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All of this was invented by those who want to lure new slaves to their mines in Africa and Australia, and to that continent depicted in the picture, which actually doesn't exist. And everyone who supposedly leaves for that place ends up somewhere else.

I know, I just gave you the first link I found when you asked for it. The information there may be incorrect, but it does contain the term "Australia," and that's all you need from that link.

If it's a different place, then it's not Australia, but some other place.

Actually, it is Australia. Whatever object or place it may be, it is called Australia because people call it Australia.

We agreed that I would take the position of a nihilist, and you would try to prove some elementary thing to me. For example, the existence of Australia.

Oh, yes, I forgot, you write very naturally.

Well, in that outburst, I didn't see a single argument or refutation. Just insults. The main part of the forum consists of educated people (I know at least five techies for sure). And your mockery regarding the "professor" is perceived as somewhat boorish. You communicate using criminal slang (half of your words, if you look up their meanings, will have a note indicating they are criminal slang). You would get your mouth ripped open for using such words (apparently, you're an expert in that regard). You probably got into some trouble, then after the incident, you decided to get tough and got your mouth ripped open again. Now, Gasik is with a knife... Almost all the athletes (not runners) I know respect track and field. So, Gasik is an inadequate athlete with a knife. I'm not going anywhere... I'm actually doing fine here; it's okay.

Haha, Australia – do you really believe it exists? You're just crazy, a clown; mushrooms must have eaten your brain if you believe in such nonsense as the existence of Australia.

Well, Africa probably doesn't exist either. Nor does America. Or Eurasia. And neither does Earth. And we are just mathematical models in some divine supercomputer. Congratulations to all of you.

Guys, please stop. Anyway, this is just pointless chatter. Say everything to each other in ICQ, Skype, or somewhere else. P.S. I'm even afraid to say that I was in Donetsk on February 13, 2013, at the Donbass Arena in the Borussia fan zone, and I was also rooting for them: confused: :D

grabbed a beer and some chips... but seriously, is there no way to communicate privately? Or is it still a concert with requests? This is for Yegor and Gasik.

We need to set up an Aripurta's Well here. We'll ask him questions, and he'll answer us, open his eyes, share his wisdom, and fill our hearts with love. I'll start.

Aripurta, what is your attitude towards neo-Nazis? Whose hand would you shake — Stalin's or Hitler's? When you watched Schindler's List, what emotions did you feel?

Since when is Donetsk a city of heroes?

Happy holiday, Cosmonautics Day!

Everyone believes or doesn't believe in something based on their knowledge, experience, and so on. It is advisable to filter the incoming information.

And genetically modified organisms are indeed very dangerous.
If you stuff a genetically modified tomato into a person's throat, they will most likely die within a few minutes.
In addition, the juice of this tomato, when injected intravenously, caused a severe allergic reaction in laboratory rats, accompanied by sepsis and an inevitable, agonizing death for the unfortunate creatures.
We also cannot forget about the cases of people dying in a warehouse of genetically modified zucchini, where a shelf with boxes of these very zucchini collapsed. A similar incident that occurred in a warehouse with natural products, packaged in smaller boxes, only led to a minor concussion and minor fractures of the limbs of the victims.
It has been experimentally proven that laboratory mice, which were fed exclusively genetically modified grapes for six months, at the end of the experiment could not see not only genetically modified grapes, but also any other grapes at all.

And you can also find other interesting facts on the internet:
- According to statistics, 40% of tomatoes grown using genetic engineering reciprocate when people practice kissing on them.
- It turns out that in McDonald's, genetically modified vegetables are not only sold but also work.

And the harsh reality:

He has a GMO sign on his chest,
Now, nothing is known about him.

We need to set up an Ariputra's well here. We'll ask him questions, and he'll answer us, open our eyes, share his wisdom, and fill our hearts with love.

you made my day :D :D

We need to set up an Ariputra well here. We'll ask him questions, and he'll answer us, open our eyes, share his wisdom, and fill our hearts with love. I'll start.

no well, I don't want that, give me a little house in a village on a riverbank, then maybe I'll start answering questions :))

I can only fill your heart with what is in my heart, there is no wisdom or, even more so, love (what kind of skill is that?) in there, are you going to take Logistics and Offense at level 1? Lol)

Since when is Donetsk a hero city?

Since when? Since the Donetsk Shakhtar – together with the Donbas Brazilians, the Romanian coach, and the American money – won the European Champions League.

