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Please, don't compare Heroes 5 with the great The Elder Scrolls. They have nothing in common. Look at the dark elves in TES III Morrowind and the dark elves in Heroes 5. The difference is obvious. In TES, the dark elves are normal (patriarchy, etc.), while in Heroes, they have a phase shift (matriarchy, etc.). In TES III, they worship daedra and aedra, as well as the Great Tribunal or the Almsivi. And in Heroes 5, they worship some dragons.
Well, look: everywhere there are elves, from what world were they copied?
everywhere there are dragons, from where?
everywhere there are orcs and similar orcs (barbarians, etc.),
you'll say that they (orcs) weren't copied from the ancient
barbarians:)
In my opinion, all these fantasy races are a parody of Earth's races. So should we blame everyone for plagiarism?
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And what can you do? Another scandal wouldn't hurt. I saw in the news that some American farmers went to court to try to overturn Newton's law of gravity!
Добро- Не цель, а средство, Зло- Дорога к цели...
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If you look at it, the Dark Elf race isn't that new; it's a reworked Dungeon faction.
Well, that's debatable. In Heroes 5, only the minotaurs and black dragons remained from the previous Dungeon faction in Heroes 3.
Look: elves exist everywhere; from what world were they copied?
Dragons exist everywhere; where did they come from?
Orcs and similar races (barbarians, etc.) exist everywhere;
are you saying that they weren't copied from ancient
barbarians?
In my opinion, all these fantasy races are parodies of Earth's races. So, should we blame everyone for plagiarism?

I'm saying that in Heroes 5, they twisted the concepts of races.
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Please don't compare Heroes 5 with the great The Elder Scrolls. They have nothing in common. Look at the dark elves in TES III Morrowind and the dark elves in Heroes 5. The difference is obvious. In TES, the dark elves are normal (patriarchy, etc.), while in Heroes, they have a phase shift (matriarchy, etc.). In TES III, they worship daedra and aedra, as well as the Great Tribunal or the Almsivi. And in Heroes 5, they worship some dragons.

Look at the dark elves in Salvatore's works. In Heroes 5, they differ only in skin color and the name of their patron goddess.

P.S. And there's no need to criticize the matriarchy. IMHO, it's a perfectly progressive system; women are better at developing society, that's just how they are. The main thing is not to confuse it with dominance. ;)
" Тьма - рука правая Света , Свет - рука левая Тьмы "
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I'm saying that in Heroes 5, they twisted the concepts of races.
Concept, concept:confused: So many people, so many opinions. And in general, if all games made races according to templates, it wouldn't be interesting to play.;)
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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I played Heroes 5 and realized that Nival either lacks creativity or is being pressured by the publishers (which is understandable, as publishers want something similar to the previous installments). The factions are so similar to those from the third part (although the Dark Elves are an exception; they resemble the Fortress faction), that it's surprising. In my opinion, Heroes 5 is a reinterpretation of the third game. The racial aspect only confirms this statement.
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Look at the dark elves in Salvatore's works. In Heroes 5, they differ only in skin color and the name of their patron goddess.

P.S. And there's no need to criticize the Matriarchy. IMHO, it's a perfectly progressive system; women are better at developing society, it's just how they are. The main thing is not to confuse it with dominance ;)
But still, I'm against it:mad: Dark elves shouldn't differ from others in their social structure.
Conceptually, it's a concept. There are as many opinions as there are people. And in general, if all races in games were made according to templates, it wouldn't be interesting to play.
Actually, everything is based on myths. Would you really want to see an elf in the form of a dog or a wyvern?
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I like their matriarchy there :-)
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Actually, everything is created based on myths. Would you really want to see an elf in the form of a dog, or a wyvern?

First of all, I can't even imagine who would have such a crazy idea to make them like that. The creators still have brains. ;)
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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But I'm still against it:mad: Dark Elves shouldn't be different from others in terms of social structure.

Actually, everything is based on myths. Would you really want to see an elf as a dog or a wyvern?

Why shouldn't they be different? Each race has its own worldview. If you don't like the matriarchy, play as the Haven faction; they even have an inquisition. And I'm going to enjoy mowing down those inquisitors, in memory of the witch hunts.
" Тьма - рука правая Света , Свет - рука левая Тьмы "
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I'll join in :-)
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The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
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Why shouldn't this be interesting? Each race has its own worldview. If you don't like the matriarchy, play as the Whitecloaks (Haven); they even have an inquisition. And I will enjoy mowing down these inquisitors, in memory of the witch hunts.
I want to play as dark elves, but the creators made their worldview unacceptable :(
Otherwise, I'd rather join the sylvan elves. It's a pity they turned them into barbarians :(
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But why is it unacceptable???????? Girls can perfectly figure everything out on their own, without you! For example, I really like their worldview!
I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!
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But why is it unacceptable?????????? Girls can perfectly figure everything out on their own, without you! For example, I really like their worldview!
Well, because you're a girl, and I'd rather be in charge:) :D
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you already rule in all the remaining factions! I think that having one faction with a matriarchal system is fair!!! Otherwise, it seems like some kind of chauvinism!
I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!

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