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#813
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VesperLindt
You redirected me to Gur? Why?
What a scoundrel! Although, what else could one expect from the Black Widow?

Thank you all for the game.
Koshe for the set, tea, and the opportunity to finally play Mafia with Vesper (we somehow never ended up on the same Mafia team).
Morni, Sivu, Yaschur, and Arandor for the key decisions that made the game what it was.
Nebka for the notes.
Somafam for the company. Knowing my tendency to take the lead, I tried to restrain myself. I apologize if I did anything wrong.
To everyone else, thank you for the fun! )
Alexa, congratulations on the win.

And, Yaschur, seriously, stop accusing me based on other people's clues

I also have something to say about the journalist.
1. I didn't like that the journalist sends their turn until the end of the night. Because of this, I saw the questions 2 hours before the night ended, but I could have seen them later. Luckily, I came home earlier than planned, and we managed to answer at least something. But what if not? The newspaper could have been delayed for another half a day. Besides, this reveals the identity of the person being questioned – whoever isn't there is probably the one delaying the newspaper.
My suggestion is to give the journalist one day to send the questions, and give the person being questioned the night to answer. Or make it a night action with a delay of one turn. That is, night 1 – the journalist questions player 1, night 2 – the journalist questions player 2, player 1 answers the questions.
In the first case, the role becomes unblockable; in the second case, there is a chance that the player will be eliminated from the game before they are questioned. But I still think this is a more convenient option than the current one.

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1. Provide the questions and answers in their original form, hiding the name with a pseudonym-clue (which the GM will come up with – as the Mafia rightly pointed out, the townspeople will come up with simple clues, the Mafia will come up with complex ones, but everything should be fair).
I can also add an option – everyone comes up with pseudonyms and sends them to the GM before receiving their roles. As they say, you come up with an easy pseudonym, and it turns out you're a negative role – LOL, whoever doesn't have time or doesn't want to come up with a pseudonym will have one invented for them by the GM during the game

And, of course, in the balance, consider that this is not even a status check, but a side check (if, of course, the journalist is good). Although Rimpa's questions are so good that it is unlikely that the next journalist in the next game will think of anything else )) I would just copy and paste them )

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Black Widow - Arandor - night 1: Poisoning those who come to Evil Yaschur
for the second game in a row, those who visit Yaschur on the first night are in for a surprise
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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And in Green Little Man, they just nuked Yashchur with an ult))) Though, on the second night. On the first, they just wanted to kill Alex.
I'm starting to think that both Alex and Yashchur are on Arco's blacklist for some unknown reason))

As for the journalist.
I believe that the questions and answers should be published in the form they were originally. Questions can be sent during the day, and answers will be received by night. This Action of the journalist itself should come before all others, and in case of his death, the interview will still be published. In my opinion, any questions can be asked, except those that openly reveal a role. However, there is a very subtle point here; for example, would I get an answer to the question: "Are you going to kill someone tonight?"
One false answer out of three questions is quite an interesting feature.
As for the pseudonym - clues. Not bad, let the GM think about it. But. In this case, we get a townie with a clue, which means there must be a reason to find and kill him. Consequently, the journalist needs to be buffed, as we won't even know in the end who he visited. I think it's worth expanding the scope of possible questions so that he can take down a mafia player, even with one false answer, by forcing them to expose themselves.
It would also be good to do this: if the journalist is killed by the mafia players, then a list of players he visited is published in the newspaper.
In the end, in my opinion, it will result in an interesting kind of check.

Thanks everyone for the game!

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Heroist
However, there's a very subtle point here. For example, will I get an answer to the question: "Are you going to kill someone tonight?"
In my opinion, you will. After all, this doesn't reveal the role.
Heroist
In this case, we get a town member with a clue, which means there should be a reason to find and kill him. Therefore, the journalist needs to be strengthened.
I don't understand the logical connection. What does the town member, who needs to be killed based on the clue (and why, by the way?), have to do with strengthening the journalist?
Heroist
because we won't even know who he visited in the end.
Why make things so complicated? If the GM wanted everyone to know who the journalist visited, he wouldn't bother with pseudonyms and would use the real nicknames of the people being questioned.
Heroist
I think it would be worth increasing the range of possible questions so that he can expose the Mafia, even with just one false answer, forcing them to reveal themselves.
Have you read Rimp's questions? There, the negative role is 100% exposed; how can you increase the range even further?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Ugh, yes, I messed up. But, honestly, it's not that important.

Besides, what if they can't figure out the clues from questioning the suspect? Let there be accurate information at the time of the journalist's death.

