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Yes, I realized that too; the opponent didn't write anything, and neither did I. In the end, I was the one who was at fault.
As a judge, I have encountered similar situations many times, so I have developed the following approach: if one opponent writes something and the other doesn't, then the presumption of guilt applies to the second. If neither of them writes anything, then it's up to chance to decide.

Therefore, experienced players usually write about their difficulties themselves – in a private message or on the forum.
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28.01.2014 Kilgor (Blue, Rampart, Kiry, Kiry/Tirax) def Tovariщ (Red, Conflux, Ignissa, Clavius) mininosta 131

After OP 1 rest and we started playing. My comps (Castle, Dungeon, Inferno) his (Necro, Fortress, Tower)

111 Thick stacks of centaurs arrived, freed a prison, and there's a native hero! But nobody has elves, a spread of 6 heroes, I see the Castle comp's area, a stable nearby, 2 Griffin Conservatories. Of course we play.
112 I take over the Inferno comp and the Castle comp. I start building up to Archangels.
113-114 I scout respawns, nowhere to really level, the army has melted away on shooter blocks and comps with shooters. I descend into the underground of the Dungeon, break through a couple of shooter blocks, chase off the comp's horse, his shooters finished off my elves. Remaining: 20 capped centaurs, 6 griffins, and 1 elf. I build a Citadel.
115 The last comp is killing itself on me, I gather everything because I need Angels.
116 I build Angels, buy them back, and the army rides to Tirax on the other end of the world! I check the Griffin Conservatory, it's max-level, and out of the main damage stacks by 121 I'll only have 2 Angels. Luckily Tirax has 8 attack and expert Offense.
117 I fight into Inferno, and there are as many as 5 Griffin Conservatories lit up.
121 I check — first set of three, second set of three, third is max-level — oh god, how do I take them?
122-123 I found a level-1 Griffin Conservatory, with three Angels already I managed the set of three and it took off.
124 I have 15 Angels, I dive into a set of three Dragon Utopias almost without any feeding. They give me magic — Air Book and Breastplate +12 SP, although I had to lose 3 Angels.
125-126 I build Archangels, clear the treasure zone, the army is transferred to the other end of the map to the max-level Griffin Conservatory + I dream of Archangels.
127 14 Archangels + 3 Angels + 12 Swans + 30 Archmagi + a chain of 900. All this arrives at the OP and pushes the main.
131 A one-sided fight.

Thanks for the game!

P.S. Forgot to mention, from the first week Kiryusha was running around with Boots and Gauntlets.
P.P.S. One of the sweetest distributions I've ever encountered, if you play a bit more collectedly and not in euphoria, then by day 12 you can have 20 Archangels!!
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P.S. A note regarding who wrote what. 6лм10а was chosen by the opponent, not me. There was still a mini-nosta left, but it can usually be played much faster.
Note regarding who wrote what:
R55Max (19:38:47 21/01/2014)
1 cmka

Nitro (19:39:17 21/01/2014)
8mm6a

R55Max (19:39:56 21/01/2014)
3 skirmish

Nitro (19:40:25 21/01/2014)
Spider

R55Max (19:40:29 21/01/2014)
5 Jebus Cross

Nitro (19:41:11 21/01/2014)
Diamond

R55Max (19:41:42 21/01/2014)
7 balance

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didn't pick mini-nosta because I don't like playing against blue on it.
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Yes, I realized that too; the opponent didn't write anything, and neither did I. In the end, I was the one who was at fault. Moreover, the opponent deliberately didn't want to play during the agreed-upon time after our discussion, and instead decided to win easily.

I wrote to you on the 5th (are you playing in the M200 tournament?)
Then on the 9th, I received a response:
alex-omsk92 (15:31:59 9/01/2014)
I think I'll be able to play after January 13th.


Then on the 13th, I received a response:

alex-omsk92 (16:51:38 13/01/2014)
Hi, it's still unclear, but definitely on the weekend.


Then on the 17th (notice, you didn't write anything).
And when you suddenly became available without prior arrangement (Friday evening), I simply wasn't at home.
We had a preliminary agreement for the weekend; on Saturday, I waited for you until 5 PM Moscow time, then I had other things to do. You arrived later, so we missed each other. We agreed on Sunday at 12 PM Moscow time, and you said "maybe" (but didn't specify the exact time). I waited for you until 2 PM Moscow time, then I wrote to The and left because I didn't want to wait for you until the evening again.
We set a date for Saturday (well, Saturday is Saturday, although if we had agreed in advance, we could have played on any other day until the 22nd), but on Saturday, the time didn't suit you, and you didn't write anything again, so you can only blame yourself.
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28.01.2014 Kilgor(Blue,Rampart,Kir,Kir/Tirax) def Tovariщ(Red,Confluence,Ignessa,Claudius) mininosta 131