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Cop, in short, you still haven't proven to me that Australia exists.

And you won't be able to prove it, I will simply never admit it, as a result of which everything you write, all your attempts are fruitless – due to the nihilistic position I have taken to show that if a person does not want to believe in something, it is simply impossible to prove it to them; it's a waste of time.

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Kalababa wanted proof of the consequences of GMOs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrhHsZFE7cg - an 8-minute video about the consequences of GMOs

(I don't know if it will satisfy you or not, but it contains quite interesting information reported by, for example, a Doctor of Biological Sciences, who was subsequently fired, like many other scientists in this field, for what they reveal)

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35 years ago, Stanford University scientist Paul Berg combined into a single whole 2 genes isolated from different organisms – then for the first time in the history of our civilization, the original genetic code of an organism was changed – as a result of the experiment, a hybrid was obtained that had not previously been found in nature.

Thus, modified tobacco was invented, and just a few years later, the industry of Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) began to develop.

Very soon, scientists realized that thanks to genetic modification, plants and vegetables become frost-resistant, last longer, and insects don't eat them.

Olga Butakova - dietitian, Chief Physician of the Institute of Health Restoration.

"If into the gene - into the DNA molecule of a potato or any other vegetable, you insert, for example, a poisonous petunia gene - which is a terrible toxic poison - and not a single insect in the world consumes it, then all these vegetables, fruits, legumes - will be deadly dangerous for insects.

And obeying the instinct for life - insects do not eat genetically modified products - as a result, yield increases tens, hundreds of times." In this case, by adding petunia - a toxic poison.

In 1994, the world was presented with a genetic engineering development - tomato genes were crossed with flounder fish genes; previously this was only written about in science fiction books, and today ketchups of a well-known brand (for example Hellman's, Heinz) are made from such tomatoes.

A human liver gene is added to rice seeds for greater resistance to pests; the genetic code of potatoes contains a snowdrop gene.

Irina Ermakova - Doctor of Biological Sciences, Leading Researcher at the Institute of Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

"In fact, it is very scary - because what genes, where they will end up and whether the body needs them, how they will affect our body no one really knows"

In total, about 1000 genetically modified crops have been developed in the world, but only 100 of them are allowed (ariputra: they are allowed with the aim of using GMOs as a tool leading to infertility, sterilization of the nation) for industrial production.

The most common (tomatoes, rice, potatoes, wheat, corn, soybeans, etc.)

Alexander Baranov - Candidate of Biological Sciences, President of the National Association for Genetic Safety

"Unfortunately, in the world, the process of controlling the spread of genetically modified organisms has spiraled out of control – that is, there is a genetic contamination of the planet."

Olga Butakova - dietitian, Chief Physician of the Institute of Health Restoration.

"Leading world companies even make baby food genetically modified, baby creams, baby pastes, candies, chocolate bars containing peanuts and so on, all of this is a genetically modified product."

Irina Ermakova - Doctor of Biological Sciences, Leading Researcher at the Institute of Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

"Of course, genetically modified components – can be contained in fast food – undoubtedly.

And there is data – data from Oxford University – that if a future father eats about 20 cheeseburgers, hamburgers then there is a high probability that his child will be born with leukemia (blood cancer).

If a schoolchild eats about 12 hamburgers – then they may also eventually be diagnosed with leukemia, that is, the probability of the disease increases significantly."

Not long ago, an examination of the products of a very well-known fast food chain was conducted (ariputra: probably meaning McDonald's).

As a result, a large number of transgenic components were found in the composition of hamburgers and milkshakes.

Olga Budina - actress

"We, you know, treat these little jars of modified food very carelessly, we don't read [the labels], even if we read them – we can still buy, because you think – well, maybe it'll be okay.

We need to, a little, somehow overcome our mentality – to be more consistent in our love for children – first of all, for our loved ones – and not eat either modified food, or any food belonging to the fast food category."

Irina Ermakova - Doctor of Biological Sciences, Leading Researcher at the Institute of Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

"Eat once, even if you eat it for a month – nothing terrible, but if you eat these transgenic products once a day for 3 years – then it will inevitably lead to serious diseases

Although if a person is not very healthy, then such symptoms of diseases can manifest much faster – it can happen even after 2 weeks or even after a few days."

