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Player 2013
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Yostaris
3.8% 4 votes
Yegor Korobeynikov
1.9% 2 votes
The
0.9% 1 vote
Twaryna
8.5% 9 votes
Gomunguls
19.8% 21 votes
Stinger
61.3% 65 votes
HellLight
8.5% 9 votes
Maretti
28.3% 30 votes
Dirty_Player
5.7% 6 votes
GoD
12.3% 13 votes
GUNAR
4.7% 5 votes
Ayauhteotl
12.3% 13 votes
AlextheGreat
17.9% 19 votes
Amiloo
2.8% 3 votes
Javdet
0% 0 votes
KobRa_RR
0.9% 1 vote
Juristis
3.8% 4 votes
Bishop
2.8% 3 votes
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Before CIS-2013, I thought Alex was just one of the top players, capable of roughly the same things as the others, but more focused, assertive, and goal-oriented, which is why he achieved such results. But after watching his mirror matches, I realized that the difference between him and the other top players lies in his knowledge and understanding of the game. By spending 2-3K on a color at the start, he managed to maintain the pace or even pull ahead from the very beginning, developing as well as, or even better than, his opponent by the end of the first week, and noticeably surpassing him in power, hero development, and explored territory by the second week. Every time, he planned a rush on day 131, and he bought the color specifically for that, but in reality, he didn't need to rush; his army was stronger even without it. Therefore, I think that in mirror matches (both in the Wargames and hypothetical SoD scenarios), Alex would give the aforementioned three a run for their money. Not with a clean sweep, of course, but with a noticeable advantage, roughly 2 to 1. Specifically, regarding the individuals: - Maretti plays too cautiously, trying to play it safe and launching his attack a day or two later than necessary. In other words, he doesn't lose games out of nowhere, but he doesn't effectively utilize the temporary advantage in development. - Stinger, to use chess terminology, makes too many "quick moves" - he makes fast, superficial decisions, which often leads to him losing small advantages despite having a sound strategic plan. This is good for blitz games, but not so good for long, controlled games. And sometimes he "misses" things, failing to account for fatal coincidences or hidden reserves of his opponent, which is the opposite of Maretti's situation. - I can't say anything about Homunculus, as I've only seen a couple of his games. As for Alex, I don't see any obvious weaknesses in his playing style; he's strong in all areas.
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Maybe CIS is a good indicator for you?
Alex deserves to participate, but he won't win, people like other players more.
Okay.
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Before CIS-2013, I thought that Alex was just one of the top players, capable of doing roughly the same as the others, but at the same time more focused, assertive, and goal-oriented, hence the results.

But, after watching his replays, I realized that the difference between him and the other top players lies in their knowledge and understanding of the game - giving away 2-3K for a color from the start, he managed to maintain the pace or even take the lead from the very first days, develop no worse, or even better than his opponent by the end of the first week, and noticeably overtake him in power, hero development, and explored territory in the second week.

Each time, he planned a red rush on 131, and he bought the color specifically for it, but in reality, he didn't have to red rush, his army was stronger even without it.

Therefore, I think that in mirror matches (both in Wargames and hypothetical SoDs), Alex will give a hard time to all three of the aforementioned players. Not with a clean sweep, of course, but with a noticeable advantage, approximately 2 to 1.

Specifically regarding the players:

- Maretti plays too safely, tries to score a goal, starts attacking a day or two later than necessary. That is, he doesn't lose games on his own, but he doesn't use the temporary advantage in development effectively enough.

- Stinger, to put it in chess terms, "makes too many moves" - makes quick, superficial moves, which is why he often loses small things despite having a correct strategic plan. This is good for blitz, but not very good for long control. And sometimes he "misses" things, doesn't take into account fatal coincidences or hidden reserves of the opponent, here the situation is the opposite of Maretti.

- I can't say anything about Homunculus, I've only seen a couple of his games.