From Opa 1 respawn and the game began. My comps (Castle, dungeon, inferno), his (Necro, swamp, citadel)

111 Thick stacks of kents arrived, I took back the prison, and my own hero was there! But no one has elves, a gap of 6 heroes, I see the comp's castle, stable nearby, 2 cons. Of course we play.
112 I take the comp's inferno and castle. I start building up to archons.
113-114 I'm camping resps, nowhere much to level up, army melted on ranged blocks and comps with ranged units. I go down to the underground dungeon, break through a couple of ranged blocks, drive away a comp loser who cut my elves with ranged attacks. Left with 20 kents caps, 6 griffins, and 1 elf. I set up the citadel.
115 The last comp kills itself on me, everything gathers because angels are needed.
116 I get the angels, buy them out, and the army travels to Tirax at the other end of the world! I check the con, it's max, and by 121 there will only be 2 angels in striking stacks. Luckily Tirax has 8 attack and exp offense.
117, fighting in Inferno, as many as 5 cons were spotted there.
121 Checking - first triple, second triple, third maxi, damn it, how do I take them?
122-123 Found a con one, already with three angels I managed the triple and it took off.
124 I have 15 angels, I go into Dragon Utopia triple almost without an eater. They give magic, air book, and chest + 12sp, though I had to give up 3 angels.
125-126 I set up archons, clear the treasure zone, army is transferred to the other end of the map to a max con + I'm dreaming of archons.
127 14 archons + 3 angels + 12 ducks + 30 archmages + chain on 900. All this arrives at Opa and takes back the main.
131 FB one-sided.

Thanks for the game!

P.S. Forgot to mention, from the first week Kiryusha was running with boots and gloves.
P.P.S. One of the sweetest distributions I've encountered; if you play a bit more composed instead of in euphoria, then at 12x you could have 20 archons!!

Confirmed. At 127 I take Dragon Utopia 3, unfortunately they gave me not what was needed: 2 pairs of boots (red and levitation) and КО. Dragon Utopia on КЗ and buffs, or КЗ+teapot would have forced Kiry to give up the artifacts, but alas.

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Addition regarding who scribbled what:
R55Max (19:38:47 21/01/2014)
1 smka

Nitro (19:39:17 21/01/2014)
8mm6a

R55Max (19:39:56 21/01/2014)
3 skirmish

Nitro (19:40:25 21/01/2014)
Spider

R55Max (19:40:29 21/01/2014)
5 Jebus Cross

Nitro (19:41:11 21/01/2014)
Diamond

R55Max (19:41:42 21/01/2014)
7 balance

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didn't pick mini-nosta because I don't like playing against blue on it.
Well, I specifically went for mini-nosta as blue, it's a normal occurrence, it was more advantageous for me to play either a more complex template against a not-so-recently registered player, or mini-nosta as blue. Obviously, first thing I scribble smka, which all newbies play, an unpredictable 200% skirmish first thing, then based on your scribble. I scribbled Jebus Cross because everyone plays it, and I myself haven't played it that often lately. Didn't think you'd pick 6lm10a, usually it gets scribbled. You also scribbled templates that aren't as common in games (Diamond, Spider, which, for example, I wouldn't have crossed out). At that point, only balance was left to scribble, which again is often imbalance. You picked LM, it's very simple. In the end, it was all heading toward my victory until I majorly messed up. So my scribble was pretty high-quality on my part and basically good on yours. But since you picked LM, the fact that I scribbled it isn't quite accurate either, because you chose it.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Well, I specifically went for the mini-nostu with blue, which is a normal occurrence. It was more advantageous for me to play either a more complex build against a relatively new player or the mini-nostu with blue. Of course, I immediately chose the SMK (Stronghold, Magic, Knight) build, which all beginners play, and the unpredictable 200% skirmish build first. Then, based on your choice, Jeb chose his build because everyone plays it, but he hasn't played it very often lately. I didn't think you would choose 6LM10A; it's usually chosen. You also chose less common builds in games (Diamond, Spider, which I, for example, wouldn't have chosen). All that was left was to choose Balance, which is often imbalanced. You chose LM (Lizardman), and everything is very simple. In the end, everything was going towards my victory until I made a terrible mistake. So, my choice was quite good, and yours was also decent. But you chose LM, so the fact that I chose it isn't entirely accurate because you were the one who picked it.

