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"Новичок-2014. Winter"

Greetings to all fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, future participants, and supporters of the traditional "Новичок" tournament. I hope the new season will once again delight us with great games and new discovery players.

This is our traditional, and also anniversary - tenth tournament for Новичок.
We do not have a precise and strict definition of who a "Новичок" is. This tournament is for those
- who only recently realized that you can play the favorite old game Heroes over the internet,
- who only recently found out that they are not the only one who can easily beat computers and that it's not so simple with a real person,
- who recently started playing with more than one or two heroes and building chains...

We do not invite fathers and grandfathers, we don't want to see clones, and would a medal obtained in such a dubious way even have value for a strong player?

The main goal of the tournament is to get to know each other and gain experience in communication and gameplay.


Winners of past tournaments:
"Новичок-2013. Summer" - The_
"Новичок-2013. Winter" - высокий
"Новичок-2012. Summer" - twaryna
"Новичок-2012. Winter" - 7z
"Новичок-2011. Summer" - Sky Pioneer
"Новичок-2011. Winter" - Sevensan
"Новичок-2010. Summer" - тенью бездомной
"Новичок-2010. Winter" - Сатир
"Новичок-2009. Summer" - Erdem

Participant Requirements.

1. A player registered on our forum or another gaming resource for no more than a year is considered a Новичок.
2. Players who have longer playing experience but wish to play in the tournament will be considered on an individual basis.
3. Already sufficiently strong players who have shown good results in any tournament are not allowed to participate.
4. A tournament participant must have at least one game in the seasonal rating according to HeroesWorld rules (you can play after registering). This is necessary to ensure that you are technically able to play online and have an understanding of World's rules. In separate cases, this criterion may be waived (if the player is known on other gaming resources and plays successfully there).
5. Players wishing to participate in the tournament agree to provide any additional information requested by the tournament judges.
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse registration to anyone if they believe there are valid reasons, without a public explanation of those reasons.

Applications should be left in this thread. In the application, specify:

1. ICQ number for contact;
2. convenient time for playing;
3. when the first online game was played;
4. if the participant came from another gaming resource, they must write where from and their nickname on that resource.


Organizational Issues.

1. Leads - The_ (IСQ 241568808), Lim4 (ICQ 451224720, creating and updating tables, tracking tournament results), Grizvald (ICQ 592025309, compiling the participant list and selecting players for participation in the tournament), Judges - Pit for LM (ICQ 471401475).
2. The tournament is held according to the Rules of organization, conduct and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. For each game played, participants must provide a detailed report and detailed confirmation in this thread. Only in this case will the game be counted.
4. Technical results are assigned for games not played within the established timeframe.
5. All tournament games go into the seasonal rating. The list of reports will be passed to the Rating lead. Do NOT duplicate reports in the seasonal rating.
All tournament reports must be written using the automatic report writing system.
6. Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon first request by the tournament leads, judges, or any member of the AC.
7. Disputable moments, if any arise, should be discussed off-forum. For a resolution, you must contact the tournament lead or judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The same judicial decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arose is not regulated by the rules, the judges are guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.
8. Based on the results of the tournament, the winner will be awarded a "Winner of the Новичок Tournament" medal under their avatar

Regulations.

Stage 1. Group Stage.
All games in the group are played on template 2sm4d(3).
Each player in the group plays one game against all others. 1 point is awarded for a win, 0.5 to both for a draw, and 0 for a loss.

One week is given per game. Games can be played in any order.
If a player has not played the required number of games by the end of the current round, they must explain the reasons on the forum or by contacting the tournament leads personally. "Disappeared" participants will be disqualified and replaced by players from the reserve list.

Two players who scored the most points advance from the group to the playoffs. In case of equal points, places are distributed according to additional indicators (in order of priority):
1. Berger Coefficient (calculated only based on results shown in the group).
2. Head-to-head match.
3. Points earned in a game "weigh" more than technical wins.
4. Points earned in a game against the LM team.
5. If it is impossible to determine who advances to the playoffs based on the previous indicators, players will be offered a tie-break game scheme. At this moment, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be thought out according to the situation that develops in the groups by the end of the stage.
In this case, the seasonal (permanent) rating will play a major role.

Stage 2. Team Tournament "New Players" vs "Legends and Myths". The Новичок team, consisting of players who scored at least 2 points in the group stage, plays against the team of the best HW players.

Stage 3. Playoffs - 16 participants.
Matches are best-of-3 (first to 2 wins). Time limit per round is 2 weeks.
The Grand Final is first to 3 wins, starting with a score of 1-0 in favor of the upper bracket winner; i.e., the upper bracket winner needs to win 2 times, and the lower bracket winner - 3 times.

Dates.

Registration: December 28, 2013 - January 18, 2014.
Approval of participant list: January 18-22, 2014.
Group stage draw and start of the tournament: January 24, 2014.

Rules.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement HW_rulez (For correct operation, the patch must be installed for both players), and by mutual agreement WT.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the rules of online games in Heroes 3.
3. Restarts total 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
4. In the final part of the tournament, the template is chosen by a draw from a list of 5 templates: 2sm4d3, jebus Cross, Panic, 8mm6a, mini nostalgia.

