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Offline Redwhait
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The portal had a good system:
1-5 points, playoff qualification; 6-7 points, tiebreaker; 8-10 points, elimination.
This also created a desire to fight to the end because even with 3-4 points, you could at least qualify for the tiebreaker.

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But otherwise, it doesn't matter whether you finish 4th or 10th, especially if you're also running out of time...
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Offline Roger DAltavilla
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I think the distance was chosen incorrectly. Why 10 people? For an online round-robin tournament, where rounds can be played in any order, it's better to have an odd number of participants. This ensures an equal number of blue and red teams. And most importantly: 9 rounds in a Heroes round-robin is a lot. Unlike chess, draws are very rare in Heroes, and the winners quickly separate from the losers. The latter are no longer interested in finishing the remaining rounds, but these rounds affect the Berger score. Imagine that at the finish, not two leaders, but three players arrive with an equal number of points: Ayauhteotl, Maretti, and Gomunguls. This immediately increases the importance of the remaining matches, for example, Scorpiona vs. LeBron. The optimal format is a round-robin with 7 (8) people; those who fall behind haven't had time to get discouraged, and it's already over. Using the OFB+FB system, you could try running FB (round-robin) and OFB (Swiss system) simultaneously to the next final. The top 3 in FB remain in FB, and the other 4 (5) are eliminated until the next time in OFB (which is wasted time), and there's your incentive. And to determine the top 4 in the Swiss system with 80 participants, 9 rounds are required, and rebellious is right. And, of course, the choice of templates and castles turned out to be a mess. The selection of templates and castles in Heroes is like the opening in chess. Imagine if the organizers told chess players before a round: "today you are playing the Alekhine Defense"? :) In a full-fledged tournament, there should be a variety of templates, and the templates and castles should be chosen by the participants themselves.
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Roger DAltavilla
Imagine if the organizers told chess players before a round: "today you will be playing the Alekhine Defense"? :)
I've played in such tournaments, nothing special, just an extra test of knowledge/lack of knowledge of a particular opening. And here it's the same... :)
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Roger DAltavilla
Imagine if the organizers told chess players before a round: "Today you will be playing the Alekhine Defense." :)
Here, imagine that I played in such a tournament.
Roger DAltavilla
A full-fledged tournament should have a variety of templates, and the templates and factions should be chosen by the participants themselves.
No one owes anyone anything, understand. In this OFB-FB tournament, my position was that the most versatile players should advance to the final, players who can play on all templates and with all factions, and not just "Castle-Swamp on Jebus." And this concept fits perfectly with the idea of Best. Perhaps I went a little too far somewhere, but I always take my mistakes into account.
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The portal had a good system:
1-5 advance to the next round, 6-7 playoffs, 8-10 elimination.
This is a bad system. As a result, the lineup for the next tournament consists of almost the same people who played in the previous tournament, and as a result, people get tired of playing with the same people, so the tournament eventually fizzled out.

In general, Yura is right, we need to come up with some kind of bonuses for 4th-5th place. I'll think about it.
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Players just have to show some respect to the other players when they join.
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Offline Roger DAltavilla
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Sanin
He played in such tournaments; nothing special, just another test of knowledge or lack thereof regarding specific openings. The same applies here... :)
This is only for practice, not for competition.
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07.11.2013 Gomunguls (Red, Rampart, Kairis, Kairis) def. Maretti (Blue, Necropolis, Clavius, Clavius) 8mm6a, 1.4.7
We chose all restarts, surrendering based on luck!!! In the second week, I gathered a lot of resources and summoned angels, at the cost of losing a maximum number of naga and half of my army... There were 2 morale boosts on full stacks of nagas, but I managed to survive... Then I ran to another treasure, where I found a couple of minor artifacts, another one at home, and started focusing on merfolk... In the very first one, I got protection against the Necropolis in the form of a red orb!!! Then came a Knowledge skill and many other good artifacts... I assembled the Sniper Bow! In the 4th week, I assembled the Cursed Armor, spending all my remaining resources, trading everything I could, and buying the missing pieces on the market... I was 90% sure that an attack might happen, so I ignored everything else and prepared a defense in the castle, equipping the shackles, orb, and Cursed Armor with the Sniper Bow... And then the attack started on the secondary castle through the mountains, and Clavius ran to the castle, killed my well-leveled Aislin, and started the siege... It's a pity that there were skeletons in the garrison, which caused a lot of unnecessary anti-morale... But first, I went out to fight, and after losing 3 angels due to anti-morale, I immediately retreated into the city, killed the ballista, and started the bombardment... The shackles prevent retreat, and I had to surrender...
Thank you for a very tense and interesting game!!!
P.S. I would like to express my emotions... but maybe a little later))
Thank you very much to everyone who supported me!!! :smile12:
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I was rooting for Gomunguls after his match against Twaryna. Twaryna, of course, helped as much as he could :D (by the way, IMHO, his class and reliability improved noticeably during the Fortress Battle), but Gomunguls' feat definitely deserved to be rewarded! Also, big respect to Maretti. I've watched a lot of his streams and I admire his micro-management. :smile12: Best players, you are truly amazing.
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:smile49: Vitalik, congratulations!!! :smile12: Well done, you're holding the throne ;)
Maretti, for me, is an irresistible rock, a great player!:smile02:


