The city of Ilata. — New ideas.

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Registered: 2/28/2013 7:59 AM UTC

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3/25/2013 6:42 AM UTC

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Each race has its own dragon god (except for the Orcs). But Ilat (the god of air) doesn't have a race. Moreover, he is not mentioned anywhere in Heroes 5 or Heroes 6. The only thing I found was a mention in a fan-made guide to Heroes 6:
He is the patron deity of humans (a younger race, since he is a younger dragon),
but he was ousted by his older brother, Elrath, from the Holy Empire.
Nevertheless, Ilat is very popular in the Free Cities and among the nomadic barbarian
tribes that roam the vast lands to the east of the Empire.
He is also revered by travelers, bards, spies, actors, courtiers, rogues,
thieves, and some wizards (not only for his extensive knowledge of magic, but also for
his tendency to imbue even simple facts with mystery and depth).
I suggest that we come up with a race for Ilat ourselves. Here is my proposal:
Tier 1 Air Elementals (like in Heroes 3)
Upgrade Storm Elementals
Tier 2 Thieves
Upgrade Spies
Tier 3 Air Priests
Upgrade Storm Priests
Tier 4 Free Archers
Upgrade Master Archers
Tier 5 Air Riders
Upgrade Air Warriors
Tier 6 Rukh
Upgrade Thunderbirds
Tier 7 Air Dragon
Upgrade Lightning Dragon
If the idea is bad or needs to be improved, please let me know.

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3/25/2013 9:08 AM UTC

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If we were to create a faction for Silat, it would obviously be the Free Cities. Or, we could do nothing at all, because the orcs' reverence for the Sky Father is already something for Silat, and perhaps that's enough.

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Registered: 10/30/2011 1:01 AM UTC

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3/26/2013 6:05 AM UTC

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The idea is quite good, but the creatures are chosen somewhat illogically – spies and elementals don't really go together, and an air elemental, which is weaker than a spy and a priest of its own god, seems strange. But overall, the idea is good, and if it's tweaked a bit, it could fit well into the world of Ashan.

Наш мир полон тайн и чудес.
Многие их ищут, многим они вовсе не нужны, а многие даже не замечают их, не понимают что они вокруг нас, каждый день, везде.
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3/26/2013 6:09 AM UTC

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Do you suggest placing the elemental above the priest? Although, we could move the Free Archers to the second tier.

If we were to create a faction for Silat, Free Cities would be the obvious choice. Or, we could do nothing, because the orcs' reverence for Father Sky already provides something for Silat, and perhaps that's enough.

If you've forgotten, it's not just Father Sky, but also Mother Earth. So, it's something different.

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3/26/2013 8:01 AM UTC

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Of course, I mean Silanna, who already has a faction, and in this way, half of the remaining factions have been added. If Silanna has one and a half factions, it doesn't mean we should give the other Dragons half a faction each. The same goes for Silat; I'm not sure if, given that he already has half a faction, there's a reason to give him one and a half, like Silanna.

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3/26/2013 11:08 AM UTC

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Here is my idea for this faction: 1. Thieves/Spies - scouts and "ordinary" citizens of the Free Cities. 2. Free Archers/Master Archers - defenders of order and guardians of the Holy Cities. 3. Air Priests/Silat Priests - fanatical worshippers of Silat, skilled in the art of hand-to-hand combat. 4. Wind Guardians/Storm Lords - air spirits, loyal servants of Silat, sent by him to Ashan. 5. Giant Eagles/Rukh Birds - huge birds that snatch prey and drop it from the sky. Tamed by the cunning inhabitants of the Holy Cities. 6. Air Dragons/Sky Dragons - huge lizards soaring in the sky. They protect all followers of Silat, those he favors, or peaceful inhabitants, etc. 7. Storm/Hurricane - special whirlwinds, vaguely resembling intelligent beings. Summoned by Silat priests. They float just above the ground, but do not fly. Very difficult to kill with ordinary weapons, but very vulnerable to magic. What do you think of the idea?

Наш мир полон тайн и чудес.
Многие их ищут, многим они вовсе не нужны, а многие даже не замечают их, не понимают что они вокруг нас, каждый день, везде.
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3/26/2013 1:49 PM UTC

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Archers, cavalry, priests, dragons, and warriors. A very original Castle.

My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.