Alexander Baranov - Candidate of Biological Sciences, President of the National Association for Genetic Safety

"In our intestines, for example, up to 500 different species of microorganisms are contained. The detection of these genetic inserts, which freely wander in our body and their integration into the genetic apparatus of our body, leads to the fact that these microorganisms begin to produce non-specific proteins – proteins that our body does not recognize."

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Scientists from the Russian Institute of Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology - conducted a simple experiment on rats – in their morphology and biochemistry, they are very similar to humans. One group of rodents was fed genetically modified products, the second group – the control group – was fed regular food.

After 3 months in the blood of the rats of the first group, an increased content of white blood cells was detected, the structure of the brain changed, the kidneys decreased in size and their functions were impaired – but that's not the most important thing.

Irina Ermakova - Doctor of Biological Sciences, Leading Researcher at the Institute of Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

"And what was my surprise when more than 50% of the rat pups died in the first generation – they died within 3 weeks. It was actually a very scary picture – when I later tried to get a second generation, here again I was met with such, shall we say, unpleasant news – because I did not get a second generation. And this became even scarier – those rat pups that survived – they turned out to be infertile ."

In 2004 in Belgium, at the forum of NATO member countries, a sensational statement was made:

Genetically Modified Organisms can be used as clinical and biological weapons .[/COLOR]

That is, the very fact of the possibility of using GMOs as a weapon was acknowledged there.

Now 98% of all food imported into Russia is either GMOs or of the lowest quality. Russia no longer has its own agriculture. Russia is a completely subsidized country in terms of food.

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But the brave warriors of Heroes World, led by Petenka who thinks he made a very original joke :) , are undaunted, they laugh in the face of danger :)

Like a child bravely sticking its fingers into an electrical socket - the brave warriors of Heroes World bravely laugh at danger and bravely reject everything that contradicts their life experience.

Genetically modified organisms are indeed very dangerous.
If you stuff a genetically modified tomato into a person's throat, they will most likely die within a few minutes.
Furthermore, the juice of this tomato, when injected intravenously, caused a severe allergic reaction in laboratory rats, accompanied by sepsis and an inevitable, agonizing death for the unfortunate creatures.
We also cannot forget the cases of people dying in a warehouse of genetically modified zucchini, where a shelf collapsed, burying them under boxes of these very zucchini. A similar incident that occurred in a warehouse with natural products, packaged in smaller boxes, only resulted in a minor concussion and minor fractures of the limbs of the victims.
It has been experimentally proven that laboratory mice, which were fed exclusively genetically modified grapes for six months, at the end of the experiment could not see not only genetically modified grapes, but any other grapes at all.

And you can also find other interesting facts on the internet:
- According to statistics, 40% of tomatoes grown using genetic engineering reciprocate when people try to kiss them.
- It turns out that in McDonald's, genetically modified vegetables are not only sold but also work.

Indeed, there's no arguing with that.)))) And in general, the most harmful thing is life itself; people die from it

Kalababa wanted proof about the consequences of GMOs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrhHsZFE7cg - an 8-minute video about the consequences of GMOs.

But where is the proof about the population decreasing to 89 million? Or is it not customary to answer inconvenient questions? It's better to pretend you didn't hear.

Officer, you still haven't proven to me that Australia exists.

And you won't be able to prove it; I simply won't acknowledge it, which means all your efforts are futile because of the nihilistic stance I've taken to show that if a person doesn't want to believe in something, it's simply impossible to prove it to them; it's a waste of time.

No, you're right; nothing can ever be proven to you; that's a fact, and this isn't the first time it's happened in this thread. But proving <> to you, I meant providing strict evidence that meets all the basic standards and is recognized as such by any reasonably intelligent person. But if a person, despite the logic of the opponent's arguments, simply denies everything he says without any basis, as in your case, then it is impossible to prove anything to him personally; you're right.

"In reality, it's very scary because no one really knows what genes, where they will end up, and whether they are needed by the body, and how they will affect our body."

I ate a cucumber without GMOs. And after that phrase, I now live in fear because I don't know where the genes of the GMO-free cucumber will end up, whether they are needed by the body, and how they will affect my body.

"Of course, genetically modified components may be found in fast food – undoubtedly.

And there is data – data from Oxford University – that if a future father eats about 20 cheeseburgers, hamburgers, there is a high probability that his child will be born with leukemia (blood cancer).

If a schoolboy eats about 12 hamburgers, he may also develop leukemia over time; that is, the probability of the disease increases significantly."

