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By the way, here's some food for thought for ariputra:
User of "VKontakte" to be tried for hatred towards Jews and Judaists

So, this is an example of how the global conspiracy deals with those who are undesirable, don't you understand that???
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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So, let ariputra know what the terrible ZOG will do to him – don't you understand that?;)

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Returning to what was written earlier. Here is a report from "Vesti" about the "Kabanov case":
The whole story is more than just a murder. It is an example of how, if you are in opposition, if you simply don't like the authorities, you get special rights – you can stand under fire, beat police officers, engage in fraud, and even kill. In the environment of people who like to wallow in the dirty zone of the Internet, where there is no sin, you will always be good.
Kabanov managed to deceive almost everyone. When he spoke about his wife in the past tense, it could be understood. Six days had passed, and nothing comforting came to mind. But the reporters didn't know that at the time of the interview, Irina was nearby – behind the glass of the balcony door, in plastic bags.
The tragedy of this family is, of course, far from the first, and, unfortunately, not the last: only this week, two similar cases occurred – in the Moscow region and in Siberia. But the tragedy of the Kabanovs will always stand out, even among a dozen very similar incidents. After all, it was a prosperous, strong, and very modern family, educated people, three children, and many friends. True, most of these friends turned out to be virtual.
Few of those who "friended," that is, entered the status of "friends" of the charming father of the family, knew that the father did not work, that his restaurant projects had collapsed, that there was no money for anything else, but there were debts, that his wife Irina's temporary jobs were the only means of livelihood, and that she had borrowed from colleagues again so that the children could continue to have a childhood – there were gifts under the Christmas tree. But the social media community was delighted, looking at the screen: people saw simple happiness.
There is an ordinary life with ordinary news, and there is a blogosphere or social network where other topics are discussed, where certain other problems are highlighted, where manipulation of public consciousness is simply flourishing, because the presentation of the material is focused on certain things while hiding others. This is a common situation.
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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Everyone should read this!
It’s a long article, but it’s simply amazing.

“I realized one thing. There is no state in Russia. It is a territory occupied by a handful of criminals. There are 141 million normal, hardworking, generous, intelligent, and decent people living in Russia. And one million criminals who are destroying everything. And there is no state at all.”
William Browder, “There is no state in Russia”
http://www.snob.ru/thread/71#entry_36099
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Everyone should read this!
It's a long article, but it's simply amazing.

“I realized one thing. There is no state in Russia. It is a territory occupied by a handful of criminals. There are 141 million normal, hardworking, generous, smart, and decent people living in Russia. And a million criminals who are destroying everything. And there is no state at all.”
William Browder, “There is no state in Russia”
http://www.snob.ru/thread/71#entry_36099

I read it a long time ago.
And what do you suggest we do with this knowledge?
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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So, what do you suggest we do with this knowledge?

Spread it far and wide. Before reading this Article, I only had a superficial understanding of the Magnitsky case, as did many others. Looking at the situation from the outside, you begin to understand what kind of country we live in. And how desperately the authorities are trying to justify themselves in the eyes of the citizens, creating an image of honest people, who prevent them from stealing and robbing the people, as criminals and enemies of the country. The main problem in Russia is that the majority of the population does not think about politics; they believe what they are told on television. And they believe it so blindly and feel like they are part of this system of lawlessness that they will fight for it, urging everyone else to be blindly patriotic. And only such Articles can somehow make people think. Everything we have been striving for since perestroika is collapsing; Putin clearly wants to return the country to the Soviet system. And now, only a change in the mindset of the population can help us. Of course, this process takes time, but changes are already noticeable - an increasing number of people are beginning to understand the situation in the country - protest movements on the internet are growing. The internet is the only support that allows us to tell the truth to the people. And now, all we can do to help Russia is through posts and comments.
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Spread the word. Before reading this article, I had only a superficial understanding of the Magnitsky case, like many others. Looking at the situation from the outside, you begin to understand what kind of country we live in. And how desperately the authorities try to justify themselves in the eyes of citizens, creating an image of honest people who won't let them steal and rob the nation as criminals and enemies of the country. Russia's main problem is that the majority of the population doesn't think about politics, they believe what they are told on TV. And they believe it so blindly and feel so much a part of this system of lawlessness that they will fight for it, calling on everyone else to also be blind patriots. And only articles like this can somehow make people think. Everything we have been working towards since perestroika is crumbling, Putin clearly wants to return the country to the Soviet system. And now the only thing that can help us is a revolution in the consciousness of the population. Naturally, this process takes time, but changes are already noticeable - more and more people are beginning to understand the situation in the country - protest movements on the internet are growing. The internet is the only support that allows us to tell the truth to the people. And now, all we can do to help Russia is posts and comments.