The choice was logical, but you eliminated the fast builds yourself, so Nitro is definitely not to blame for the prolonged game.
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He might not be the smartest, but he stopped using slow templates himself, so Nitro definitely isn't to blame for the game dragging on.
So what if he played HL+U? Is that considered a bad move? I couldn't have known that 6LM would be chosen, and Mini is definitely played faster than LM in 75% of cases.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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So what if HL+U was played? Is it illogical? I couldn't have known that 6LM would be chosen, and Mini is definitely played faster than LM in 75% of cases.
It seems strange to seriously expect Red to choose Nostu. When playing Blue, it's reasonable to keep it, but it shouldn't be relied upon.
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Well, it's kind of strange to seriously expect Red to pick Nosta. When banning as Blue, it's reasonable to leave it, but you shouldn't count on it.
I don't quite understand why this ban is even being discussed? IMHO it's irrelevant. Everyone bans however they want.
SMKa, balance and skirm — I would definitely ban, then I banned Jebus Cross, I thought the opponent would ban LM as well, but he didn't ban it, and instead removed Diamond. After that, I had no choice for myself. For my preferences and the way the ban itself was conducted, everything was clear as day.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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I wrote to you on the 5th (you were playing M200 tournament, okay), then I received a reply on the 9th.
alex-omsk92 (15:31:59 9/01/2014)
I think I'll be able to after January 13th.


Then, on the 13th, I received a reply.

alex-omsk92 (16:51:38 13/01/2014)
Hi, it's still unclear, definitely not on the weekend.


Then, on the 17th (notice, you didn't write at all).
And when you suddenly became available without prior arrangement (Friday evening), I just wasn't home.
We had a preliminary agreement for the weekend, Saturday. I was waiting for you until 5 PM Moscow time, then I had other things to do. You arrived later, okay, we missed each other. We agreed on Sunday at 12 PM Moscow time, and you said "maybe" (but didn't specify the exact time). I waited for you until 2 PM Moscow time, then I wrote to The and left because I didn't want to wait for you until evening again.
We agreed on Saturday (well, Saturday is Saturday, although if we had agreed in advance, we could have played on any other day until the 22nd), but Saturday didn't suit you, and you didn't write, so you can only blame yourself.

Yes, yes, and notice that you also didn't write anything until the 17th.
You didn't specify any particular time for the weekend in advance, so I'm not a fortune teller to know that you have something to do after 5 PM Moscow time.
On Sunday, I said "maybe," and that didn't bother you, and you didn't specify the exact time until when you could play.

After the "heated" conversation on Sunday, I no longer want to communicate with you. I requested a reschedule, and I told The that I couldn't play. But you somehow know about it, right? However, he decided that we should start at 12, and by 3 PM it would be too late. In principle, it's not explicitly stated in the rules, but it's logical.
Before the reschedule, I wrote to you, but you said that you would only play in a scheduled game.
And I already congratulated you on the victory.
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28.01.14
Redwhait_HP (blue, Castle, Vala, Luna) def Browser (red, Stronghold, Crag Hack) diamond 141
The opponent took 1 restart and then we started playing.
Vala with 3 stacks and the noob also had 6 stacks, there are stables in 2 directions, an easy restart, but Luna arrived and I decided to look around.
On day 2, scouting, Luna breaks a mini Dwarf Cottage with a Ghost Steward without magic. I spread out more.
After that, Luna, having learned expert Fire, breaks various guards on her own, a couple of Dragon Utopias are revealed, a cape +2 speed for 100+ Gargoyles, and a couple of tasty Pandora's Boxes.
On 114, a fail happens (I can't live without it :) ), I accidentally take a Ballista into a battle with Harpies, I have a stack of Harpies from a Dungeon village, a wall blocks them, and 5 stacks die, while 2 stacks end up next to the ballista and absolutely refuse to fly over the wall :( had to waste extra mana and retreat...
On 116, I break 10 horses from a Pandora's Box giving 25 Demons.
On 117, I boldly break the Gargoyles for the cape.
I built horses in the fort with difficulty because of a money crisis.
By the second week, plans to visit the Fire book for 50+ cows and look for Inferno/Conflux.
At the start of week 2, Luna was given Water and in a hut I took Log; a Dungeon village was very well placed, there was a Whirlpool set up there.
I went towards the university for 5-9 bears but realized it was only level 9, went looking for a way to earn it, found 3 spell power for 3k gold and also in a war tomb they provided an artifact for +3 spell power.
Near the Fire book, the passage to the red player was burned off, and straight to the capital, so a plan immediately ripens to rush him.
On 123, I take the Fire book without any problems with 13 spell power and immediately break into the Barbarian's respawn, the capital is almost undefended, which we easily took advantage of.
There, 6 Hastes and Goblins were still unbought, meaning things weren't that great with money over there.
Then a long period of fattening up begins. The noob luckily captured Inferno, built Efreeti there, took a couple of Pandora's Boxes for morale +4 Attack, Defense, Armor. From Mages, I also found a Fire Power booster. Most importantly, I found the Air spell book, it became a bit easier, but without Town Portal it's still tough.
On 127, I built Angels, but only in the fort.
At the start of week 3, I visited a couple of libraries, took a couple of Pandora's Boxes for 25 Medusas and the same number of greater Eyes. And on 134, by summoning Air elementals, I break the first Dragon Utopia.
It immediately drops Papal Wings and a Chalice.
The next Dragon Utopia on 135 is Crystalline, but not far from it I found Boots of Speed and +5 All Stats.
136 Pandora's Box for 10 Black Horses + a Crystalline Dragon Utopia.
137 Pandora's Box for 5 Devils behind 3 Faerie Dragons. I take a couple of villages from the red player and reveal Crag Hack's location. He has not very strong stats: 17-11-7-7 against Luna's 25-24-29-23. He has very few troops, a couple of Angels and up to 20 Nagas.
On 141, Crag Hack exposes himself within reach range in one of the castles.
I set up and bring in 2 Archangels, then attack. A couple of Firebirds and a Bear appeared there too. I immediately cast Chain Lightning, which wiped out the Nagas, birds, and Angels. I finish off the remnants with Archangels and Angels.
Thanks for the game.
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27.01.2014 Ominous1 (Red, Castle, Caitlyn, Pasys) def Mizrael (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 6lm10a 214

