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In the dark mission, we had a choice regarding Ashan's fate. And the true, or rather the canonical, ending is considered the good one.

In this case, the evil and good endings are equal. The entire game is built around the idea that the Messiah must free the demons. But it is generally accepted that good triumphs, so the game has two options.

On the topic: I feel more sorry for Godric, as he was old and had done so much for the Empire.
Biyara's death didn't particularly please me, but it didn't sadden me either. She was just following orders. With Biyara, Ashan is much more interesting, much more complex (someone said that the world would be much simpler without her).

Here are my thoughts on the matter: Godric is a noble knight, a fierce defender of the Griffin Empire, but not a fanatic. He died due to the machinations of Biara, but he was such a good knight that angels descended from the sky during his death, and "Elrath himself" spoke. Of course, he died undeservedly. Tieru is an Elven Ranger, the creator of the Griffin's Heart, and lived for over four hundred years. He was killed by the same Biara. But most likely, he only shed his mortal coil – only his body perished, but not his spirit. In other words, he didn't completely die. So, I wouldn't "mourn" him. Alaron is an Elven king. He was killed by Necromancers during their attack on Irollan. Of course, he wasn't a very good king, but he wasn't a bad character either. But there's little reason to pity him. Cyrus is a great archmage, the first of the Circle. He was killed by Markel. Like all the others mentioned, he died undeservedly. He was one of the few who acted with strict calculation. After all, the Griffin Empire defeated the demons anyway, without the help of Irollan and the Silver League. They also said that 20 years ago (in the game), Cyrus and Alaron didn't go after King Alex, they chickened out, etc. But here, again, the strict calculation of the mages comes into play. Only a madman would go to the land of demons! Therefore, Cyrus's death is something to be regretted. Nicholas is the king of the Griffin Empire. He was killed by the demon Agrael; killed by Faidaen. The first time – as a living, normal person, as a king saving his country. The second time – as a bloodthirsty high vampire, obeying the will of Markel (by the way, he was "resurrected" at the request of Isabel). What can be said? He was an unfortunate young king destined for complete destruction (because the cleansing flame of the phoenixes consumed his body and soul. Or not?). Poor guy. One can only sympathize with him. Kurak is the leader of the Orcs, fighting for the independence of his people, an "Orcish national hero." He was killed by Alaric. He tried to save his people. He wanted justice. A worthy cause should be rewarded. "We praise the hero." Biara is quite the lady; a personal agent of Kha-Beleth; she committed many evil deeds; one of the main villains of the game; in general, a negative character. They justly dealt with the villain. I don't regret her. Arantir is a neutral Necromancer, fighting for order, balance in Ashan, the greatest devotee of Ash, united all of Erathia as Markel once did, but unlike him, he wanted to bring balance to the world. He was killed by the Dark Messiah when he tried to destroy the Skull of Shadows and seal the gates of Shio. In general, he still managed to bring some order to Ashan. So, he truly deserves pity, as well as not deserving it. After all, he still acted in the interests of Ash, not always performing normal actions. Tolgar is a Dwarven king, looking for easy ways, mostly not always the right ones; and also a weak, indecisive ruler. He was killed by Wulfstan during the assault on Thor Hall. He didn't deserve mercy. That's all there is to it. Andreas is the nephew of King Nicholas. He was killed by Biara. Little is known about him, so it's not right to judge him. But still, his death was unfair. Laslo – the only word that comes to mind is BUTCHER. Of course, he wasn't always like that; Biara corrupted him. But we know him after this "transformation." He was killed by Frida. There's no point in feeling sorry for him. Ornella is another fanatic of Ash, she always blindly followed her teacher – Arantir. She died during the ritual of opening the path to the Holy Flame. Another rather neutral character. She also deserves and doesn't deserve pity, just like Arantir. Alaric – "no comment." A mad fanatic of the Blood Church of Saint Isabel. Like Laslo, he was corrupted by Biara. He was killed by Gothar. He doesn't deserve pity. Markel is a Necromancer, formerly an astrologer for Queen Fiona. He was exiled by Nicholas and Godric and decided to take revenge. He was killed by Zehir. Twice. The first time – in the capital of the Griffin Empire, Talongar (or Claw?), the second time – in Cyrus's artificial reality. He doesn't deserve pity. Giovanni – for some reason, this vampire, Ornella's first teacher, was not remembered, although he "appeared" in both "Lords of the North" and "Masters of the Horde," unlike Andreas, who was only talked about. He was killed by Arantir. He didn't do anything good. He is not worthy of mourning.

I was a little sad when Ornella died. Arantir and her could have made a good couple. Although, it's probably for the best; necromancers shouldn't be concerned with such things. Of course, I feel sorry for Godric. Frida really went too far. I've always been annoyed by how knights act with their honor, ideals, and maximalism. Homeland and all that... Maybe I'm selfish, but I wouldn't rush to save the world if a loved one was in captivity. As for Biare, Markel, and Tolgar, good riddance.

Personally, I feel the most sorry for Nicholas. First, because he was killed twice, and both times it was because of Isabel. Second, his soul was essentially destroyed for simply following Marcel's orders (it would have been better if Faidean had burned Marcel first, but he couldn't think of that). And third, if he were alive, many others would be alive too, and the empire would still be intact. In general, he had the most agonizing and undeserved death; it's a pity for him :smile16: P.S. In my opinion, it would have been better if Nicholas had killed Agrael during their last meeting (THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION).

