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On Android, everything lags; I demand a PDA version :D
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Wicc
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The name seems a bit off.
If the idea was to create a website for this forum, maybe it should have been named accordingly? heroesworld.com, hw.com, etc.
Will there be an English version of the site?
The optimal niche is an interface overlay for Heroes websites in general. Something like HDMod, but for websites. It could look something like this:
- When entering the result of a seasonal game, you can select checkboxes to choose which website's ranking the report will be submitted to (currently - HW, VT, HP). If something else appears, the functionality can be easily expanded.
- The report is automatically submitted to the seasonal ranking threads of the specified websites, in addition to being registered on SnL.
- It's not yet clear how to handle confirmations if one player uses SnL and the other doesn't. Initially, this will probably have to be done manually, but in the future, SnL could be established as an official reporting point, and confirmations could be made directly there.
- Separately, you can specify that the game is a tournament game, indicating the tournament topic. SnL moderators will have to quickly track the opening of new tournaments and create corresponding menu items for them.
- For tournament games, there should be a checkbox "only in tournament / in tournament and in season," and also provide an option to post in a tournament on one website and in a season on another, and also games in 2 tournaments at the same time (there are people who like to save time)
=Lizard=
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Please explain, in simple terms, what the purpose of a seasonal ranking system will be in various leagues, given that there are already centralized reports. Wouldn't it be simpler to just create a single overall ranking table?
Wicc
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Please explain to a dummy: what will be the purpose of a seasonal rating in various leagues when centralized reports already exist? Wouldn't it be simpler to just create a general rating table as well?
Noom
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I think it should be possible to ban users on a specific resource, along with their rating.
StickyFingaz
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Relying on a specific site is ideologically not quite right.
Wicc
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And I think such a heavy dependence of the community on a single site is wrong. There are pros to this, but there are also cons — dependence on the site owner, on the hosting, on the whims of the administrators, etc.
Over the years of being involved in online communities, I have observed and participated in several complete cycles of birth, development, and decline of forums on various topics. Recent examples are ХБ and ХП. The concentration of social activity, all else being equal, accelerates the natural course of events — at first it contributes to a rapid growth of the forum, but later it also accelerates the processes of degradation.
Therefore, for the stability of the community (after all, it is the community that holds the greatest value, not specific sites), it is desirable to have several supporting platforms — this reduces the intensity of turmoil and also forces the management of individual platforms to act with an eye on competitors and not become complacent.
For example, at the moment, the ХВ orgs are positively influenced by Пит, НумВан, Скорпиона, and maybe a couple of other people. So as long as they keep their finger on the pulse of events, the train won't go off the tracks (or will do so slowly). But if for some reason they step down, reduce their activity, or fall into some kind of heresy, and the second-tier orgs (like R55Max) start dictating the policy of the online трешка, then a sad turn of events is inevitable.
Over the years of being involved in online communities, I have observed and participated in several complete cycles of birth, development, and decline of forums on various topics. Recent examples are ХБ and ХП. The concentration of social activity, all else being equal, accelerates the natural course of events — at first it contributes to a rapid growth of the forum, but later it also accelerates the processes of degradation.
Therefore, for the stability of the community (after all, it is the community that holds the greatest value, not specific sites), it is desirable to have several supporting platforms — this reduces the intensity of turmoil and also forces the management of individual platforms to act with an eye on competitors and not become complacent.
For example, at the moment, the ХВ orgs are positively influenced by Пит, НумВан, Скорпиона, and maybe a couple of other people. So as long as they keep their finger on the pulse of events, the train won't go off the tracks (or will do so slowly). But if for some reason they step down, reduce their activity, or fall into some kind of heresy, and the second-tier orgs (like R55Max) start dictating the policy of the online трешка, then a sad turn of events is inevitable.
StickyFingaz
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dependence on the site owner
hosting
tyranny of the managers
HP
HB
forces the management of individual platforms to act with an eye on competitors, not to grow stale.
For example, at the moment, the HV orgs are beneficially influenced by Pit, NumOne, Scorpiona, and maybe a couple of other people, so while they keep their finger on the pulse of events, the train won't go off the rails (or will do so slowly). But if for some reason they step away from business or reduce their activity or fall into some kind of heresy, and the policy of online-treshka starts being determined by second-echelon orgs (like R55Max), then a sad turn of events is inevitable.
explaining the advantages of a large international community, I hope, is pointless?
Lider1
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Well, everyone has their own interests. As for me, I'm personally waiting for a post from Max.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
scorp
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- it should be noted that the game is a tournament, with the topic of the tournament specified. For this, SnL moderators will have to promptly monitor the opening of new tournaments and create corresponding menu items for them.
P.S. If such a website, uniting all resources, appears, could this be the first step towards a WCG?! or something similar?