We started, out of the decent heroes only Pasys, put him as main. Went along the road, broke through several mini-blocks, took a crypt, an external dwelling of griffins, a refuge (4 Swordsmen), broke through to the transition zone-rocks. On day 117 reached the turquoise Castle, I attack, there's a hero with 30 mana, archery, and full tier 1-4 meat. I get hit hard, only 1 champion and 20 spears survive; but hey, double meat on day 121. In the transition zone, I scout a Griffin Conservatory, a Dragon Fly Hive, and a Dragon Utopia; it spawned a bunch of skeletons and carts - all with junk. On day 121 stables, I recall home, decided to clear money-generating buildings and gather resources for Angels. Gremlin dwellings, Medusa dwellings, almost all low-level ones, horses are built in the citadel in both castles. On day 127 I'm at the Griffin Conservatory, on day 131 with a delivery I take it - maximum. Meanwhile, the loser finds 2 more Dragon Utopias in the treasure zone from a refuge. On the 3rd, I went with my main into another treasure zone, took a library, there I find another Dragon Utopia and a Dragon Fly Hive, on day 135 I take them, they give a Chalice of Life. On day 136 +Dragon Utopia, on day 137 +Dragon Utopia. On day 141 +Dragon Utopia; a Shakti appears in the revealed treasure zone; on day 142 I upgrade Archers, on day 143 I chase away the loser with his army and artifacts, and kill the miner on the charge, getting Boots of Speed from him. By day 211 I clear this treasure zone, +5 Dragon Utopias, Dragon Fly Hives, a library. On day 212 I take the main Dungeon, the Damacon buys himself off. With visions I spot where the opponent is building up and I go kill, on day 214 minus the loser with artifacts and minus the Damacon with artifacts.
Thanks for the game.
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29.01.14
Redwhait_HP (red, conflux, cult, moon) def Browser (blue, necropolis, clavius, warlock) mini-nostalgia 115

Besides the moon, my second hero was weak, and I had no money.
I took a Rampart and Dungeon computer, but my opponent didn't like it and refused the auto-pick.
Thanks for the games.
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01/29/14
Redwhait_HP (red, conflux, cult, moon) def Browser (blue, necropolis, clavius, warlock) mini-nostalgia 115

Besides the Moon, my second hero was in a bad situation, and I was completely broke.
I took Rampart and Dungeon computers, but the opponent didn't go for it and refused the auto-pick.
Thanks for the games.
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Regarding the first game - Moon is too overpowered - in the mid-game, she rushed in with 50-99 cows on the main castle with 12 spells and took it - it's just ridiculous (it just worked out well there - my setup wasn't that great, but it was very promising - there was a Hat 5 level behind the outposts, KO, KV, and KZ, everything was being taken quietly, but on turn 123, Moon rushes in - besides Moon, no one else would have been able to get through and takes KV and KO (well, and then I just ran around trying to find something - in the end, I took KZ (for 120 fanatics on the grass) and the Hat - but unfortunately, it was already too late + I didn't have enough resources (and in the second game - I should have just postponed it and not played today - thanks for the games.
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