Posts from Let's talk about our Red Rush strategy... Auto-translated

Feb 19, 2013 – The state of Mississippi ratified the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution... The amendment, which prohibited slavery...

On the other hand, three simple questions were asked here, and for some reason, no one answered them. I'll answer them myself:).

Question 1. What prevents Red from attacking Blue on Sunday (117, 127, etc.)?
Answer:): It's pointless because there's no growth, no advantage over Blue:)(the smile doesn't fit on the monitor).

Question 2. What prevents Red from attacking Blue on Monday (121, 131, etc.), but without growth?
Answer:): Read the answer to question 1:).

Question 3. What prevents Red from attacking Blue on Tuesday (122, 132, etc.) with growth?
Answer:): And this is just stupid, because Blue also gets growth, so Red's efforts are in vain, it's frustrating, and again, there's no advantage.:)

Conclusion: AAAAAAHHHH, Blue is so bad, you just can't attack him with an overpowered advantage!:) What a scoundrel and villain, Blue is:).

Does RR mean that Blue MUST, SHOULD, etc., die?

Answer CONCRETELY to all 3 questions? Just no fluff.

Or let's allow RR, but take away 1 restart from Red, and let's see what they'll say:).

I could be wrong, of course, but RR on 121 is practically impossible, as the English say; here, the red player needs a mega-lucky layout to break through to blue, and on almost all L and XL maps, contact begins later. If I'm wrong, lay it out. So on the RR issue, either allow it or not, and by week 3, the role of Griffin Conservatories, Dragon Fly Hives, Pandora's Boxes, and so on already kicks in.

Message from PReDS:
The thing is, you're engaging in bare theorizing, with which you can pour tons of water for either side and prove nothing. Vic, on the other hand, is referencing many years of experience participating in and running tournaments on the templates being discussed. The principle: "Practice is the criterion of truth" — he didn't invent it.

- when playing with control on any of the 7 days, Red risks being attacked without mana, which is usually more important than the weekly growth, and is forced to take this into account in his actions.

Message from =Stinger=:
Vic already wrote earlier that for many years on other sites they played without banning RR and there were no complaints about it.

I won't be baseless if I say that in the Chaos League, on the bay, and in the CIS tournaments listed by Vic, games mostly ended by week 3-4! I won't even bring up games on WT, where the game often ends by the end of week 2. And this is by no means due to RR being allowed. There simply wasn't this habit of "hoarding," and hoarders were killed right at their respawn.

What is happening now on HeroesWorld (I judge again from streams and reports).
Games end on average in month 2!

Message from Wicc:
I've already typed out more than a kilobyte of text in over a dozen posts here, justifying my position. But you apparently don't even read them. And if you do read them, you don't bother to comment, just droning on about your April Theses from an armored car.

3.1. Red-rush is prohibited, i.e., a player playing as red is not allowed to attack on the first day of the week with reinforcements purchased on that day:
a) on the blue's Castle (even if the Castle is not guarded);
b) on blue's heroes or guarded mines, if the presence of reinforcements can affect the outcome of the battle or losses in the battle for either player.
* Troops that come with purchased heroes, as well as troops from Outposts ("Niches"), Pandora's Boxes, Summoning Portals, etc., can be used without restrictions.
* The concept of red-rush does not apply if both heroes end up on opposite sides of the Portal or Underground Gate during the attack.

3.1. Red-rush is prohibited: a player playing as red is prohibited from attacking on the first day of the week with reinforcements purchased on that day:
a) on the blue's Castle (even if the Castle is not guarded); *
b) on blue's heroes or guarded mines, if the presence of reinforcements can affect the outcome of the battle or losses in the battle for either player.

The concept of red-rush does not apply when the players' heroes end up on opposite sides of the Portal or Underground Gate during the attack, if the red player cannot see where the blue hero is. **

Clarification 1. Reinforcements are considered to be:
troops that appear at the beginning of a new week in the cities (towns) of the player or in the cities (towns) of the opponent (human or computer) captured on that day;

Clarification 2. The following are not considered reinforcements and can be used without restrictions:
troops not purchased in the previous week;
troops from neutral cities and towns captured on that day;
troops that come with purchased heroes and heroes from freed prisons;
troops from Outposts ("niches") and troops from Summoning Portals;
troops from Pandora's Boxes, Griffin Conservatories, Serpent Nests, Seer Huts, Refugee Camps.

Clarification 3. It is allowed to upgrade any troops.

Clarification 4. If it is impossible to distinguish old troops from reinforcement troops (mixing in a hero or in a Castle), it is considered that the reinforcements are lost in battles with neutrals. Until the reinforcements are mixed with old troops, they are considered reinforcements, regardless of the losses of the old army. ***

Clarification 5. In a game involving more than two human players, the rule applies consistently to other colors (blue-rush, brown-rush...). In a game with alliances, reinforcements also include the reinforcements of the ally. ****

Why are there more stringent requirements for attacking a Castle?

There's no need for that because, in that way, blue could specifically block the portal/underground gate, hindering red, for example, from bringing troops to the main hero.

And if red sees it, what changes in your logic?

Pete's suggestion is aimed at preventing accidental red rushes, where someone is moving along and suddenly initiates a red rush.