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Are you planning to attend this event?
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Yes, I will definitely come.
16.3% 13 votes
I will try, but I cannot give an exact answer right now.
22.5% 18 votes
I’ll decide closer to January (I’ll make up my mind at the last moment)
20% 16 votes
I definitely won’t be able to go.
41.3% 33 votes
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That's why I never play 8mm6a, because all the games take an unreal amount of time. It's not normal to play one game for 15-20 hours; in that time, I could play three Jebus games.
Plus, with control, games on 8mm6a often end in a draw, at least from my own experience. So, forget about wasting time on that.
The template is interesting, but it's too long.
That's why you won't reach the level of a top player.

The real game usually starts after the first final, before that it's just completing homework. And on Jebus and similar templates, the game usually ends after the first final.

The ability to fight neutrals and build chains to collect resources is the easiest part of the skill, and many can master it. The ability to fight an opponent is a more complex aspect, mastered by few. I occasionally watch streams, and most finals are boring due to the number of mutual mistakes. Even more difficult to master is the ability to maneuver on the map in the late game - capturing and holding territory, distributing forces across different areas of the map, catching enemy heroes and their fathers, intercepting reinforcements, etc. And the most advanced skill is the ability to come back from bad positions. Losing the final on the 2nd or 3rd week is not a problem; we'll make up for it in the endgame.
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I'm always surprised by Vika. She has so much information, she's always up to date with everything related to Heroes, but she doesn't play herself. Is this like ATG? Like, why would she play with noobs?
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IMHO, 8mm6a is a good map. But what if you play it on fast roads?
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This is precisely why you will never reach the level of a top player.

The real game usually begins after the first finale; everything before that is just completing homework. On Jebus Cross and similar templates, the game typically ends at the first finale.

The ability to fight neutrals and build chains to collect goodies is the simplest part of the skill set, something many can master. The ability to fight an opponent is a more complex aspect, mastered by few — I occasionally watch streams, and most finales induce boredom due to the sheer number of mutual mistakes. Even harder to master is the ability to maneuver on the map in the late game — capturing and holding territory, distributing forces across different areas of the map, catching enemy weaklings and the main army, intercepting reinforcements, etc. And the most masterful skill is the ability to come back from bad positions. Lost the finale in the 2nd or 3rd week? No big deal, we'll bring in the endgame.


Everything you're talking about happens regularly on all other templates. Usually, the game doesn't end with a single major encounter, or what you call a finale. That's when everything you described actually begins.
Take Jebus Cross for example — there was a game recently where I reached the center on day 123, my opponent (red) on day 122, he caught me on day 124, I preemptively bribed (bought back my army), and he took out my main stacks. Then, knowing I couldn't win yet, I went back to the center and to a nearby respawn. Long wars of scouts and small armies ensued while the main army recovered. In the end, it dragged on until week 4, when I finally pulled it off. And this happens in almost every 2nd game; if players give up immediately after one lost encounter, that just shows they have weak willpower and no character. It's a different story if there truly are no prospects — then it's time to surrender. But you should always try to find them and fight to the end. Wearing down the opponent's nerves is a very useful psychological tactic in Heroes, and you yourself know just how effective it is.

Well, and yes, it depends on what each person considers the level of top players. You're probably only judging by games on 8mm6a and on WT.
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I'm shocked, the tickets went on sale today and are almost sold out (for the most convenient train from Moscow - it leaves at 11 PM and arrives at 10 AM local time). This leads to the question: if I buy tickets for a different time, there's quite a large range - from the evening of the 2nd (from 7 PM local time) to 5 AM on the 3rd. Which option would be better? In general, it seems like I need to buy tickets in the next few days. Therefore, I have two questions: who from Moscow is planning to go, and who is definitely going? How do you plan to get there? And a question for Tvarin: regarding the arrival date, from the options mentioned above, which is better?
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http://www.tutu.ru/poezda/rasp_d.php?nnst1=2000000&nnst2=2200000&date=02.01.2014

I'm shocked, the tickets went on sale today and are almost sold out (for the most convenient train from Moscow, which leaves at 11 PM and arrives at 10 AM local time). Therefore, the question is, if I take tickets for a different time, there is quite a large range: on the 2nd, in the evening (from 7 PM local time), until 5 AM on the 3rd. What would be more relevant? In general, it seems that tickets need to be bought in the coming days. In this regard, there are two questions: who from Moscow is planning to go, and who is definitely going? How do you plan to get there? And a question for Tvarin, regarding the arrival date, from the options above, which is better?