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07.11.2013 Gomunguls (Red, Rampart, Kyrie, Kyrie) def. Maretti (Blue, Necropolis, Clavius, Clavius) 8mm6a, 1.4.7
We chose all restarts, surrendering based on luck!!! In the second week, I gathered a lot of resources and summoned angels, at the cost of losing in the marketplace and half of my army... There were 2 morale bonuses on full stacks of nagas, but I managed to survive... Then I ran to another treasure, where I found a couple of minor artifacts, another one at home, and started focusing on dwellings... In the very first one, I got protection against the Necropolis in the form of a red orb!!! Then came a Knowledge Chest and many other good artifacts... I assembled the Sniper Bow! In the 4th week, I assembled the Cursed Armor, spending all my remaining resources and buying the missing pieces on the market... I was 90% sure that an attack might happen, so I ignored everything else and focused on defending my castle, preparing and equipping the Shackles, Orb, and Cursed Armor with the Sniper Bow... And then the attack on the secondary town began through the mountains, and Clavius ran to the castle, killed my well-developed Aislin, and started storming the town... It's a pity that there were skeletons in the garrison, which gave a lot of unnecessary anti-morale... But first, I went out to fight, and after losing 3 angels due to anti-morale, I immediately retreated into the town, killed the ballista, and started the bombardment... The Shackles prevent retreat, and surrender followed...
Thank you for a very tense and interesting game!!!
P.S. I would like to express my emotions... but maybe a little later))
Thank you very much to everyone who supported me!!!:smile12:


I confirm. Had a terrible start with a bugged map, blocked in week 1 by 40+ vampires with upgrades and an endless road to the green, and very bad skills on Clavius. I thought about declaring an additional restart (as the opponent had done because of a block by lots of demons), but I didn't find a reason for it in the rules. I found a tope and could take it mid-week 3 after gathering around 500 skeletons. It was a minor artifact and gave a blue hat. Shortly after, I found a red cape and took a full tope that gave some stats. The army was weak, but at least I gathered around 1k skeletons and 5 angels, 3 ghosts, 0 wyverns, 10 dreads. I built 1 guild, and it gave teleportation, finally, some luck. Also found a hut that gave logistics. Better late than never. At 147, I decided to go for the opponent's 2nd town (castle). I saw his stats were low and expected AOTD. I decided to take the chance and hope he didn't have a red orb. It was a bad mistake, but I wanted to avoid the usual show vs. Kyrie, where she jumps around with max speed and full control and takes all towns without much hope of catching her. Here, I had the chance to end it. It turned out she didn't have boots or DD/fly, so despite the 2 combos I had, I had the chance to win but failed. Thanks for playing.
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Vitaly, well done! Winning twice in a row is a very impressive achievement! Aya also did great, it's definitely a huge success!!! Everything is ahead of you.
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Since when is the red orb a defense against Necropolis? With it, it's actually harder to deal with skeletons. Congratulations on the victory.
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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In most cases, the red sphere is the primary counter to bones. Of course, there are times when it works in their favor, but that's less common. Congratulations to Gomunguls on the victory, he deserved it, well done! Moretti also did a great job, it was a very cool game, and I enjoy watching his streams, there's always something to learn. And a big shout-out to Aia, she showed that girls are not only capable of playing Heroes well, but also of taking prize-winning places in such prestigious tournaments!
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Gomunguls, congratulations on the victory! Dirty, thank you for organizing the tournament; it was very interesting to play against such strong players. I set three goals for myself in this tournament, and unfortunately, I only managed to achieve two, but there's still plenty of time ahead. And of course, a huge thank you to everyone who supported me. Especially to Masha, who watched all the games and helped me not to get discouraged when things weren't going very well. Also, to Marat, Sam, Viz, and Svarog, who always tried to help and lift my spirits when they had the time. And just to everyone who was rooting for me. P.S.: I liked the idea with the castles, but it seems learning to play as Necropolis and Inferno won't help me with that. I still didn't get a chance to practice even once.
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07.11.2013 Gomunguls (Red, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) def Maretti (Blue, Necropolis, Clavius, Clavius) 8mm6a, 1.4.7
Well, Vitaly, best player for the second time in a row! That's a real achievement! It was a beautiful game! Nothing to say but bravo! Bravo! :smile12:
Ayya, who took second place, was definitely a discovery for me. Unfortunately, I didn't see all the games; rather, I received text broadcasts of some games in ICQ, since I was at work at the time.))) :smile12: And special thanks for your support in the 2v2 tournament.)
Maretti — consistency is a sign of professionalism. :smile12:
Redweight also gave a lot of positive emotions with his "resurrection of harpies in the Dragon Utopia"))).
I think I won't soon forget the magnificent game on Jebus Cross between Amil vs Tvaryn!!!

Thanks to the organizers for letting us see this wonderful tournament! Thanks to the players for the most interesting games, the suspense until the very end, and special thanks to the streamers and restreamers (Sem, Shizohrenik, Merlin, Tvaryn, Ikhtiandr, sorry if I forgot anyone).
And from myself, I can add that such tournaments give an incentive to improve. Just participating in this tournament, making it into the top 10, means you've achieved something in Heroes. And thanks to HeroesWorld for the number of tournaments they run. Fun is fun, but no matter how you look at it, the motivation in a tournament is many times higher!
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Vitaly, congratulations! Excellent victory!
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The initial idea of castle distribution is great.
It implied that everyone would be on equal footing.
Therefore, the idea would be even better if all players not only played as all 9 factions, but also played against all 9 factions. Then everyone would be on equal footing. And not like this, where some played against Fortress, Swamp, Necropolis, and Dungeon, while others played against Inferno and Tower.
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