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It's certainly pleasant and useful to come, listen to how a role checker is 100% sure about the Mafia affiliation of someone and someone else, and then vote for their execution.
If
1. The role checker identified one of the 3 Mafia members on the first night. 2. You immediately killed the only "old" town member (besides me). 3. You "gave up" to provocations instead of deflecting suspicion from yourself (for example, by sacrificing yourself, but then my next checks would go in a different direction).
Then the role checker is not to blame. You created the conditions for this yourself. And I couldn't just stand by and watch as they accused a Mentalist whom I knew for sure.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
It should be clear to you, as you are all MAFLOs and know each other.
"We were just throwing," note that this only happened after "confirming" my "exposure" with a modkill.
1) It's clear to everyone during the autopsy. Well, for those who don't play with their eyes closed, of course. I've seen autopsies from different perspectives, and I've even had to undergo one myself (in a game where the city captain has the right to do so, but still without the right to disclose confidential information, as is the case here).
2) They started throwing right after your statement, but not everyone did, as some had other hopes/plans (to feed me to Broikirvurlh at night, for example).
About the game.
First, I want to talk about the team. To say that I was delighted is an understatement. Decisions were truly made collectively, and roles were shared without any problems. Moreover, I owe my good performance on the last day to Vesper and Shamrock, who gathered the evidence against Dag. I consider this team to be the best one I've ever played with. We were all so evenly matched, and there was no tension at all. It's a shame that there's such a time difference with Neyra.
I also want to thank the GM. For such a crazy setting, the terrible descriptions of the last nights (they were really fun!), and endless patience.
Next, about Utro. He did a great job, especially the execution of Plesen. We were all kicking ourselves, afraid that his (mana) was gone. We even wanted to vote him out if even one town member didn't show up. However, the last night surprised me. With the switch to Ment. It would have been much more effective if it had been me! There would have been 2 vs. 2, and then a new night and a chance for a double investigation.
Mona. I really liked her game. I didn't want to kill anyone, so we waited until the last moment.
Arandor. Good night moves. I wasn't impressed during the day.
Ment. I was convinced until the very end that you were Spuiryut Fiults. And only a miracle saved me on the day of the execution. In response to your provocation about the role, I wrote a preliminary message and sent it to the team. We decided that it was okay. And the message said, "A-ta-ta, Ment, you shouldn't have revealed that I was comparing stats, ehe-he-he!". And then I remembered that I could think. And I changed everything to neutral. It worked, damn it! In general, you played really well at the end. And at the beginning, the whole town was sluggish, like a horse addicted to nicotine. I haven't watched your night investigations yet. It seems that it was really tough.
Kosha. We didn't even get to play. The thing is that you're the only one who makes the town table. And, considering the checks, it was dangerous. And I also thought you were a serious role, because you seemed very unhappy on the first day.
Dag-the-Dag. Well, you secured my victory, it's a shame that it was so easy.
Yashchur. I really didn't like the action. I really didn't like the behavior after the game. I won't discuss it, that's all.
Revan - basically, nothing.
Plesen. We thought you were a town member for almost the entire game, but in the end, Man convinced us otherwise. I remember the posts - I remember that you executed a mafia member based on a tip. But nothing else comes to mind.
Hermit. Your investigations were great! :D
We didn't let the others play, that's what happened.
Thank you all for the game! The struggle was really intense. I'm glad that I was able to add to the statistics, because a town victory is already too mainstream.
жизни выцветшие карточки хлам лиц расквашенные лампочки хлам между жидких начинаний сам в крови воспоминаний поваляться захотел
Молодое зло телами в масле Застилает взор багровый зной Если хочешь ты чтоб я был счастлив Наизнанку вывернись со мной Бахромою плоть дурная драма До рассвета нервы в решето Валидола вмажь по вене мама За моё счастливое ничто
Make hints so subtle and carefully that the GM doesn't notice them, but attentive townspeople do.
I'm afraid that's impossible. The GM always knows more about the roles and NPCs than the townspeople, and they can't fail to notice what a townsperson has noticed.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
I would be surprised if it was liked. It wasn't in your mafia's interests. I wonder, what if I had written not "Shamrock is mafia," but simply "Execute Shamrock." Also without any basis and without any explanation, like Dag does, for example. Would I also get a modkill?:D :D :D Rudyy
I really didn't like the behavior after the game.
The GM issued a modkill. I disagree with this decision. I have the right. :p And notice that only the mafia are unhappy with my behavior. What's up with that...:D
Added 18 minutes later Shamrock Rover
Yes, in most cases, they actually believe the first person, let's say, who reveals themselves.