I wrote above - there are 2 trains - Moscow - Gomel (Brest) - they run every day - the one to Gomel is more expensive - the one to Brest is cheaper (800 rubles difference) - we can meet - it takes 4 hours for me to get from here to Kyiv for 10 USD.))) if you can't find anyone and there are problems with transportation, you can consider this as an option.
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I mentioned it above – there are two trains: Moscow - Gomel (Brest) – they run daily. The one to Gomel is more expensive, and the one to Brest is cheaper (800 rubles difference). You can meet up, and it takes 4 hours to get from me to Kyiv for 10 USD.))) If you can't find anyone and have trouble with transportation, you can consider this as an option.

That's a good option, I'll keep it in mind. Which location would be more convenient for you to pick me up from, Gomel or Brest?
Overall, I'd like to finalize the details this week. As of now, I'm 95% sure I'll be able to come.
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Good option, I'll keep it in mind. Would it be more convenient for you to pick it up from Gomel or Brest?
In general, I'd like to finalize the details this week; currently, I'm 95% sure I'll be able to come.

I live in Gomel -) so if you're coming, that's where you should head. +375293602421, Stepan. And if it suits anyone else, feel free to write or call.
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Arrival and check-in will likely be on the first day of the session. We just need to confirm the dates. I think starting on the 3rd would be perfect.
If anyone arrives at night or early in the morning, I can meet them at the train station. I live a 10-minute walk from the Central Station and a 20-minute walk from the Southern Station (they are located next to each other and connected by passageways). The shuttle from Boryspil (airport) also arrives at the Southern train station and runs 24/7.

And yes, you should buy tickets now if you don't want to hitchhike to get here)).
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http://www.tutu.ru/poezda/rasp_d.php?nnst1=2000000&nnst2=2200000&date=02.01.2014

I'm shocked, the tickets went on sale today and are almost sold out (for the most convenient train from Moscow, which leaves at 11 PM and arrives at 10 AM local time). Therefore, the question is, if I buy tickets for a different time, there is quite a large range: on January 2nd in the evening (from 7 PM local time) to 5 AM on January 3rd. Which would be more suitable? In general, it seems that tickets need to be bought in the coming days. Therefore, there are two questions: who from Moscow is planning to go, and who is definitely going? How do you plan to get there? And a question for Tvarin, regarding the arrival date, from the options above, which is better?

This is a common practice on holidays/post-holiday dates for Moscow-Kyiv trains. From experience, more trains will be added, and it will be possible to buy tickets. But I don't advise delaying the purchase of tickets.

Dates: from the 3rd to the 6th, inclusive.
That is, check-in to the house will be no earlier than 12-2 PM on January 3rd.
If a certain number of guests arrive, say in the evening of the 2nd, we will rent an apartment for a "pre-party".

In the next few days, I will go to see several house options, including:
http://www.domik.net/nedvizhimost/kiev-sdam-dom-posutochno-sadovaya-ul-id572109.html
http://www.domik.net/nedvizhimost/kiev-sdam-dom-posutochno-sadovaya-ul-id817580.html

The desired dates are currently available, and the prices seem reasonable. I will write more details after seeing them in person.
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Are casual observers and lurkers welcome? If a decent environment is promised (a normal bed, poker, trash talk, fun, and debauchery), I'll try to come – I'll let you know for sure after December 7th.
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Actually, it’s a championship for Heroes, not for poker or lawn bowling.
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Actually, it's a Heroes tournament, not a poker or beer pong tournament.
This is a common misconception among those who haven't attended similar events.
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Actually, why not use the same Demon map as a template? Jeb, but without a bunch of extra features and with many demons. With Maretti, we played up to level 126 in about 5 hours, including all the rests, and with the timer almost at 0, we killed 16+8+1 enemies. The only downside is the portal or regular exit along the way, which, on the other hand, could also be a tactical advantage.
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Actually, it's a Heroes tournament, not a poker or beer pong tournament.
more likely for Heroes 2 and 3.

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