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It seems Russia only trades with Ukraine and no one else, which is why the gas prices for us are the highest. All that's left is to assign the fleet to permanent service and declare that "we cannot be defeated."

You're tiring me out; I'm handing you over to Agent Cobra.

Gas prices are a matter of politics. You should look into what agreements Tymoshenko made.


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The price of gas is a matter of politics. You should look into what agreements Tymoshenko made.
Politics? Seriously? I thought she lost in a card game. Pff.

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The main thing is to include more of these symbols ")" in the post; they give it more confidence.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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by the way, here's something about a naked drug addict or whoever http://advocat-cons.info/index.php?newsid=20524#.UuI6ZRDHmUk Naked games with fire and water: Berkut saved Gavrilyak from self-immolation, and he is being attacked from both the front and the rear!


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Do you realize that we are Slavic nations, and this means that Ukraine is closer to Russia than to anyone else (not to the USA, not to France!).
I have always perceived Ukrainians as Russians, just living in their own country. Who is going to unite with whom? No one is planning to unite anyone!
I am from Belarus, and I look at this situation from a slightly different perspective; after all, our relations with Ukraine are different compared to Russia. I strongly disagree with the statement that Belarusians are just Russians living in another country. Again, no one is talking about a hostile attitude towards neighbors – quite the contrary, our countries have much in common, and I personally have a good attitude towards Russians and Ukrainians, but why specifically unite territorially? It smells of great-power ambitions disguised with vanilla phrases about Slavic peoples. In addition, this will contribute to the erosion of socio-cultural boundaries, which in Belarus are already in a rather precarious state.
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I was leading to the point that, in relation to Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine, the term "brotherly nations" can be applied, but not in relation to Ukraine, the USA, Ukraine, France, or Ukraine, Poland. This is what we should be basing our understanding on. The fact that Russia has lowered gas prices and provided loans, etc., is a policy aimed at the Ukrainian government, which they are trying to pressure and sway to their side because Russia doesn't need another "PRO" (missiles) on its border :) (like Georgia).

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Vatya, you don't even know what "giving up" means.
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Furthermore, it's very interesting who gave Satyr and others the right to express their opinion as the opinion of ALL of Ukraine? Please, only sign for yourself and for your circle of friends. If 100% of them agree with you, that doesn't mean it's 100% of Ukraine.
When you were asked to provide a quote, you
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Today alone, this topic has gained more than 100 posts, sorry, but there are already more than 1000 posts of political bickering here, and I don't want to dig through them to find links for you.
gave up.
And you don't know that in a totalitarian regime (which you like), people are controlled and managed a lot.
I explained everything as if to a child; this is too unequal a dialogue :smile21:.

Kober, you have unsatisfied imperial ambitions :) You just want to grab territory and population. Buy yourself Civilization (a game) and play it. There, you can grab a lot! You'll definitely like it. It should also help you to relax a bit :)
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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The article describes 3 possible scenarios. If we disregard the words that some people find unpleasant about the reunification of brotherly nations (although who, besides nationalists and Bandera supporters, could find this unpleasant?!), and consider the bare facts, then in my opinion, everything described there is quite realistic.
To be honest, I'm already quite tired of all this talk about brotherly nations that is constantly written here. I understand that many people were born and raised in the Soviet Union, when this was relevant, but I grew up in an independent and sovereign Ukraine, and I don't quite understand why the inhabitants of another country (where I have never even been) should suddenly be considered a brotherly nation. And I also don't understand, since when is it bad to be a nationalist and a patriot? For some reason, you cherish your own nationalists, but you immediately label ours as corrupt fascists and chauvinists. And you won't understand the objection to that article because you are not Ukrainian; for a Russian, it is quite adequate. P.S. Are Bandera supporters residents of Bender? At least don't make a fool of yourselves.

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Against, against, against... For the hundredth time, I ask, against is clear, but what about for? Here, all the "against" have come true, so what's next? Personally, I see that next, there will be even more "against".
Are you interested in the political leader that I personally support? I will support the one who is the first to decide to do something, and not just talk. And yes, I believe that after events like the current ones, the new government will have a clear example before its eyes of why it is impossible to become arrogant and behave as rudely as the "family" does now.

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Wick, your post was deleted, but I read it. There were again many paragraphs and very little specifics; I'm talking about Foma, and you're talking about Yerema. I'm not particularly interested in your personal opinion and perception; it's your personal business, and I'm not going to argue with it or prove anything. But you constantly throw out peremptory and uncompromising phrases, as if you are the ultimate truth. You blurted out some nonsense about Ukrainians, attached meaningless polls, and disappeared. And when I asked you the question again, you started to engage in demagoguery, and it turned out that it was just your personal perception, and in general, "space ships are sailing the expanses of the galaxy."
And regarding Tyagnibok and the Maidan - yes, that's how it was.

