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Which mafia killed Orton?
Haven.
Why don't you want the captain of the guard to try to kill me, but instead you're targeting a town player (sorry, but you don't know the player's status)?
He might get blocked.
He might get redirected.
He might get killed earlier.
He might be on the Haven team, and they won't send him, but will use normal night actions.
Why, all other things being equal, in this game do you vote instead of reading the other players or, at worst, going neutral?
What are the others writing? Are they accusing Dag, who gets eliminated every game, and trying to figure things out through psychology? No way, I only trust myself for now. Going neutral doesn't make sense, because over time the mafia might have a majority of votes, which is quite dangerous.

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We only have one option, so I think we should execute him. We don't have any other candidates, and I don't want to guess based on psychology.
Execute Torian.
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It's possible that the attacker ended up in a non-damaging self-defense situation for the player, which is why no damage was displayed. There are three such roles.

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What do you think, do players who complain a lot usually play for a specific faction?
Ты страшился тысячи вещей... Но все это были лишь маски, лишь видимости. На самом деле страшило тебя только одно решиться сделать шаг в неизвестное, маленький шаг через все существующие предосторожности. И кто хоть один раз оказывал великое доверие, полагался на судьбу, тот обретал свободу.
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By the way, Thorika, the block is a pretty strong argument, especially if it's the only one. It has been confirmed many times that the absence of a kill + a block indicates a Mafia member.
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One could potentially be assigned the role of a Mafia member. Although, who knows, as there isn't much point for Town players to use Night Actions early in the game, unless it's specifically to exclude a particular player from a role.

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I didn't account for some defenses that are difficult to overcome.
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Neira, please answer the questions I asked Aru.

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Ar, do you agree that silencing is the most useless night action for the Mafia?
Neira, that's not an argument. It's a double-edged sword. There have been just as many fails due to blocks. I know my status. I'm on the town's side.
Ты страшился тысячи вещей... Но все это были лишь маски, лишь видимости. На самом деле страшило тебя только одно решиться сделать шаг в неизвестное, маленький шаг через все существующие предосторожности. И кто хоть один раз оказывал великое доверие, полагался на судьбу, тот обретал свободу.
Мы не свободные, вольно танцующие автобусы. Мы – привязанные троллейбусы и трамваи
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So, since there was no salamander killing, it turns out they could only trigger self-defense twice. The chance is quite small, and even with a block, it's unlikely they would have sent their boss.

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Ar, do you agree that silencing is the most useless special ability for Mafia?
At the beginning of the game, yes, but towards the end, it can be a game-changer. However, Salamanders don't have any other special abilities at the beginning except for killing. Perhaps the random draw didn't help them, but instead gave them silencing, so they didn't have a choice when using their special abilities.

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Tox, either find a replacement for yourself or play properly and don't give the town a reason to hang you. This circus is pointless if you're really from the town.
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Do you think Grave was trying to kill Orton? And maybe he's from the town?
Yes... maybe... after the last game, someone from the town could have targeted Orton...
I don't think Grave decided to kill me from the first night because of the last game; rather, he's probably Mafia. Because it's reckless to kill someone from the town like that based on the last game.
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The idea of executing is tempting, but the prospects are very weak, to say the least. However, using the voting system and paying attention to the constant lack of votes, I agree with executing Torii.

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I'm sorry, it needs to be bold. Execute Torii
The second strange post in the game.

Torii is defending himself very peacefully.
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So, here's another correction.
If one of the kills wasn't displayed due to self-defense, then it could belong to either team, which means the Necropolis could also be responsible for the salamander kill. Haven might have even blocked their own player and accidentally killed them while they were defending themselves, resulting in this failure. In any case, for Torian, half of the city roles have already been eliminated.

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Tox, either find a replacement or play properly and don't give the town a reason to ban you. This circus is pointless if you're really supposed to be the town.
You don't understand! A good player always quits the game if they don't like the role. Only noobs keep playing.

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Which of the mafia killed Orton?
I think it was the Order.
Why don't you want the captain of the guard to try to kill me, but instead you're targeting a town player (sorry, but you don't know the player's status)?
Anything could happen to him; I agree with the options from Arandor. Although, it's also possible that it's some kind of passive role that they forgot to use for Night Kill (this is unlikely, but anything can happen).
Why, all other things being equal, in this game, do you vote instead of reading the other players or, at worst, going into Neutral Night Vote?
This is the most interesting question. As I said, I'm voting against you specifically because of the block. Statistics show that the absence of a kill combined with a block are related and indicate a mafia player who was just unlucky. I also said that I don't want to guess anything right now; I can't accuse anyone of being mafia or call anyone a townie based on their behavior. I prefer to rely on Night Kill information (although sometimes I rely on everything together or just on psychology). But in this case, I don't have any other candidates, and you have a block on you. And although my vote isn't 100% yet, I think you should be executed.

Although, I don't rule out the possibility that the Order encountered an unkillable defense, and you were just unlucky. But there is also a possibility that you are a blocked member of the Order who is being protected (but I don't really consider this option, because it's stupid to block your own, and you're not the type of player who would attract unnecessary attention to yourself).

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Hey, that's not an argument. It's a double-edged sword. There have been just as many fails due to blocks. I know my status. I'm on the town side.
But there are still more successful outcomes statistically, and I don't know your status, so I can't accurately assign you to either side.

Actually, I like Arka the most right now. He probably has a strong role.

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In general, the main thing is to close the day with an execution, because we need information.

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Here's another problem: we execute one of them who switched to the mafia side, but how will we know which side they were playing on?
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He probably has a strong role.
peaceful, without Non-Disclosure Agreement?)

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