All players on the tournament participant list must do the following:
1. Check if your ICQ number is entered in your profile; add it there if it is not.
If it is in your profile, a small green daisy - the ICQ symbol - is visible under the avatar. If not, you must follow the algorithm.
2. Leave an application in this thread. To do this, click the Register for tournament button located at the beginning of this thread.
3. To create a report, you will need to click the New report button located at the top of each page of the thread and fill in all necessary fields according to the template. After that, write your detailed comments on the game.
4. To confirm the report, the second player must find the game report, click the Confirm report button, and also write a detailed report.
5. It is considered good tone to thank the opponent for the game.
In reply to Roger-ua
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Roger-ua
I have no idea what Grizzwald would do if a second 2 were rolled.
Why can't a new draw be made if a 2 is rolled?
What difference does it make if it's 33% or 50%, if 1 and 3 have equal chances in any case?
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Dirty_Player
Why can't we redraw the lots if a 2 is rolled?
What difference does it make if it's 33% or 50%, if players 1 and 3 have the same chances in any case?

In the case of rolling a second 2, nothing was said before the draw,
that is, it was not specified whether to repeat the entire draw or only the second player's draw,
therefore, there are possible scenarios that are not correct.

Yes, the probabilities are equal, and there are no obvious distortions, so I am not protesting the result of the draw,
but the probabilities have changed, and this could have affected the result,

therefore, if I wanted to, I could challenge the result of the draw.

I suggest that in the future, we simply pay more attention to the procedure for the draw

and use the system that I described in the previous post.
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It is precisely because of people like these, who create controversial situations out of nothing, that things become difficult for the organizers.
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Roger-ua
The lottery was simply conducted incorrectly. After the first number, 2, was drawn, it was not excluded from the second lottery. The probability of drawing the numbers 1 and 3 became 33%, while if the number 2 had been excluded, their probabilities would have been 50%.
Generating 1, 2, or 3 with equal probability, and if 2 is drawn, generating again until 1 or 3 is drawn, is the same as generating 1 and 3 with equal probability (in this case, 1/2, because the probability of other outcomes is zero).
By the way, a complete regeneration in the case of drawing two identical numbers until two different numbers are drawn is also correct.
In reply to The_
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Please register me for the tournament. I've been on the forum for quite some time, but I've only played Heroes of Might and Magic V. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to Heroes of Might and Magic III.
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Stiletto
Please sign me up for the tournament. I've been on the forum for a while now, but I've only played Heroes V. In Heroes III, I'm slightly less than completely a noob)
It's too late for this tournament. The next Новичок will be closer to summer/in summer) There is time to play the season)
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Once again, I am amazed at how simple and enjoyable it is to play Necropolis on Jebus Cross. On the very first day, scouting revealed 3 Griffin Conservatories and an external dwelling of horses, which could not but please, even despite the spread of 4 heroes. After idling for a couple of days, I started collecting the Griffin Conservatories, and along the way, level 1 and level 2 dwellings conveniently appeared. Then it got even better — the horses found another Griffin Conservatory (this time the maximum one) and a Cloak +2 to speed. I gather them on day 117 and defeat Galthran on the way home. I decided not to rush with the exit, taking another Griffin Conservatory and a Shield +3 Attack/Defense with the horses, while with Gosh I clear a Pandora's Box near ГО. In the Pandora's Box, of course, there are upgraded Vampires. On day 122, I kill the Rust Dragons and enter the center. The rest of the week is spent clearing the treasure zone, which the opponent seems in no hurry to enter. As a result, by day 131, Galthran has stats around 30, full control, and an Elixir assembled as well. I decide not to drag it out and head to the opponent, but for my overconfidence, I almost had to pay dearly — as soon as I arrive at the enemy's respawn, Kalt runs out and casts Armageddon for 1000. A Death Wave saves the day, killing him along with all his artifacts. Surrender follows.
Thanks for the game!
Battle Report Accepted
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Галтран / Galthran Start Hero Галтран / Galthran
Галтран / Galthran Main Hero Галтран / Galthran
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Random Start Hero Random
Кальт / Kalt Main Hero Кальт / Kalt
Map Template
Jebus Cross
Game Length
132 days
Game Date
3/5/2014
Reported
3/5/2014 11:17 PM
Rating Impact Archived
identity 1598 1614 +16 ↑
Cincinnat 1635 1619 -16 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/7/2014 7:42 AM

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I assembled an Elixir, Haven, Cursed Armor, and a level 20 Craig with 30/30 stats in the front row on a high ground.
Thank you for the game!
Battle Report Accepted
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Галтран / Galthran Start Hero Галтран / Galthran
Галтран / Galthran Main Hero Галтран / Galthran
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Мефала / Mephala Start Hero Мефала / Mephala
Мефала / Mephala Main Hero Мефала / Mephala
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
221 days
Game Date
3/6/2014
Reported
3/6/2014 10:34 AM
Rating Impact Archived
Graf_Bananov 1616 1629 +13 ↑
Mizrael 1569 1556 -13 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/7/2014 3:40 AM