I completely agree with Knight of the Abyss. But on the other hand, there wouldn't be a movie :smile32:

It would have been, but not as interesting. In theory, Tieru's spirit could have appeared to Nicholas just as it did to Agrail, and then Nicholas, like Agrail-Railag, would have done everything to save the world because he loved Isabel just as much as Agrail. Then (if Agrail had been killed), the main heroes of the campaigns for Inferno and Dungeon would simply have been swapped. In my opinion, they would have been Biara and Tralsai.

Well, I might have exaggerated, but on the other hand, it's not entirely true either. "It wouldn't be so interesting" – that's no longer a movie; it's just a shoddy job.

Well, I might have exaggerated, but on the other hand, it's not entirely true. "It wouldn't be so interesting" - that's no longer a movie; it's just a shoddy job.

I completely agree. And yet, it was wrong to have Nicholas kill first in the plot. They didn't even let us know what kind of person he was; the only thing clear about him is that he was fearless. Remember the army he attacked Agral with to save Isabel? He was heading for certain suicide for her. And it was this lack of fear that killed him. It's a pity for the guy - he died senselessly for his bride...

In theory, Tieru's spirit could have appeared to Nicholas just as it appeared to Agrael, and then Nicholas, like Agrael-Raelag, would have done everything to save the world because he loved Isabel just as much as Agrael.

Then, on the one hand, everything would have been simpler; Markal would have gone to war against the Empire, and many of the inhabitants of Ashan would have survived, but how could he have negotiated with Zehir to conduct the ritual if he "disliked" the mages because of Cyrus's cowardice, who would have been alive then? So, everything is very ambiguous.

Markela was unjustly exiled after Fiona’s death. Of course, he wanted revenge. So, he’s not as bad as he seems.
Aranthir is just a fanatic; he’ll do whatever Ashha tells him to.
Kurak overestimated himself, and that’s why he paid the price.
Syrus and Alaron are cowardly types; if it weren’t for their cowardice, Kha-Beleth would already be dead.
I don’t understand why Ornella died. Surely there wasn’t another “tavern necromancer” in Erathia?

Markela was unjustly exiled after Fiona's death. Of course, he wanted revenge.

Unjustly? He was practicing necromancy in the Griffin Empire, which was forbidden, and the punishment for that was the highest possible. But if you were the king, would you want someone to desecrate and experiment on the corpses of your people? I wouldn't.

I voted for the last option; the world is cruel, after all. Although, it's a question that's very difficult to answer, and I'd say it would be Trals's death. He had a very hard time, although he hesitated. Usually, heroes like that become very great and wise. That's how it is, and as for the others: Godric – his time had come, like any old man. He himself often mentioned that he was old; he felt the last breath of air in the Dungeon of the Claw. A new generation came to replace him, but he was truly loyal and brave. Tieru knew too much and tried to understand too much. Perhaps he would have lived longer if not for Argail, but his death was justified. Alaron ultimately paid the price for just one wrong decision. Who knows how Askan's life might have unfolded to this day. Syrus was powerful, but as Markel said, he was just a "boastful" mage, which cannot be said about Zehir, although he was lazy. Nicholas is one of those young, heroic youths, the very best pawn, playing on emotions. Sooner or later, something like this would have happened to him, but not by Markel; it would have been the Overlord. Kurak, the liberator, didn't listen to Kujin; he hacked his way with an axe, but was it wise? Biara is that piece of evil that lives forever. Such beings cannot be defeated. The daughter of Urgash herself fell victim to the strongest human feeling – love, which is not surprising. Arantir did everything that was destined. It was cyclical and predictable; books are an evil thing. Tolgar, perhaps, he simply lost heart and could no longer do anything. But life doesn't forgive the weak. They all had to die, and we should thank the great Askh for those who remained.

I don't know about you, but I feel sorry that Markel died. That's why I don't like Zehir.

It's actually an interesting question.

Godric: It was time for him to retire, but no, he decided to keep fighting. Old age completely got to him, and first he let Markel go, and then he died himself... I don't regret it.

Tieru: He's lived long enough, but he still hasn't died. Although, for some reason, I feel a little bit sorry for him, just a little, to lose to some succubus...

Alaron - pfft. If he were some elf warrior, wishing everyone well, I would feel sorry. But as the ruler of a huge country - no.

Cyrus - a nasty guy. I don't feel sorry for him at all.

Nicholas: I feel sorry for his fate, but not for him. He was punished twice, and practically for nothing. On the other hand, he's just like his father... (Isn't that Alexei?)

Kurak: He died like an orc, after making a big mistake. I don't feel sorry.

Biara: I don't feel sorry, because she got annoying. Being controlled by a stupid AI and killing in every expansion... No...

Arantir: Before Dark Messiah, I felt sorry for him (I knew they would kill him). After playing Dark Messiah, I don't. He's completely inadequate there, as if he's gone mad. He doesn't even want to listen to Sareth. That's where he belongs.

Tolgar: I don't remember, so I don't feel sorry.

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Ornella - I feel sorry. A stupid death. Just for the sake of a town. And Arantir didn't even try to stop it. That makes me dislike him even more.

I felt very sorry for Godrick:( :( I understand he was old, but it seems like it was still too early for him to die. Of course, I don't know for sure, but it seems like he wasn't even 70 yet, and probably not even 60:( and that's why I hate Laszlo:mad: :mad: