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SECOND OFFLINE HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC I TOURNAMENT "NEIGHBORS"


TOURNAMENT RULES


1. To participate in the second offline tournament for Heroes of Might and Magic I "NEIGHBORS", you must register on our website www.heroesworld.ru, as well as submit an application in this thread.

P.S. This tournament is held as part of the general same-named Cunningham tournament, therefore all information, as well as its progress and results, will be displayed in that section.
Турнир имени Jov Van Caneghem-а на HeroesWorld

Note: final tournament results will also be available in the offline tournaments section for Heroes of Might and Magic I.

2. The tournament is played on the Russian version of Heroes of Might and Magic I from Buka. The save will be generated on Russian version 1.1.

3. The goal of the game is to defeat the enemy.
The submitted save must contain the tournament number (2), the participant's number in the application table, the abbreviation (C - NEIGHBORS) and the player's Nick.

Example:

2_1_C_VDV_forever.GM1
2_2_C_AlexeyPank.GM1


4. The result will be evaluated, first and foremost, by the minimum time.
If several players have an equal walkthrough time, the best will be determined by the sum of primary skills (attack, defense, magic, knowledge) INCLUDING EQUIPPED ARTIFACTS; if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.

5. Along with the submitted save, it is mandatory to provide a description of the final step (battle with a hero, battle for a castle, capturing an artifact, victory over the last monster) after which victory occurs, or the walkthrough of the scenario.

6. The submitted save must have only one conquering hero who performs the final action (others should simply be dismissed).

7. It is forbidden: to buy back your dismissed heroes on the same day (i.e., using the "dismissal-buyback" trick);
it is also forbidden to buy heroes who died in battle (not to be confused with those who fled)!

8. It is forbidden: to move a bought-back hero who fled/paid off in battle on the day they fled/paid off. Buying such a hero is allowed, but they can only be moved the following day;

9.It is forbidden: To dig up the Grail without fully uncovering the puzzle map.

10. It is forbidden: to use cheating programs, codes, as well as additional software that can change the game structure.

11. Send the save to the email address VDV_forever@BK.RU

12. In case of suspicion of cheating or other malicious intent during the map walkthrough, a save must be made every game day.
In such a case (detection of cheating), the player will be required to send additional saves and provide a description of the walkthrough to the tournament organizer to determine whether the play was unfair or honest.
The result of a player who played dishonestly will be voided, and their further participation in tournaments will be impossible. This will also reflect poorly on their reputation.

13. Discussion of the tournament during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players who violate this rule automatically exclude themselves from playing the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

14. The tournament starts on February 1 and lasts until February 28 (inclusive!). Results will be announced on March 3, 2007.

15. After receiving your save, you will see in the application table that:

save accepted - indicated by a bold Nick.
save counted - indicated by an italicized bold Nick.

This list may be expanded with new participants!
We invite everyone to take part in the tournament!

Saves will only be considered for players who are in this table, so submit your applications IN ADVANCE!!!



PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBERPLAYER NICK
1 VDV_forever
2 Kyle
3 Night
4 Inquisitor
5 Zingel
6 Isabel
7 AlexeyPank
8GriB_o.k.
9Lexx
10Sage
11CrasH
12IronAxe
13vbn
14GmiR
15Armadale
16Alex R
17vbs
18WAD
19mmiha
20sergh
21Fireball
22Sir Christian
23Lacky
24MasterCard
25Oleg RS
26Varg-Nar
27YoshiDo
28Richard I
Everything about the starting save

Starting save
from 01.02.07 download
save:
map from which the save was generated:

1. Download the save.

2. The downloaded Save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of the installed Heroes of Might and Magic I.

3. Load it and start playing at any time convenient for you, while remembering to make daily saves.

4. After reaching the final action (after which victory occurs), save again.

5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle); then the results will be processed faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!

6. A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If such descriptions are provided, a contest for the best description will be held; 10 of them (the very best) will take their place of honor in the "Hall of Fame" section!

7. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

8. Wait for the results.

P.S. I wish all tournament participants a great time playing and, most importantly, VICTORY!

P.S.S. If there are any additions or comments, please do not hesitate to speak up to minimize disagreements and shortcomings in the same-named process of the tournament.
Sincerely, VDV_forever
Единый справочник по Героям Меча и Магии

ТУРНИРЫ ПО ГЕРОЯМ 1!:smile13:
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GriB_o.k.;70656
Sent the save file. I hope everything is okay with it.
I just can't understand how someone can improve their result by 4 times!!!
My improvement is only 5 days... I won't say it in percentages.
Maybe he completed it the first time in 200 days.
I improved my first result by 2 times.
Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.
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By the way, to dispel any doubts, it’s still February 28th in my time zone, so I hope I managed to “jump in” to this exciting tournament.
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It's interesting to know how many days it took the champion to complete the game... since there are only 15 minutes left until the end of the tournament, I don't think I'll be disqualified if I assume that the first-place time will be around 13 days... there will definitely be some kind of monster who surprises everyone... hehe... and maybe we could even set up a casino, guessing the winner's result... just kidding.
I think that 15 days is an achievable result. However, there will definitely be some monster who surprises everyone.
Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.
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Why is it like that? Did you just pick a number randomly, or can you explain it somehow?
It seems he took a certain percentage of days from his own result. And he determined the percentage based on his assessment of his own playthrough.
Personally, I wouldn't try to guess the winner's result, but I don't see a way to complete it in 13 days. Maybe someone else has come up with a solution.
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By the way, just to clear up any doubts, it's still February 28th in my time zone, so I hope I managed to "jump in" into this exciting tournament.
I think VDV would accept your save even if you were a little late. But next time, it's better to send the save in advance so you don't have to worry :)
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I will definitely keep that in mind. Besides, you won't have to register again for future tournaments.
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I think 15 days is an achievable goal. However, there will definitely be some monster that surprises everyone.
Well, I don't think there are any such "maniacs" here who save before every battle and reload if they don't minimize losses as much as possible (while attacking an enemy that is stronger).
Honestly, I think 15 is still too little!
Personally, I didn't improve my result because this is my first experience in such tournaments, and I want to see how strong the regulars of this portal are, and I was also too lazy to play Heroes for another hour and a half.
Well, I hope there will be a place for me in the top 10!:smile33:
Всем героям герой:smile19:
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GriB_o.k.;70692
It's interesting how many days the champion took to complete the map... Since there are only 15 minutes left until the end of the tournament, I don't think I'll be disqualified if I assume that the first-place time will be around 13 days... There will definitely be some new monster... hehe... and maybe we could even set up a casino, guessing the winner's result... just kidding.
I think we can already discuss the tournament :)
According to my logical calculations, this map can be completed in 11 days. However, I couldn't achieve that myself :).
Surprisingly, the result on this map depends less on the player and more on the AI. It depends on how the AI develops and where its heroes go. Although, the latter is much less important, because after capturing the first AI castle, with skillful play, you can reach any point on the map on the 3rd day.

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GriB_o.k.;70656
...I just can't understand how someone can improve their result by 4 times!!!
My improvement is only 5 days... I won't say it in percentages)).
Well, I was just getting acquainted with the map and playing it like a normal person (I killed all the paladins in my territory, went through the portal, etc.), and not in a twisted way, like some players do. That's why the result of my first playthrough was a month and a half to two months.

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Lacky;70718
I don't think there are any maniacs here who save before every battle and reload if they don't minimize losses as much as possible (while attacking an enemy that is stronger).
Hmm, you're wrong, my friend. Sometimes you attack someone 15 times: 12 times you get defeated, 2 times you manage to survive, and once - with almost no losses! I don't know if this happens in other versions of Heroes, but in the first one, it's quite possible.

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I think the tournament was a success!
You can judge this by the number and good activity of the participants!
Well done, VDV_Forever! Huge respect!
Герои - это клёво.
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Lacky;70718
I don't think there are many "hardcore" players here who save before every battle and reload if they don't minimize losses (especially when attacking an enemy that is stronger).
Honestly, I think 15 days is too little!
Personally, I didn't try to improve my result because this is my first experience in tournaments like this, and I want to see how strong the regulars of this forum are. Also, I was just too lazy to play Heroes for another hour and a half.
I hope there will be a place for me in the top 10! :smile33:
Minimizing losses is always nice, but on this map, it's not necessary. The goal here is to defeat everyone, not to build a cool Castle or have a strong monster.
And regarding 15 days – it really is too little.
Theoretically, it's possible to complete it in 15-16 days, but in practice, it takes 17 days or more.
As for the "secret" percentages, 36% is a good improvement because my first (attempt) was successful, as it seemed to me, so I submitted it.
There were reasons to think that I wouldn't have time to replay.
But I did have thoughts on how to improve the result (but not by much).
And then, during the last weekend, I managed to replay, and I played just for fun, but still focused on the result, and I achieved an improvement. By the way, I was wrong in my calculations; I improved by 43.5%.
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Theoretically, it's possible to complete it in 15-16 days, but in practice, it takes 17 days or more.
Could you elaborate on the theory behind this conclusion? And why does it take longer in practice?
Герои - это клёво.
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Could you please tell me what theory this conclusion is based on? And why does it practically yield more?
You can break through to the portal to your neighbors no earlier than 11 o'clock (this is with a good army), and it takes 2-3 days to destroy the computer.
But practically, it always yields more.
The point is that not everyone can achieve what is theoretically possible. And I am no exception.
I spent a day there, and another day...

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so, if it's okay to discuss, why isn't anyone talking about their achievements? I'm ready...
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Surprisingly, the outcome on this map depends less on the player and more on the AI. It depends on how the AI develops and where its heroes go. Although, the latter is much less important, because after capturing the first AI castle, with skillful play, you can reach any point on the map on the 3rd day.
In my opinion, the most important thing on this map is obtaining the teleportation magic from the AI. The war with the AI after landing on the island of the yellow AI really took me 3 days.
Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.
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Well, I hope there will be a place for me in the top 10!:smile33:

It's hard to say. I also thought I would be in the top 5, but considering the thoughts in the posts and WHAT kind of people are participating, I'm a little doubtful.
But as a competitor, I am satisfied with my result, not without the help of the FORUM MEMBERS!
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You can break through to the portal to your neighbors no earlier than day 11 (and that's with a good army), and it takes 2 or 3 days to destroy the computer.
But it usually takes even longer.
The point is that not everyone can achieve what is theoretically possible. And I am no exception.
I spent a day there, and another day...

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so, if we can discuss it, why isn't anyone talking about their achievements? I'm ready...
Break through to the portal? And that's on the second week... Well, yes, I added pikemen there, and gargoyles... + castle growth of swordsmen and pikemen + genies. You'll beat the paladins, but then what? Dragons, phoenixes... And which computer castle should you capture first?
Honestly, I didn't go through the portal. I sailed! :)
Герои - это клёво.

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