There was no reveal. If you want to see reveals, read games involving Ortonn.:D
Guys, honestly, we'll go completely crazy. To the point where the moderator can't even vote first for a mafia member they themselves identified. "Reveal."
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
However, the last night was surprising. The vote was cast for Ment. It would have been much more effective on me! There would have been 2 against 2, and then a new night and a chance for a double elimination.
I was still hoping that Doug was the boss; the description sort of fit, as he couldn't be killed. Ment was someone, and you were just a pushover. If Doug wasn't the boss, I would have still voted randomly because I didn't trust either of you. Or maybe I would have investigated, although it's not certain that I would have figured it out.
No, the trick was good. If I think something isn't great, I'll say so. For example, I wasn't shy about Revan. But if you enjoy self-deprecation, I can come up with something.
жизни выцветшие карточки хлам лиц расквашенные лампочки хлам между жидких начинаний сам в крови воспоминаний поваляться захотел
Молодое зло телами в масле Застилает взор багровый зной Если хочешь ты чтоб я был счастлив Наизнанку вывернись со мной Бахромою плоть дурная драма До рассвета нервы в решето Валидола вмажь по вене мама За моё счастливое ничто
It sounds so cute, I can't even be mad at you for killing me ^_^. We should do more of these "maniacs who go around hugging everyone" instead of brutally and bloodily killing.
In general, this time, I can say that I didn't really play at all. It was too hard for me; newspapers while I'm sleeping, all the decisions while I'm sleeping, all the most interesting things happen while I'm sleeping (like the modkill of Yashur), basically everything happened while I was sleeping!
Actually, I was initially upset when I found out I was the mafia (I really wanted to play as a town member), so maybe if I had been a town member, I would have been more active.
I liked the team; everyone was nice, except for me, because I was a useless vegetable. The only thing is, at the beginning, they wanted to kill Utretso, and I stopped them and told them that they shouldn't kill Morny because he's cute. And I was right! He was very helpful, as you can see.
I liked Rudy the most; he thought clearly, played well, and gave the impression of being a town member throughout the game. And Vespers didn't let them execute him at the end. In general, good job, Rudy.
The town was also good; Menti, for example, was good, after Hermit, of course. Although I don't remember much from the daytime game anymore, but Menti really seemed to be good (not just because everyone is praising him). Hermit killed with his investigation abilities; he was the best healer in history. But with Yashur, it's unclear; I don't know exactly how he was exposed, and I didn't understand for a long time why he got the modkill, but he's acting a little strangely now.
In general, thank you all for the game. And sorry for being lazy.
As for Yashur, it's unclear. I don't know exactly how he gave himself away; I didn't understand for a long time why he was being targeted.
Well... basically, that's what happened.
1. I decided to check out "old" Shemrok right away on the first night (yes, Yashur's intuition is still working perfectly :D). 2. For some reason, you decided to try and expose Wolfstet-Curias.;) 3. On the second day, when I already knew about Shemrok's team affiliation, and Mentu (whom I knew) was already being "framed" (although he hadn't been "hanged" yet), I decided to use Arandor's post about "mafia newbies" and wrote that Shemrok was a member of the mafia (you can argue about the "100%" part, but I did remove that word a little later). I was interested in seeing the public's reaction. :smile26: I didn't provide any arguments (according to the rules, I'm not obliged to justify my accusations), but I was ready to say (if anyone asked why I was "attacking" Shemrok) that I just chose the first newbie on the list. 4. However, no one asked anything; instead, the discussion turned to Yashur's "giveaway" and so on. And then the GM started "attacking" me. :smile10: :( 5. Vespyr, you, and Rudy gave yourselves away with your reaction. And Mona joined in for some reason. :confused: 6. I decided to investigate (in order of decreasing suspicion): Vespyr, then you, and finally, Rudy. Result: Vespyr is an "old" player. 7. I wrote in the thread (again, without providing arguments, because I'm not obliged to) that Shemrok and Vespyr are members of the mafia. Again, I was ready to answer the question, "Why do you think that?" But instead of a question, I received a "notification" from the GM...:mad: :mad: :mad: Neira Drake
He's acting a little inappropriately right now.
I would really like to know what my "inappropriateness" consists of. :confused:
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
I would really like to know what makes me seem so inadequate?
You seem to be complaining a lot.
In general, you should discuss this matter with Nebka personally.
Added 5 minutes later In any case, I didn't read the posts with "giveaways," so for me, it's still a mystery how he openly revealed that he reached the modkill, because the post on the day of the modkill doesn't seem that revealing to me. And Nebo hasn't done anything about more obvious giveaways before, so, Yashchur, I sympathize with you.