I had roughly similar thoughts about a year and a half ago, before the elections; I, like many, started taking an interest in politics, read a lot of things, and it seemed to me just the same that we were being deceived, that we needed to spread the truth to the masses, etc. Before the parliamentary elections, I remember, everyone was excited, like a real wind of change, rallies, everyone rosy-cheeked, just a little more and the state would transform, everyone would understand and admit their mistakes, and so on in that vein—in short, rose-tinted sentiment and faith in a bright future shone like never before, until reality slowly and methodically showed who was who. All candidates besides Putin showed their complete impotence, the only one I felt sorry for was Yavlinsky—they just blatantly screwed the guy over in front of everyone, and nothing happened. All the rest are just a laughingstock; they don't even create the illusion—well, not that they don't, Zhirinovsky of course once every six months blurts out an epic speech and everyone goes "ooh-la-la—there are still d'Artagnans in our kingdom", but, in fact, it's all buffoonery, and no real opposition can be spoken of even now. This lack of alternatives is backed up by the complete amorphousness of the population. It's a mistake to think the internet will open people's eyes; it is undeniably useful as a vent, but the point isn't really about it, the point is about the people who, through this vent, will receive and filter out the necessary information for themselves (and people have always known how to receive and filter out what they need, 10 and 100 years ago, without any internets), but these people, unfortunately, are an overwhelming minority. I personally witnessed people who were generally thoughtful and didn't watch TV voting for Putin; a year ago it seemed to me like sheer blatant stupidity, but now, when the passions have somewhat subsided, I am forced to acknowledge that they were more likely right, not me.
One smart person said that life in Russia has now become quite tolerable, and if you compare it with the 90s, it's simply a bastion of stability and prosperity (and this person has traveled half the world and has something to compare it with), and I cannot disagree with him. Undoubtedly, what Browder talks about is the bitter truth—everything is now run by a small group of people who enable and cover up cases like Magnitsky's, but this is our "cultural heritage" that, generally speaking, we did not inherit from Putin, and it would be very naive to assume that the president—our guarantor of the constitution—would come and clean out this whole MMM-style mess, chase away all the bad guys, put all the good guys in charge (by the way, who are these good guys?) and divide everything equally. That just doesn't happen; there will always be a peasant in bast shoes trudging alongside a tinted Infiniti, that's just how this world is wired, and Russia in particular—an oil state, there's no justice here. You can only talk about stability, as I see it, and this stability exists now, no matter what anyone says, and various kinds of "protest" information from the internet is not much better than TV here—in one, everything is blackened, in the other, only prime ministers riding on pink ponies. If you really want to understand what is happening in the country now, you don't need to read blogs (they are always biased), just lift your head, pull your butt off the chair, and take a walk through your city, look at your home, the street, the people. Are they suffering? Far from it. A very clear picture is emerging now, trending towards general softening; people are well-fed, for the most part, there's nowhere to park cars, local lawlessness has practically disappeared, drug addiction has been conquered (I say this as someone who moved to Tyumen in 2000 and lived in the same building as a drug den), beer stalls were removed (replaced by flower shops, in our city), cigarette and alcohol advertising was banned, even not the wealthiest people can afford a trip abroad once a year, many government agencies have become significantly faster and better, salaries aren't delayed, all sorts of government subsidies actually work (young families, for example), and much, much more. All this happened during the years of rule of our great and terrible one.
Of course, there are downsides, there are moments when one simply feels ashamed for Mother Russia (and I don't know how to fight this), but, if we look the truth in the eye, life has become better. And if we need to somehow influence this conditional "one million criminals", then by fostering a healthy opposition, simply "disseminating information" will achieve nothing—grandmas voted for Zyu [Zyuganov] and they still will, so what's the point?
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Undoubtedly, Putin is far from the worst president, especially when compared to his predecessors. But we forget one thing. In the West, people have long recognized a simple and very important truth: power must constantly change. Let the current president be an angel incarnate; after 8 years, it's time to say goodbye. It doesn't matter what kind of power; stagnation must never be allowed. Because the people don't just elect a new president. Along with the new president, the entire system is renewed – he will review the work of all ministers, identify shortcomings, and appoint new ones. They, in turn, will also appoint new people to lower positions. And this is, in any case, better than the best president in the world sitting on the throne for half a lifetime. A change of power is the only way for the people to control power. And Putin has clung to his throne with all his might and doesn't want to let go. Because if he leaves power, he's finished; he understands this and is very afraid. A new president will review his work and uncover so much that Putin could be put in prison for life. Those who voted for "stability" also had an argument: they say that they have already stolen enough for themselves, and now they will work for the country. But reality turned out to be simpler: "once you've eaten your fill, you want more," and "appetite comes with eating." http://ajbolit444.livejournal.com/620165.html
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Without a doubt, Putin is far from the worst president, especially when you consider his predecessors. But we forget one thing. In the West, people have long recognized a simple and very important truth: power must change regularly. Even if the current president is an angel incarnate, after 8 years, it's time to say goodbye. It doesn't matter what kind of power it is; stagnation must never be allowed. Because the people don't just elect a new president; with the new president, the entire system is renewed. He will review the work of all ministers, identify shortcomings, and appoint new people. They, in turn, will also appoint new people to lower positions. And this is, in any case, better than the best president in the world sitting on the throne for half his life. The change of power is the only way for the people to control the government. And Putin is clinging to his throne and doesn't want to let go because if he leaves power, he's finished; he understands this and is very afraid. A new president will review his work and uncover so much that Putin could be sent to prison for life.