In reply to The_
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Played without any specific strategy. Lost and left the game.
Battle Report Accepted
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Сольмир / Solmyr Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Шива / Shiva Main Hero Шива / Shiva
Поражение / Lose Поражение / Lose
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Start Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
116 days
Game Date
3/6/2014
Reported
3/6/2014 8:47 PM
Rating Impact Archived
shameonyou 1576 1558 -18 ↓
Defiant 1495 1513 +18 ↑
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/7/2014 12:06 AM

In reply to Roger-ua
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122, exit with 3600 moves. 16 Scorpius, 16 Viv, 1 Angel. The next day, I push the opponent out of his Garrison, and he surrenders.
Battle Report Accepted
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Тираксор / Tyraxor Main Hero Тираксор / Tyraxor
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Map Template
Jebus Cross
Game Length
123 days
Game Date
2/27/2014
Reported
3/6/2014 8:50 PM
Rating Impact Archived
shameonyou 1527 1542 +15 ↑
Defiant 1527 1512 -15 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/7/2014 12:06 AM

In reply to Roger-ua
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Low bow to the person who came up with the idea of playing SMAC on all random in the decisive game. Out of 7 generations, I got Citadel 4 times, Inferno 2 times, Dungeon 1 time (the only normal draw, but the opponent restarted). Then we restarted mirror-Rampart twice, then mirror-Conflux twice more.

Both ended up without restarts.
I got Inferno. With a buyout of a whole 12 Gogs and 45 Imps. Blocks everywhere. Secondary skills were just a dream — both Snowy. First guard — Gogs. Second guard — Storm Elementals. On the third path, a block of 50+ Fire Elementals. No money for respawn, not even for Demons.

I'm glad that in this game everything was decided fairly and I lost deservedly.

Thanks for the games!
Battle Report Accepted
Random Faction Random
Фиона / Fiona Start Hero Фиона / Fiona
Ябаркас / Jabarkas Main Hero Ябаркас / Jabarkas
Поражение / Lose Поражение / Lose
Крепость / Fortress Faction Крепость / Fortress
Мирланда / Mirlanda Start Hero Мирланда / Mirlanda
Гелар / Gelare Main Hero Гелар / Gelare
Map Template
2sm4d(3)
Game Length
113 days
Game Date
3/6/2014
Reported
3/6/2014 8:56 PM
Rating Impact Archived
shameonyou 1556 1540 -16 ↓
Defiant 1515 1531 +16 ↑
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/7/2014 12:07 AM

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shameonyou
I played without focus. I threw away the Naga and left.
Excellent setup, quick breakthrough to the computer's zone, by 115 I had already killed him. Stables, good starting army, 2 Griffin Conservatories in the adjacent zone, tons of money, Bears were being built in the Castle on the first turn, Craig has Air and Logs, easy exits to the center. The opponent decided not to continue.
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122 exit with 3600 moves. 16 scorpicores, 16 vivi, 1 angel. The next day, I push the opponent at his GO, followed by a surrender.
On the respawn, there are 3 Griffin Conservatories (1+2+3) and 2 external dwellings for horses. Kirr and Crag are both well-leveled, but I decided to go with Crag as my main, taking 2 chests for 10k and 15k XP. A misplay on 117 in the double Griffin Conservatory led to a loss; I miscalculated the forces, which severely hurt the tempo. I only reached the opponent's GO at 123, but the opponent had already covered it.
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shameonyou
Low bow to the person who came up with the idea of playing Crag Hack on all random in the decisive game. Out of 7 generations, I got Citadel 4 times, Inferno 2 times, and Dungeon 1 time (the only decent layout, but the opponent restarted). Then they restarted mirror-ramp twice, then mirror-Conflux twice more.

Both ended up without restarts.
I got Inferno. With a buy totaling 12 gogs and 45 imps. Blocks everywhere. Secondary heroes are a dream - both snow. First horde guard - gogs. Second horde guard - storm elementals. On the third road, a block of 50+ fire elementals. Not even enough money to respawn demons.

I am glad that in this game everything was decided fairly and I lost deservedly.

Thanks for the games!
Indeed, the RNG tried its best. It reminded me of a recent case with ColdRain, who thought something was rigged when he got 5 ramps in a row. So here we got a mirror 4 or 5 times in a row, 2 times ramp, 2 times Conflux (both times Monere appeared for Conflux).

As a result of a wild series of restarts, we played Fortress on Inferno. Lizards built, their external dwelling near the castle. No good main, decided to level Laura, one of the passes to the snow secondary was behind grand elves, so I turned around and started clearing the respawn, had money, a Dwarf Cottage, a sword +2+2. By week 1 day 1 turn 2, I had 25 greater lizards, but a surrender follows. The opponent indeed got an unplayable layout, plus the generation itself was a bit buggy, with extra roads.

Thanks for the games and sorry that we couldn't have good matches.
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shameonyou
Then they restarted mirror-Rampart 2 times, then mirror-Conflux another 2 times.
Well, that was pointless. There's no such rule. And if you quit a game on XL+U just because of some Naga loss...

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