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Offline Myxomoar
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The problem is that the opposite situation can also occur: someone has a maxed-out Utopia with a full set of Magellan's items, while someone else has a Tier 3 map with a basic item and full control. But in general, yes, all of this exists in the World Tree, so if you don't like Utopia maps with weak items, just play World Tree maps.
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29.11.2013 Maretti (red, necro, clavius) def Myxomoar (blue, flux, fiur) diamond 127

Early massslow with the skells ment easy win. Thanks for playing.
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29.11.2013 Maretti (red, necro, clavius) def Myxomoar (blue, flux, fiur) diamond 127

Early massslow with the skells ment easy win. Thanks for playing.

Confirmed, actually everything was fine until the opp showed up)

On the first I stuck birds, sacrificing scouting and hero leveling. My opponent revealed some fierce Clavius and Nagash, even Crag, who rules, Hack was there. Then I shook down the Dragon Fly Hive and killed the caster-lock, tried to take the Barbarian from my opponent, but tried so straightforwardly that I was punished by a scout that ran out of that very Barbarian Castle. After a break of a couple of days, I started with a stupid mistake and ended with one too) The only chance for victory was the Dragon Utopias, which I could have tried to take from week 3 and catch Armageddon there, but it all ended sooner)

Thx for playing!
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Offline Dirty_Player
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As the local Heroes players in Minsk explained to me, junk in Dragon Utopias is needed to balance layouts - if one person was given a Dragon Utopia and another wasn't, that's not necessarily an imbalance; maybe there's a captain's hat in that Dragon Utopia...
I agree with this as well. The absence of junk in a Dragon Utopia increases the value of an already valuable object.
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I agree with this as well. The absence of junk in Dragon Utopia increases the value of an already valuable object.

The same goes for morale; if you're not sure you'll win, don't attack. But there is definitely a imbalance, and it's quite significant.
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27.11.2013 Lim4(red, Conflux, random Inteus, Moner) def Chemist_HP(blue, Necropolis, random Clavius, Galtran) 8mm6a 123

Thanks for the game.

That was the case. Everything was going well — Griffin Conservatories, Dragon Fly Hives, a convenient transport hub, and the Necromancer's Cloak — but someone among the Necromancer players once again raised Necromancy. It turned out to be Vidomina. And the game immediately changed — it was no longer the same. I capitulated.

Thanks for the game!
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11/29/2013 Dirty_Player (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Mephala) def Kreg Xek (red, Castle, Tyris, Valeska) balance 117

We started the match with a console and a hidden harpies' lair. The console turned out to be 3-4 with a growth spell, I broke through to the secondary town, found a hidden wyvern lair there, and placed 2 portals. I went to the second secondary town, foolishly lost the wyvern, and stormed into the dwarves' town, losing another unit. But the secondary town was a Dungeon, and there was another portal. On turn 121, I took the console (3) and made a quick move to the opponent's second town, but he surrendered because he didn't have enough 500 gold for angels.... Thanks for the game.
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11/29/2013 Dirty_Player (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Mephala) def Kreg Xek (red, Castle, Tyris, Valeska) balance 117

We started the match with a console and a hidden harpies' lair. The console turned out to be a 3-4 with a growth spell, I broke through to the secondary town, found a hidden lair of wyverns there, and placed 2 portals. I went to the second secondary town, foolishly lost a wyvern, and stormed into the dwarves' lair, losing another one. But the secondary town was a Dungeon, and there was another portal. On turn 121, I took the console (3) and made a quick move to the opponent's second town, but he surrendered because he didn't have 500 gold for angels... Thanks for the game.

Confirmed. Thanks for the game!
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Angels are a strong choice – go for it!
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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Offline Roger DAltavilla
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Group C 11/29/2013 Roger DAltavilla (red, Tower, Rizza, Charna) def. Redsnow (blue, Swamp, Tazar) 6lm10a 135
Thank you for the game!
Воздам сторицей!
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11/29/2013 Roger DAltavilla (red, Tower, Rizzah, Charna) def. Redsnow (blue, Swamp, Tazar) 6lm10a 135
Thank you for the game!
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Offline Pit for LM
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30.11.2013. Pit for LM (red, Conflux, random Erdamon, Brissa) def Pyre (blue, Fortress, Tazar, Gundula), Spider, 115.
We started after a couple of restarts, I was dealt a decent big resp. I gathered troops, went out, and on 114 I ran into the green computer's barbarians. And it met me with a huge army - 3 rocs, 16 wolves, 7 orcs, 40 goblins. My 14 air elementals and 50 faeries barely managed. 10 air elementals remained, then I had to storm the castle with Isra - 8 remained. But I got another big and rich resp in return.
The prospects were decent - birds were spawning, stables, boots, gloves, money for buying, a few more small stat artifacts, a camp with 2 cavaliers, plenty of roads.
But the opponent's computer turned out to be no less nasty than mine, killed Tazar, and then the blockers finished off the remnants of the army from two vivi's.
Thank you for the game.
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Offline Roger-ua
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30.11.2013 BISHOP(синий, тавер, солмир, гурнисон) def Roger-ua(красный, данж, шакти, шакти) JC 132
I confirm.
I was forced to take a rest on 113, because despite having 10 wyverns, there was nothing else and the Tower treasure zone. The opponent chose their own rests. On 111 Shakti had 2 stacks and Lorelei had 86 troglodytes. The second level was not built. On 111 I take the manticore external dwelling. The road in the other direction is blocked by 10+ snipers. On 114 I found 3 hives behind 100+ archers, 20+ medusa queens and 50+ elves. On the first one 12346 in the Castle with a portal. I hit ГО on 125 having gathered 5 hives (31 wyverns) and consu 2. ГО was 50+ ifrits with gs, it fell normally. On 131 I make a wrong decision - to split Shakti home doubling mana, while Caitlin reaches the city in the treasure zone and returns Shakti to the treasure zone. Alas, the treasure zone is significantly tougher than the smka and Caitlin could not reach the city with 42 wyverns, 7 nag queens and an archdevil. ГГ. Not taking +1 knowledge from the Tower secondary and ineffective use of mana led to the inability to use flight in the treasure zone. And although the opponent only exited on 131, even if I had taken the Dragon Utopia on 131, the FB would most likely have been lost. Because with approximately equal troops, only 5 mana remained. The treasure zone was again Tower.
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Весна 2013.
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1.12.2013 Aiwe (red, Tower, Neela) def Player_ (blue, Necropolis, Tamika) 8mm6a 146

Basically, the generation turned out unrealistically weird; I scouted a ton, almost half the map, yet only found 1 Griffin Conservatory and 2 Dragon Fly Hives, one of which had 10+ Fire Birds, no artifacts, no Pandora's Boxes, no zombies did I see, plus the Mage Guild gave junk, except Neela's leveling was pleasing.

I fought the whole time with my starting army + 3 Angels from the Griffin Conservatory. I spotted the opponent near his town — went to him, melted — shot down — GG, and he only had Dragon Flies and Skeletons, same as I had Gremlins, all because of the unreal roads and the whole generation.

Glad I won, but I wish there were fewer games like this when at 146 you only have your starting army and no artifacts, I was nervous the whole time — afraid I'd die from a ton of Skeletons.

Thanks for the game!
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