Haha, so GMO-free hamburgers aren't harmful? I'm laughing at you.

I don't know if it will satisfy you or not, but it contains quite interesting information, for example, from a Doctor of Biological Sciences, who was later fired, as were many other scientists in this field, for telling the truth.

I guess they did the right thing; something tells me that the doctor wanted to make some money on a trendy topic (because talking about the dangers of GMOs is very fashionable in uneducated circles) and created a fake scientific study, selling out to some corporation. The result is predictable.

Currently, 98% of all food imported into Russia is either GMO or of the lowest quality. Russia no longer has its own agricultural sector. Russia is a completely subsidized country in terms of food.

I think that's an exaggerated figure, although I don't quite share Wick's optimism that everything is fine in modern Russia in terms of production and agriculture. And here's a quote from Churchill: "I thought I would die of old age. But when Russia, which fed all of Europe with bread, began to buy grain, I realized that I would die of laughter." Although, maybe things have normalized since then; I won't argue vehemently to the contrary.

:) It's simply amazing how, whether you're a cop or just slow-witted, you manage to turn everything upside down and twist it around.)

It's precisely in less educated circles, and only in them, that one can talk about the harmlessness of GMOs – because if a person has even a little knowledge about GMOs, if a person has even a little common sense, then trying to convince them of the harmlessness of genetically modified organisms is pointless.

No, everything is correct: 1) you can never prove anything to you; this is a fact, and this is not the first case in this topic. But proving <> to you is impossible. 2) I meant presenting strict evidence that meets all the main standards, and 3) that is recognized as such by any more or less competent person. 4) But if a person, despite the logical reasoning of the opponent, simply denies everything without any basis, as in your case, 5) then it is impossible to prove anything to him personally; you are right.

1) The same applies to you; I also couldn't prove anything to you because you simply denied everything, and this is also not an isolated case.

2) There was no strict evidence in what you said. You tried to change the subject, pull facts out of thin air, play with words, and speculate. But I didn't see a strict logical chain from which the existence of Australia follows.

3) "Any more or less competent person" – I haven't heard anything funnier than that yet.
There are many different competent people, and their opinions on the same issue can easily differ.

"Competence" – you use terms, but our understanding of them is different. We need to define the terms first.

4) There was very little logic in your evidence for such an elementary thing as the existence of Australia. Plus, when you argued with me, you did exactly that: you simply denied everything without any basis. So why are you so upset that I, having taken a nihilistic position, also simply denied everything without any basis?

5) which is what I was trying to prove. I'm saying that it's impossible to prove anything to someone who simply denies everything without any basis. And I don't really have that as a goal. My goal is to inform.





And why do you think that ordinary, non-GMO hamburgers are healthy? That wasn't what was said. It was said that GMO hamburgers lead to blood cancer (leukemia) and infertility. Ordinary hamburgers are also harmful, of course, but at least they don't lead to such consequences.

It's very easy for me to prove that it's impossible to prove anything to a person who doesn't want to believe anything, who has no authorities in life, and I have demonstrated this.

Even from a logical point of view, you couldn't prove the simplest thing to me – such as the existence of Australia.

And I can't prove even the simplest things. Because even the most logical arguments are simply denied. But I don't have the task of proving and convincing (it's simply beyond my capabilities). The only task is to inform those whose brains haven't been eaten by toadstools yet.

Or is your task to turn everything upside down and rewrite it?

No, it’s your task. Notice that in my posts, I always use logic and common sense. I don’t just blindly claim that everything is bad in the world, that everyone is deceiving us, that there are conspiracies, that we are all going to die, and so on. I always specifically say what is bad, what is good, and sometimes I even agree with you on something if I see common sense in it, because that is exactly what I am looking for. You always stubbornly stick to the same position, you don’t listen to anyone, and you always answer with the same words that you are accused of, which suggests an appalling stubbornness and unwillingness to think, but instead, you simply adopt the most mystical and implausible position in all matters, because the other, logical one, is necessarily, in your eyes, part of some kind of conspiracy. Therefore, regarding this phrase

I can’t even prove the simplest things.

, don’t twist it; in reality, you can’t prove simple things.
Okay, I know that, as usual in your case, this conversation will not lead to anything, because

I can’t even prove the simplest things

to you personally, but at least sometimes think about what position to take on an issue, what is logical, and what is made up to stir up the naive part of the public and increase your ratings or (and) monetary income at their expense. Okay?