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darkello

"hand on face"
Do you know that we are Slavic nations, and this means that Ukraine is closer to Russia than to anyone else (not to the USA, not to France!).
I have always perceived Ukrainians as Russians, just living in their own country. Who should be united? No one is going to unite anyone!
Keep perceiving them that way, but please don't try to prove to these people that they are Russian if they don't consider themselves to be. Talk to Dzhavdet, you will find a common language.
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Весна 2014.
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It’s hotter here than on Grushevsky Street. :smile17:
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It's pointless to ask :) There's no point in asking those Ukrainians who are proud of the fact that they are supposedly "independent," and in general, proud of being Ukrainian.

Someone here wrote that the murders are on the conscience of the authorities, but I find it hard to believe. However, given their stupidity and the habits they picked up from their previous lives (it's hard to imagine that they would come up with the idea of introducing such a package of laws when the Maidan hadn't calmed down yet), such a scenario is possible. But still, I find it hard to believe – it simply wouldn't benefit them. Here's a good article on this topic: http://ubop.net.ua/stati/s-kakogo-konca-razbivat-yaico.html?fb_action_ids=249306935250385&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B1395809837341202%5D&action_type_map=%5B
The murders are on the conscience of the authorities because they have been clinging to their positions with all their might for the past two months, because they have become so attached to the trough that they can no longer live without it. A normal government would resign after such events. But our thugs will never do that, so people are resorting to more radical actions.
As for your first paragraph, I'm simply speechless; it even made me feel disgusted.
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Весна 2014.
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To be honest, I'm already quite tired of all this talk about "brotherly nations" that's constantly being written about here. I understand that many people were born and raised in the Soviet Union, when it was relevant, but I grew up in an independent and sovereign Ukraine, and I don't quite understand why the inhabitants of another country (where I haven't even been once) should suddenly be considered a "brotherly nation" to me. And I also don't understand, since when is it bad to be a nationalist and a patriot? For some reason, you cherish and pamper your own nationalists, but you immediately label ours as corrupt fascists and chauvinists. And you won't understand the rejection of that article because you're not Ukrainian; for a Russian, it's quite adequate. P.S. Are "Banderovites" the inhabitants of Bender? At least don't embarrass yourselves.

The question is not addressed to me. Ask your parents. Thank you. I'm leaving the discussion. I'm fed up. There's no point.


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This is not the right place to ask. Ask your parents. Thank you. I'm leaving this discussion. I'm fed up. It's pointless.
:smile52: I'm fed up. These damn Little Russian nationalists don't want to acknowledge that they are part of the great Russian people. How dare they?! They are definitely paid by the USA. And they are also stupid.
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[U]Wick, your post was deleted, but I read it.
Hmm... it really was deleted... was there any profanity in it? It seemed like a calm and reasoned discussion. Well, maybe some kind of swear word slipped in... I don't know, anyway :)
There were a lot of paragraphs again and very little specifics; I'm talking about Foma, and you're talking about Yerema.
The whole point is in this Yerema. That's what I'm trying to convey.

Foma is basically saying: "I'm Ukrainian, my neighbors don't like me because I'm Ukrainian, and if I give in to them in any way, they will pressure and oppress me because I'm Ukrainian."

And Yerema says that your neighbors to the east don't divide people based on their national identity, but based on their cultural pattern. And this pattern is Russian for you, so interaction with you is built as with a Russian. There are such terms as "Russian Jew," "Russian Georgian," "Russian Estonian," etc., and "Russian Ukrainian," although it is rarely used, means approximately the same thing.

In my opinion, the Belarusian approach is the right one for national policy: yes, there is a Belarusian language, Belarusian culture, and other national attributes, but they do not conflict with the Russian cultural pattern, so there is no national problem there. Just as there are no attempts at territorial absorption, seizing businesses, and everything else that Ukrainians are frightened with.
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Does the lawyer support a change of power, while the others are against Ukraine joining the EU or NATO?
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I won't dwell too much on Wicca's constant lies; lies are present in every word. The Belarusian generating station has already been taken over by fraternal Russia, as well as some major enterprises. The main dispute regarding the "Maidan" revolves around the conflict between slaves and free people. Slaves argue that the current government is bad, and they are forced to kneel and scrub floors on Tuesdays and Thursdays. However, if they overthrow this government, the next one might add Saturdays to the schedule, which would be unbearable. Therefore, they believe it's better to remain kneeling. They also dissuade free people from revolution ("Maidan") for the same reason. Dear slaves, continue kneeling, but don't interfere with the free people who would rather die standing than live on their knees. The truth is, if the free people win, you will also be lifted from your knees, and you will forever forget about the floor scrubbing. P.S. The free people have already started the revolution ("Maidan"). If the regime still wins, they will perish, and the slaves will be forced to scrub floors even on Saturdays. It's time for the slaves to make their own choice.
Весна 2013.

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