Winter Championship for Heroes 3 [Kyiv-2014] — Tournament History online

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12/28/2013 12:16 PM UTC #306

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Satyr

What other options could there be? We start playing in the morning and continue until the end. Everyone will be warned before the tournament that this is what awaits them in case of a game on an 8x6 map. + there will be no incentive to rush across the entire map. It's like in tennis - with a weaker opponent, it makes sense to play a 3-set match because the chance of losing over the distance is even smaller, but only fatigue can accumulate before the next match. Strategy, damn it.

This is all great for one game. For 4 rounds, it's nonsense. Everyone will quit the next day. And I'm more than sure of it. For now, the only reasonably sound option I see is to expand the pool of templates only for the final. Everything else looks good only in words.

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12/28/2013 1:09 PM UTC #307

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Firstly, not everyone will make it to the late game. Secondly, not every game will transition into a deep late game. Thirdly, those who do make it and start complaining until they're exhausted will be the ones trying to prevent it. Added 1 minute later

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It's a given that they'll be playing from morning. But a victorious ending might be limited by a train (or plane) ticket.

And when playing on a smaller map or with Jebus, the train is slowed down, and boarding the plane is delayed.

Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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12/28/2013 1:53 PM UTC #308

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Satyr

And when playing with SM or Jebus, the game slows down, and boarding the plane is delayed.

Just don't be sarcastic... You perfectly understand that SM is played much faster, and Jebus is just Jebus - those who choose him probably think something...
Jebus is only good because of the timing; if you reduce it, he'll be useless...

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12/28/2013 1:56 PM UTC #309

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Satyr

Firstly, not everyone will play on HL.
Secondly, not every game will turn into a long, drawn-out late game.
Thirdly, those who do play and push themselves to the limit will be the ones who suffer the consequences.

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And when playing on SMK or Jebus, the game slows down, and boarding the plane is delayed.

This is all great, but it only takes 1-2 of these long, drawn-out games to disrupt the schedule. I repeat - this is unacceptable. As an example, I can cite the tournament in Novosibirsk and the game between Predsa and someone on a full-WT game that lasted almost forever. Those who saw it will understand. And the opinion that real pros only play HL+U, and Jebus, SMK, and the like are garbage, is an outdated idea. Strong players who aim to win a tournament must be prepared to win in any situation.

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Registered: 11/23/2007 6:36 PM UTC

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12/28/2013 3:02 PM UTC #310

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I plan to drop by for a day or two – to check things out, chat, but I won’t be playing.

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12/28/2013 11:39 PM UTC #311

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I think we need to make those "Xelplus" players experience a couple of frustrating situations where their game is interrupted. For example, during a match, after 8 hours of real time, their game could be abruptly ended, and the result would be based on the subjective opinion of the judge or host. This would discourage them from even mentioning anything further, as everyone prefers to play comfortably and doesn't care about others or the deadlines.

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Registered: 4/29/2007 10:30 AM UTC

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12/28/2013 11:42 PM UTC #312

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Well, actually, it's very difficult to award XL+U, because the situation can change, and you can outmaneuver your opponent. In general, XL+U for club tournaments is a bad thing. This was proven in Odessa and Novosibirsk.

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12/28/2013 11:58 PM UTC #313

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Well, that’s why I mentioned the subjective and superficial opinion without a detailed analysis; it’s no longer his problem, but the problem of those who choose xl+U.
P.S. Of course, I’m not suggesting adding them to the list of templates, but I suggest allowing one match for those who are particularly zealous and vocal, so that their opinions might change afterward.

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Registered: 1/16/2008 4:35 PM UTC

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12/29/2013 2:56 PM UTC #314

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Guys, it's just a Swiss-system tournament, 4 rounds. Some might leave after losing the first round, while others will play all the rounds. In this case, the Swiss system is a flexible one. We play each round to the end, no "...we'll finish it tomorrow." In the most extreme case, a decision is made. In my memory, only one such decision caused a dispute - in Krasnodar in 2004, in a quarterfinal match between Dima and a player from Minsk, vvv. Otherwise, the Swiss system worked well. It's a shame that I'm walking around with a cold, but it's chronic for me; I'll try to recover.

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12/29/2013 3:01 PM UTC #315

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Nagan-4

It's a shame I'm walking around with a cold, but it's chronic, I'll try to get better.

We'll fix it! I've got some cognac on hand!... We really need a judge!!! :)

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12/29/2013 3:13 PM UTC #316

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I’ll only treat myself with cognac and lemon.

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Registered: 6/7/2007 3:41 AM UTC

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12/30/2013 11:47 AM UTC #317

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twaryna

We decide on the trip: LeBron, oxygen_hl, Papik, Stinger, and many others.

Quite unexpectedly, all my projects were shut down on the same day!
Now the only question is buying tickets :)

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D

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12/30/2013 3:19 PM UTC #318

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LeBron

all my projects were unexpectedly shut down on the same day!
now the only question is buying tickets :)

damn, damn, damn, when I said we'll settle things if you come to Kyiv, I didn't expect you to actually come :peka: too lazy to insert a picture :)

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Registered: 6/7/2007 3:41 AM UTC

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12/30/2013 3:34 PM UTC #319

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The_

damn, damn, damn, when I said we'll settle things if you come to Kyiv, I didn't expect you to actually come :peka: too lazy to insert a picture :)

I don't know anything. We have all the moves recorded :p

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D

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Registered: 11/23/2007 11:24 AM UTC

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12/30/2013 4:37 PM UTC #320

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LeBron

all my projects were unexpectedly shut down on the same day!
now the only question is buying tickets :)

same here, now I just need to find this cottage on the map, but I can't find it :)
Considering that I have one of my country houses somewhere in that area :)
It shows something near the Borispolskaya metro station, although these buses don't go to Poznyaki, but rather towards the dams.
(I found it, it seems this is the address:
Search via maps.yandex.ua: Ukraine, Kyiv, Darnitsky district, Gaevaya street

I'll be playing (Heroes, not cards :)).
I'll treat you to a few barrels of beer.

Welcome to Hell, come to Kyiv! :smile13:

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.