StickyFingaz
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If a website that brings together all the resources were to appear, it could be the first step.
In short, I love both games equally – Age of Empires 2 and Heroes 3 – and have been following the scene for about 5 years now. For those who don't know, Age of Empires, although not as iconic as Heroes, was quite popular in its time (released in 1999). Then, just like with Heroes, the developers abandoned it, and about two years ago, both games were in a similar, rather sad state. Here's a brief timeline:
Age of Empires:
Autumn 2012 – Fans collect signatures for a petition to the developers (Microsoft) to release the game in an HD version. Around the same time, the development of a fan-made mod, similar to "HotA" for Heroes, is announced: adding new factions, balancing, etc. The balance is adjusted with the direct involvement of top players, and advertising is done on all social networks, YouTube, streams, etc.
January 2013 – Microsoft announces work on an HD version and its release on Steam in April. The fan-made mod is released, and thanks to its strong promotion on social networks, it is downloaded by approximately 500,000 people in a couple of months.
April 2013 – The HD version is released on Steam. For a couple of weeks, Age of Empires is among the top-selling games, and on the day of its release, it is the best-selling game. The game was released with some bugs, which the developers fixed as they were found.
Summer 2013 – Microsoft announces the start of cooperation with the developers of the fan-made mod, and "HotA" for Age of Empires is released as an official game this autumn.
Heroes:
Early 2012 – It seems that WoT was still holding its ground, but even then, it became clear that it was a dead end, and they left. HD, on the other hand, was just beginning its journey to success.
Now – WoT seems to have completely faded away. In HD, nothing has been implemented that would really help to promote Heroes, attract new players, etc. Interface improvements are, of course, good, but the mod has much greater potential.
So, what I'm getting at is that Heroes 3 could also have "come back to life" more than a decade after its creation if the community had been less... [I can't find the right word]... and had focused on the right things. And here I am, reading your petty squabbles, and I find it both amusing and sad at the same time.
Wicc
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Fail. If the community isn't very active, like on Bay, it will gather enough money for hosting in a couple of days.
Fail. Neither Gorbik nor <whoever was at Bay> looked around (see: incompetence).
It's just that time took its toll; Balamut moved on to real life (2008 or 2009), and an alternative appeared – the VT website. Therefore, Bay simply lost its niche, and the Bay community migrated to VT and HW.
If the VT website hadn't existed, Bay would have simply been passed on to someone else who knew how to manage websites, and the center of the TE/VT movement would still be there.
~ self-willed management ~ dependence on the website owner. An entire paragraph of wordiness, fail. If a small community has bad admins, it cannot become a large community. On the other hand, a large community has the ability to weed out bad admins, see the story with Hacker.
I hope it's not necessary to explain the advantages of a large international community?
The_
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Great idea, good implementation, there are many rough edges, but the main thing is that if the enthusiasm doesn't fade, I think that soon there will be something perfect and new, especially if it is possible to introduce an automatic rating system, which I consider critically necessary (to simplify the work of moderators and users). Also, if an automatic rating is introduced, it would be good to create a distinction between seasonal games and tournaments, with priority given to the latter.
Ikhtiandr, you're great!
P.S. I don't remember if there is a section on the site where you can direct financial assistance to the resource. If not, I think it would also be worth adding, I'm sure there will be people willing to support the resource.
Ikhtiandr, you're great!
P.S. I don't remember if there is a section on the site where you can direct financial assistance to the resource. If not, I think it would also be worth adding, I'm sure there will be people willing to support the resource.
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Roger DAltavilla
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What does the rating signify? What is its purpose? What practical problems is this rating intended to solve?!
For example, I have a constant rating of 1488, and a seasonal rating of 1502. Meanwhile, the player marader-kisa has a constant rating of 1476 and a seasonal rating of 1541. What conclusions can be drawn from comparing these figures?
For instance, in chess, a certain rating is a prerequisite for obtaining a lifetime title or for selection in a tournament. But what is its purpose in our case? Just to see a picture from the game next to your nickname?
Regarding the website: a major drawback is that it is maintained by a single person; as soon as their enthusiasm runs out, the website will cease to exist. And currently, the website is 90% or more filled with information from other forums.
For example, I have a constant rating of 1488, and a seasonal rating of 1502. Meanwhile, the player marader-kisa has a constant rating of 1476 and a seasonal rating of 1541. What conclusions can be drawn from comparing these figures?
For instance, in chess, a certain rating is a prerequisite for obtaining a lifetime title or for selection in a tournament. But what is its purpose in our case? Just to see a picture from the game next to your nickname?
Regarding the website: a major drawback is that it is maintained by a single person; as soon as their enthusiasm runs out, the website will cease to exist. And currently, the website is 90% or more filled with information from other forums.
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