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Posts from Nomination for "Player of the Year 2013"
It's harder to win the same XL tournament than it is against Lyubimtsev or Jebus Cross.
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and a link to HL after the group stage /topic/at/624103/ I will list the nicknames: Dima Surmai, Scorpion, Alex Ze Great, Stinger, KOBRA, Medium_Hp, Term, ZeSёva, Tvarina, GOD
Link to 5 Lyubimtsev for the stage after leaving the group, an easy lineup! /topic/at/604835/ I will list the nicknames: the same as in the HL tournament, except for Alex and plusssssssssss: Hellight, Alone, Marretti, Namwan, Tiamat, Britvochka, Homunculus, Javdet, Outlaw, SevenSun and others Well, that was indeed an easy lineup :smile13:
It's harder to win the same XL Tournaments than to win against Favorites or Jebus.
And if I say the opposite, how will you prove it? Wicc
It's not about the quantity, but the quality.
So, if we take, for example, the Favorites tournament that God won, then Preds, Cobra, Maretti, Alonne, and Javdet (who also defeated strong players) – is that not high-quality content? Is that what you mean? Wicc
And also in the prestige of the tournament.
So, what makes this tournament not prestigious for you? Wicc
The only tournament comparable in prestige is FB.
Listen, is that the same tournament that he won twice? Wicc
In the blue corner of the ring - Gomunguls, just Gomunguls.
Is that him? Wicc
The motivation of the players to win. You shouldn't compare online tournaments with CIS tournaments here.
And how is CIS better? What's the motivation? To come and play 1-2 games and, if you lose, go drink/play poker? Very cool. Or play with hangover the next day. Very motivating. Especially for those who don't drink. But in online tournaments, there's no motivation at all, right? You come, see each other in person – and then what? Do you all suddenly play 10 times better just because you came?
It's only better in one thing – you can see everyone clearly, and no one will cheat so obviously. That's what's better. But I highly doubt that God cheated in his games, or that Gomunguls or Maretti cheat. I thought you'd at least bring up mirror matches. Wicc
the rest form a more or less homogeneous mass of good online tournaments.
That's definitely facepalm-worthy.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/ За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
Only HL. Alex came in first in his group (2 out of 6 qualified). The group included Javdet, GoD, and ProtosArchon. It wasn't easy to come in first with a 100% result in such a group. Then, a tiebreaker match against GoD for a spot in the Final. Final: Dima Surmai, Stinger, Medium, Kilgore, Cobra. 10 out of 10, i.e., 100%.
I would argue that the path to victory is more challenging in one tournament than the other. Both tournaments are good. IMHO. In general, winning any tournament is already an achievement.
Only HL. Alex advanced from the group in 1st place (2 out of 6 advanced). The group included Javdet, GoD, ProtosArchon. Not so easy to advance from such a group with a 100% result. Then a playoff match against GoD for a spot in the Final. Final: Dima Surmay, Stinger, Medium, Kilgor, Cobra. 10 out of 10, i.e. 100%
Experience shows that arguing with you is pointless.
Especially when there are no arguments with which to prove anything. Except for your own opinion. Or simply ignoring inconvenient questions. Which, for example, comrade Cobra did. And now another one has backed down, following his example. Wicc
- if you can't handle an argument, you start resorting to rudeness, personal attacks, or empty chatter.
If you mean when some brat starts with personal insults, addressing me in an indignant tone, then why should I put up with that? Of course, it irritates me!
But this doesn't concern you. Wicc
This also applies to darkello. So, sorry guys :)
Don't torture yourself, just say what you think, "because these Tournaments were played on Soda" and that's it.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/ За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
Dirty_Player
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The beauty of this poll lies in the fact that everyone decides for themselves what is more important: for some, it's the Facebook page, while for others, it's the official Facebook page.
He shouldn't torture himself; he should just say what he thinks, "because these tournaments were played on Soda." That's all.
I completely agree, so the most significant victory in an online tournament should be considered a victory in "Soda NET!". Especially a victory in the final against Imba-Alex on a mirror match!!! :smile06:
I completely agree, so the most significant victory in an online tournament should be considered the victory in "Soda NET!". Especially winning the final against Imba-Alex on a mirror match!!! :smile06:
:) Stinger asserted his authority. In reality, any victory in a tournament deserves respect. But the idea that some tournaments are cool and others are garbage (especially because they're on Soda) doesn't appeal to me.
Vik disagrees. That's his right. But he shouldn't impose his opinion as the only correct one.
And yes, Stinger is awesome, no doubt :D
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/ За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
Observing your participation in discussions shows that there's no point in trying to prove anything to you – if you can't handle a debate with arguments, you start resorting to rudeness, personal attacks, or empty chatter.
He shouldn't torture himself; he should just say what he thinks: "because these Tournaments were played on SoD" and that’s it.
That's why I called FB the most prestigious online tournament... :)
Without claiming to have the ultimate truth, I will formulate my own criteria for the significance of a tournament (in random order):
1) Status and PR, the prominence of the name.
2) The composition of participants (quality first, quantity also matters, but less).
3) Game version. WoG > SoD.
4) Maps. Mirror > XL+U > everything else.
5) Location. LAN > online.
6) Prize pool.
Added after 13 minutes Accordingly, for 2013 and early 2014, my subjective hierarchy of tournament importance is:
1) CIS-2013 2) FB-7 3) XL 4) Lyubimchiki-5 5-8) Championship of Siberia + Championship of Kyiv + King of the Hill + Jebus Cross 9-12) Diamond Monster + 1st Sneg + OFB-7 + Soda Net (the latter - due to the mess in organization; otherwise it could have been higher) 13) Moscow Championship 14) M-200 No. 7 15-16) Novichok Winter + Novichok Summer
I did not include team tournaments and 2x2s because they are difficult to compare with individual tournaments.
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Well, then "Soda IS NOT!", it's truly the most prestigious: 1) The status is off the charts - there are no games on Soda - only VT. The grandeur of the name - that's it! PR - The tournament host got banned!! 2) The lineup - I don't need to tell you that all the best players gathered ))) 3) Version VT > SoD. 4) MIRROR, HL+U! 5) Well, it's not a Club, okay. A small minus. 6) It had a prize pool!
Well, then "Soda IS NOT!" is truly the most prestigious: 1) The status is off the charts - there are no games on Soda - only VT. The grandeur of the name - that's it! PR - the tournament host got banned!! 2) The lineup - I don't need to tell you that all the best players gathered.))) 3) The VT version > SoD. 4) MIRROR, HL+U! 5) Well, it's not a Club, okay. A small minus. 6) It had a prize pool!
Total: 5.5 points out of 6 possible!
There was a failure in terms of PR, the personality of the host, and the mess in the organization. It's a case where you can damage the prestige of even a fairly good tournament in terms of lineup and rules.
But that's just my opinion, of course, and I'm not insisting on an objective assessment.
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Okay, okay, I just thought that beating another player using the same faction in the final match was the ultimate display of skill.)))