As for Alex, I don't see any obvious weaknesses in his playing style, he is strong in all components.
You highlighted the weaknesses from your point of view, and they may be true, but I'll tell you this: there are no champions who don't lose a game sooner or later. AT&G has weaknesses too, people who are indifferent to him just don't see them!
And considering the frequency of training, this trio plays more often, and skill in any cyber game is training and constant grinding. A very simple example is Antonha Hellight, he would say the same thing. I think he took this trait from Dota :)

лето 2012.
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Piterius
It's clear that there are three leading players, but none of them has a significant advantage. We could resolve this with a vote, but I have an idea: a tournament featuring Stinger, Maretti, and Gomunguls – each playing two or three games against each other. This would definitively determine who is the best, and it would be incredibly entertaining for the viewers. I could take on the organization.

Regarding the competition, I'm all for it! :D

I'd like to offer an objective assessment: GoD and Stinger! I don't even think about comparing them; I'll just highlight their achievements this year. Zhenya won two major tournaments (Jebus and Lyubimchiki), and Artem also won two tournaments (2v2 and First Snow, and he played in the final of Jebus). As for Maretti, he plays well and has many victories, but most of them are against weaker opponents (in my opinion), and he doesn't have as many victories as GoD and Stinger.
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Regarding the ranking, I'm all for it! :D

I'd like to offer an objective opinion: GoD and Stinger! I wouldn't even consider comparing who is stronger; I'll just mention their achievements this year. Zhenya won 2 major tournaments (Jebus and Lyubimchiki), and Artem also won 2 tournaments (2v2 and First Snow + he played in the Jebus final). Regarding Maretti, yes, he plays well, and he has many victories, but most of them are not against strong opponents (IMHO) + you can't compare him in terms of the number of victories, because GoD hasn't posted many victories this year, and Stinger doesn't seem to have many either.
That's the complete truth.
I think you'll agree with me that right now there are roughly top 5 players who constantly win something and play at approximately the same level, and depending on who has won more titles this year and been more active, that's who should be awarded this title.

лето 2012.
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ATG also has its drawbacks, but people who care about it simply don't notice them!
Well, go ahead and point them out... I've seen dozens of his games live, and countless online, as well as a lot of games from other top players, so I'm quite knowledgeable about this. My conclusion is exactly as I stated – I haven't noticed any obvious weaknesses in his skill that his opponents consistently exploit (or could exploit). He doesn't lose often, and the reasons are always different, most often it's just due to the circumstances (no one is immune), or some random events that don't repeat in other matches.
And considering the frequency of their training, this trio plays more often, and skill in any esports game is about training and constant grinding.
I agree, I'm talking about Alexey as of May 2013; things might have changed since then.
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How can I provide an example if I haven't seen a single one of his games, not even one stream, and not because I don't want to, but because there weren't any, and there haven't been any, even in May 2013, and there weren't any this year either.

лето 2012.
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Perhaps the most pointless topic on ХВ, bravo!
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Just watch one of Alex's streams, and all doubts will disappear. He's a brilliant player, a solid top-1 contender. After watching his streams, it's hard to take other players' games seriously. It's a shame that there are hardly any full replays of his games left.
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Before CIS-2013, I thought Alex was just one of the top players, capable of roughly the same things as the others, but more focused, assertive, and goal-oriented, which is why he achieved such results.

But after watching his mirror matches, I realized that the difference between him and the other top players lies in his knowledge and understanding of the game. By giving up 2-3K gold for a color at the start, he managed to maintain the pace or even pull ahead from the very beginning, developing as well as, or even better than, his opponent by the end of the first week, and noticeably surpassing him in power, hero development, and explored territory by the second week. Every time, he planned a red rush on day 131 and bought the color specifically for it, but in reality, he didn't need to red rush; his army was stronger even without it.
+++++ I completely agree! I was very surprised when I saw how Alex played the mirror match (which he hadn't played much before) and, by giving up gold for a color (i.e., he started with 7000, while his opponent started with 13000), he was already outplaying not just newbies, but top-level players (KobRa, bayazet) in the first week. This fact really impressed me. Plus, his victory in the Only XL tournament without a single loss, both on SOD and WT.

Also, in my opinion, =Stinger=, GoD, Gomunguls, and HellLighT deserve recognition for obvious reasons that have already been mentioned many times.