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3/26/2013 2:25 PM UTC

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I'm sure that if there was a Free Cities faction in Heroes, it would include Free Mages:

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3/27/2013 7:55 AM UTC

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Here's my idea for this race:
1. Thieves/Spies - scouts and "ordinary" residents of the Free Cities.
2. Free Archers/Master Archers - defenders of order and guardians of the Holy Cities.
3. Air Priests/Silat Priests - fanatical worshippers of Silat, skilled in the art of hand-to-hand combat.
4. Wind Guardians/Storm Lords - air spirits, loyal servants of Silat, sent by him to Ashan.
5. Giant Eagles/Rukh Birds - huge birds that snatch prey and drop it from the sky. Tamed by the cunning of the Holy Cities' inhabitants.
6. Air Dragons/Sky Dragons - huge reptiles soaring in the sky. They protect all followers of Silat, those he favors, or peaceful inhabitants, etc.
7. Storm/Hurricane - special vortices, vaguely resembling intelligent beings. Summoned by Silat priests. They hover just above the ground, but do not fly. Very difficult to kill with ordinary weapons, but very vulnerable to magic.

Drawbacks of the idea
That's a good idea, but Rukh are already giant eagles. So, maybe it would be better to call them Thunder Birds.
The same goes for dragons; it would be better to call them Storm Dragons.
Storm and Hurricane shouldn't be integrated into the faction; it would be better to make them a spell to summon a Storm creature.
And what happened to the air riders?
Strengths of the idea
You came up with a good idea about the Silat Priests; it specifies who the priest worships.
You have thought through the creatures' biographies very well.

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I suggest making the city's appearance in the style of Machu Picchu, the ancient Inca city, and the inhabitants will be humans like those from the Order faction. I think it will be unusual and original.
I haven't decided on the name and racial ability yet.

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3/28/2013 7:43 AM UTC

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Gemmo

I suggest designing the city's appearance in the style of Machu Picchu, the ancient Inca city, and the inhabitants will be humans like those from the Order faction. I think it would be unusual and original.
I haven't decided on the name and racial ability yet.

Perhaps the Sanctuaries of Silat could be made in the Inca style, as you suggested, and there would be small villages-fortresses of ordinary citizens of the Free Cities nearby (because you wanted to connect Silat with the Holy Cities, right?).

And one more thing – how do you like the idea of replacing the air elementals with air riders to avoid repetition?

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I'm sure that if there was a Free Cities faction in Heroes, it would include Free Mages.

But where can we add them, who can we replace? Maybe, if we remove the air elementals, we can place them on the third level, and move the priests to the fourth? And all the other units would be servants of Silat. What do you think?

Наш мир полон тайн и чудес.
Многие их ищут, многим они вовсе не нужны, а многие даже не замечают их, не понимают что они вокруг нас, каждый день, везде.
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3/29/2013 6:09 AM UTC

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Perhaps the Sanctuaries of Silat could be designed in the style of the Incas, as you suggested, and have small village-fortresses of ordinary citizens of the Free Cities nearby (since you wanted to connect Silat with the Holy Cities, right?).

Why not.

And another thing – how do you like the idea of replacing the air elementals with air riders to avoid repetition?

Air riders – riders on birds, slightly smaller than Rukh. And it would be better to remove the elementals altogether, as they are neutral.

But where can they be added, who can be replaced? Maybe, if we remove the air elementals, we can place them on the third level, and move the priests to the fourth? And all the others will be servants of Silat. What do you think?

There is no need to add Free Mages, we already have Priests, and they are mages.

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3/30/2013 6:58 AM UTC

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1. Perhaps, priests could be an upgrade for free mages? Like, mages who want to serve their patron, Silat, become his priests. 2. Perhaps, they won't repeat the bird theme, but instead create air riders in the form of warrior-priests riding on wind currents?

Наш мир полон тайн и чудес.
Многие их ищут, многим они вовсе не нужны, а многие даже не замечают их, не понимают что они вокруг нас, каждый день, везде.
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3/30/2013 7:05 AM UTC

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1. Perhaps priests could be an upgrade for free mages? Like, mages who want to serve their patron Silat become his priests.

Why not?

2. Maybe they won't repeat the bird theme, and instead make air riders as warrior-priests riding on wind currents?

Maybe it would be better to not include riders at all, and replace them with Silat Knights.

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Gemmo

Maybe it would be better to not include riders at all and replace them with Silat Knights.

No, "air rider" sounds original, and it evokes the image of someone who has tamed something celestial, while a knight is reminiscent of Haven.

Наш мир полон тайн и чудес.
Многие их ищут, многим они вовсе не нужны, а многие даже не замечают их, не понимают что они вокруг нас, каждый день, везде.
А эти чудеса порой, сокрыты в обычных, привычных предметах.