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Then yes, everything is fine in principle. A good, interesting role for the city.

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#817
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Heroist
Just in case the clues about the person being questioned aren't guessed. Let there be accurate info upon the journalist's death.
Then it turns out to be too strong a check. This is a balance tilt in favor of the city. As a compensation option, I suggest a couple of negative roles with ND (Dimension Door?) "if a journalist comes to me, redirect them far away to another character". But here the problem of turn time arises again, i.e., this redirection must also be done during the day.

By the way, the clue about the person being questioned was never guessed in this game. I can't say that it upset me )
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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#818
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However, what else could one expect from Black Widow?
Black widower.
The Mafia turned out to be quite interesting! The city's composition was promising, but they made some mistakes and almost all of their promising players were eliminated on the third night (From my point of view, this was due to: too obvious reveals by the city roles, too successful executions for the first two days (which would have been forgivable if we had executed negatives from DIFFERENT teams). However, I initially had the thought not to execute Var (although for a different reason, I didn't know his role for sure and had been harassing him before. I dared to hope that he wasn't a Web, although the latest newspaper at that time almost refuted this). But, as it is, so it is.
Arandor, I have a separate conversation for you, you tried very hard to pretend to be a town member in the chat, and in general, you were a good killer; I would give you the title of best player in this Mafia. There were many outstanding players here, but of all of them, you lasted the longest, until the very end, managing to fully reveal yourself.)
I didn't like that the journalist sends his move until the end of the night. Because of this, I saw the questions 2 hours before the night closed, and I could have seen them later.
Yes, that's a drawback. You noticed this very accurately, Sesam.
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if a journalist comes to me, redirect him far away to another person
Haha, and let the journalist himself not know about it, but only guess based on the answers and the clue)))
 

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#819
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for the second game in a row, those who visit Yashur on the first night will be in for a surprise
The saddest part is that I was choosing between Heroist, Sesam, Rimp, and Yashur, and I chose the one that no one visited (
Heroist, what blacklist? Besides, Yashur doesn't die from my ultimate; I was actually protecting him). In general, this ND was the most optimal move in the first turn, considering the cooldowns of the other two.

managing to fully reveal himself
I'm lucky with poison roles, which I don't like. Maybe this is the only time I've managed to play a poisoner well.

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#820
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The saddest thing is that I was choosing between Heroes, Sesam, Rimp, and Yashur, and I chose the one that no one visited.

Heh) Okay, okay. Now, no one will ever visit Yashur again =)
The ultimate ability in the Green Man also captivated everyone who visited Yashur.

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#821
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Evil Lizard
They figured out the clue. But no one paid attention to it.
So, I should have insisted. Although I didn't really like that solution.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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Morni, Sivu, Yashura, and Arandor deserve recognition for the key decisions that shaped the game into what it became.
You're welcome, Sesam!
The game was simply amazing. I haven't seen such intense competition between the maniacs, the mafia, and the city in a long time. I won't even tell you how heated this confrontation was. Undoubtedly, each side deserved to win, but unfortunately, even though I was blocking AlexIgol so that Aretz could pull through, our Eagle still emerged victorious. Isn't that a well-deserved victory, despite all the circumstances? I think it is. Huge thanks for the game, in short.
Special thanks to Koshe for the fantastic set: beautiful, elegant, consistent, and even the roles of the characters are in the same color scheme – it's beyond praise.
Well, that's all, basically.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#823
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Morning
So, I should have insisted.
I didn't want to execute him.;) He could have been useful. And he was useful in a way...:smile26:
Sesame
And, Yashur, seriously, stop accusing me based on other people's evidence
Sorry, that's beyond me...:D:D:D
Sesame
For the second game in a row, those who visit Yashur on the first night are in for a surprise
That's right. Otherwise, only killers are around while the defenders visit the mafia and the maniacs.:(:(:(
Heroist
Now, no one will ever visit Yashur again =)
That's right. It's better if no one visits at all.:smile38:

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Siverfale
I also blocked AlexIla so that Aretz could win.
Hmm... And I removed the block so that he could eliminate the widow...:D If only Arandor's armor had been removed in time...:smile05:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#824
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Yashchur was blatantly siding with Alexa.
А, вот почему.

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#825
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and they also say that I have a blacklist.

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#826
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Drakkosha
Yashchur was blatantly siding with Alexa.
Well, what can you do. Sylvan – Arandor, I – Alexa. :D And in general, I tried to do what was best for the city.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#827
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I don't like lists, but I'll remember the redirect *flies away again*.