P.S. Regarding the "battle" to determine the strongest, it's meaningless, in my opinion. This is a summary of the year 2013, and it's being done by the viewers. The players have already done what was required of them in 2013.
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Well, this time there is no candidate #1. It will be interesting to see how the vote turns out. :)
If speaking for myself, here's a little list:

=Stinger= - in all likelihood, he will be the Player of 2013. Even despite the fact that he plays little in the seasonal cup and doesn't shine with victories, while for newcomers the seasonal cup is usually the benchmark. Just a wonderful player and person.

Maretti - this is Maretti. Overall, I agree with Wicca's wording, but that in no way diminishes his merits. Good, confident, clear play. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins, though his drive has waned a bit this year.

Gomunguls - guilty as charged, I haven't watched his stream or played with him in over a year, but from what I can tell, Vitalya really is a top HeroesWorld player now. Sure, these days almost everyone is "local," but to be fair, back in the inter-portal days, out of the three mentioned, it was Gomunguls who played for us; the others played for their own resources. But even with home-field advantage, I don't particularly believe in Vitalya winning for the second year in a row.

HellLight - hasn't quite managed to solidify his top-tier status yet, but he made a strong entrance this year. :) If he keeps it up, he could easily become Player of 2014. As for 2013 - I'm not sure.

GoD - I'd like to say a word about this guy. Zhenya is something of a dark horse - he posts reports reluctantly, barely participates in forum squabbles, but despite that, he's a very skilled player; just too modest, I suppose. :) I remember that even 2-3 years ago, every game against him was very tough; back then I still underestimated him a bit, but he quickly showed what he's capable of. He has enormous potential, and his victories in Favorites and Jebus Cross came as no surprise to me at all. Although, due to his "low profile," he can hardly compete with the candidates already listed.

twaryna - I remember last year everyone wanted to nominate him for both Rookie of the Year and Player of the Year, primarily because of his charisma and streams. But this year, people have already had a taste of quality broadcasts, and it no longer seems so novel. We'll see if the stream army can secure him the win, though purely my (superficial) opinion is that Sanya relaxed a little toward the end of 2013.

Also, these are worthy of participation here:
Amiloo, even despite his "departure" mid-year
Javdet - a regular :)
KobRa_RR - couldn't leave him out :)
and well, I'd probably also throw in the once-disfavored Juristis - decent progress, seems like a promising guy.
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P.S. Regarding the "battle" to determine the strongest player, it's pointless, in my opinion. This is a summary of the year 2013, and it's being done by the viewers. The players have already done what was required of them in 2013.

So, these battles are intended for the viewers. If the audience asks for an encore, why not? "Pointless" refers to a poll where the difference between first and third place will be just a few votes, in my opinion. Such a victory is unlikely to be meaningful. Or maybe I don't quite understand the essence of the nomination? Isn't it about the player who is the most skilled and lucky? If not, then of course, you can vote based on personal preferences.

GOD, Hell - I have nothing against them, but at that time, three players stood out in the voting, and I objectively agree with that. A tournament with 4+ people, playing best-of-two, can drag on for a couple of months, and best-of-one is not objective. So, a vote is better.

Alex is definitely great, but he has faded into the background and remains there to this day. (Besides, there is a very strong player, Medium, who has also disappeared recently.) The lack of public speaking skills won't give him a chance to win in a vote, and his statements, both to me personally and on the forum, that he no longer plays online tournaments, served as a reason for me not to include him in the potential "friendly" match. Maybe he will write his own thoughts on this. You can't be great in absentia forever:smile50:
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Or maybe I didn't quite understand the point of the nomination? Isn't it the player who is the most skilled and lucky? If not, then of course you can vote based on personal preferences.
Luck and skill are demonstrated in tournaments, but here it's specifically a prize for audience sympathy. The Oscars, Grammys, and other awards are also not objective.
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Dirty_Player
Indeed, strong and skilled. There will be other nominations for the rest.
Dirty_Player
Luck and skill are demonstrated in tournaments, but here it's specifically the audience's favorite award.
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Весна 2014.
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2Juristis, just to make it clearer for you: strong and skilled, according to viewers. Is that okay?
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2Juristis, just to make it clearer for you: strong and skilled, according to the viewers. Is that okay?
I don't care, it just made me smile because of the contradiction in these phrases.
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Весна 2014.

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