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#5410
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Olam Havel
Will the players gather...

There should be 14 in total.
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#5411
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I would like to ask experienced players why "Mafia" games with notes haven't been held recently. Is it simply a lack of interest, or has some bug been found that everyone is exploiting?
Batman is a murderer no less than the Joker, for all the lives the Joker took that Batman could've saved by killing him.
Elizer Yudkovsky, "HP and the Methods of Rationality".
Мой ник транслитерируется по-разному, но я предпочитаю варианты Оот и Ооот.
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#5412
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Not suitable in terms of balance.

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#5413
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And to be more specific? How exactly are they not suitable?
Batman is a murderer no less than the Joker, for all the lives the Joker took that Batman could've saved by killing him.
Elizer Yudkovsky, "HP and the Methods of Rationality".
Мой ник транслитерируется по-разному, но я предпочитаю варианты Оот и Ооот.
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#5414
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I believe the town receives an excessive amount of information through notes, while the Mafia isn't actively using disinformation. This creates a bias in favor of the town.
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#5415
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Whoa, welcome back! Of course, I'll play with you in the Mafia game. Regarding the notes: they often make investigations too obvious. The only guaranteed countermeasure is statuses that are difficult to detect, but then the opposite problem arises: the investigations become too weak. There's another option: to impose strict rules and limitations on the notes, but then what's the point of them? Is it just for creating an atmosphere? Some people will write notes with irrelevant content, while others will ignore this opportunity... And the latter group is the majority. In general, considering all these points, GMs have probably just decided not to bother with notes lately. It's not that this element can't be implemented properly in principle, but it's much simpler without them. --------
I think the town receives too much information through the notes, and the Mafia isn't actively using disinformation.
Even if they do, this disinformation is usually revealed quite quickly, either on the same day or the next, at most within two days.
 

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#5416
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Ment


Even if it is used, this kind of disinformation usually disappears quite quickly, if not on the same day, then the next day or at most within two days.
Yes, and this too.
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#5417
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Okay, I understand, thank you.
Since my Mafia game has overly complex relationships between roles, I think I will introduce notes to improve combo breaking. =-)
Batman is a murderer no less than the Joker, for all the lives the Joker took that Batman could've saved by killing him.
Elizer Yudkovsky, "HP and the Methods of Rationality".
Мой ник транслитерируется по-разному, но я предпочитаю варианты Оот и Ооот.
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#5418
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But more specifically? How exactly are they not suitable?
This requires mental calculation. In my last game, they would have been unnecessary because the town was already strong. Although it's not certain that they would have ruined the balance, as there are many players, and everyone can write notes, but recently, players often believe the written information and find real notes, so the chance still remained, and they also didn't fit the atmosphere. But in any case, I believe that notes are needed in a game with more than two factions, and not just a town and one mafia, otherwise, the notes will almost certainly work in favor of the town, and not both teams.
I believe that the town receives an excessive amount of information through notes, while the mafia does not actively use disinformation. This creates a bias in favor of the town.
It wasn't like that before, and the notes helped both sides, and it was even interesting with them, but now it's not very interesting.

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#5419
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don't believe in evil
Thank you, my eyes have popped out.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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#5420
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Thank you, my eyes are tired.
Your call is very important to us, please stay on the line.
Batman is a murderer no less than the Joker, for all the lives the Joker took that Batman could've saved by killing him.
Elizer Yudkovsky, "HP and the Methods of Rationality".
Мой ник транслитерируется по-разному, но я предпочитаю варианты Оот и Ооот.
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#5421
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Oh well, I messed up the file where I wrote the setting, and I spent a ton of time on it.
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#5422
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Well, you'll have to put your memory to the test! It's easier to recall a set than to write one from scratch right now.
 

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#5423
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The setting itself might be easy to recall, but the description of the anti-fan needs to be rewritten. Let's see if I can overcome my reluctance to rework it, or if I'll create a completely different one, simpler and for a smaller number of players.
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#5424
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Hey guys, I'm writing a mafia-themed story. I suspect I'll only finish it in the summer. But I'm putting a lot of effort and emotional energy into it. To be honest, what's coming out might contain harsh scenes + profanity. Although there are some positives: I plan to run it as a role-playing game and add a lot of extra features and puzzles. I have a question: will I be allowed to post all sorts of trash and profanity here, or should I start looking for another place right away?

жизни выцветшие карточки хлам
лиц расквашенные лампочки хлам
между жидких начинаний
сам в крови воспоминаний
поваляться захотел


Молодое зло телами в масле
Застилает взор багровый зной
Если хочешь ты чтоб я был счастлив
Наизнанку вывернись со мной
Бахромою плоть дурная драма
До рассвета нервы в решето
Валидола вмажь по вене мама
За моё счастливое ничто