Those who voted for "stability" also had an argument: they say that they have already stolen enough for themselves, and now they will work for the country. But reality turned out to be simpler: "once you've eaten your fill, you want more," and "appetite comes with eating."

http://ajbolit444.livejournal.com/620165.html

I am an optimist in such matters (I can't help myself) and believe in the bright future of the country, I believe that science will gradually be revived (not only oil-oriented), factories will be restored, I believe that doctors and teachers will earn no less than average sales managers, I even believe that budget embezzlement will be minimized, but I do not believe that a change of president (even if honestly elected) can change the structure of the state apparatus. That is, some people will, of course, be replaced, but whether this will significantly affect the overall situation, I cannot understand, because there will be too many unknowns in this equation. Of course, fair elections and the change of power are a healthy practice, but what alternatives to Putin are there now? I would like to see them.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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There are always alternatives; there are many honest politicians, full of enthusiasm, who are ready to lead the country forward and who already have clear and well-defined plans for the development of the state. But we know little about them, and they do not participate in elections because they are not allowed to. Take Yavlinsky, for example.
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There are always alternatives; there are many honest politicians, full of enthusiasm, ready to lead the country forward, who already have clear and well-defined plans for the development of the state. But we know little about them, and they do not participate in elections because they are not allowed to. Take Yavlinsky, for example.

I cannot judge whether there is a clear program, or even whether these politicians who are interested in the presidency actually exist, but I partly agree that they are not allowed to participate. Those in power will never give it up easily; this is politics. If a decent candidate does appear, it won't be out of thin air; enough time must pass, the person must make a name for themselves, and form some kind of base. There are always lobbyists and so on behind a candidate. A purely "people's candidate" sounds great, of course, but unfortunately, it only sounds good. Yavlinsky is an example of this. And believe me, even with the most transparent and honest elections and vote counts, the person who won would still win. That's what the people decided, and that's the harsh truth; we have to learn to live with it.
In general, constantly thinking about politics has a bad effect on the nerves and digestion. :) It's not worth getting too involved in it and taking it to heart; you need to be a consumer, do what depends on you, help those around you, and not be afraid to stand up for your rights, etc. If a candidate appears for whom it will not be a shame to cast your vote (and he will appear sooner or later), then I will vote for him without hesitation; I will put a checkmark "for the change of power."
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Yes, Putin won't simply relinquish power. That's what's frightening. I'm sure he won't be elected for a fourth term. But he also won't be able to quietly step down – he'll be arrested. There's information that he's deliberately provoking protest movements so that a civil war can begin, and he can establish martial law and a personal dictatorship. At first glance, it sounds like nonsense, but it makes you think, because he really has no other way out.
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Yes, Putin won't simply relinquish power. That's what's frightening. I'm sure he won't be elected for a fourth term. But he also won't be able to quietly step down – he'll be arrested. There's information that he's deliberately provoking protest movements so that a civil war can begin, and he can establish a military regime and a personal dictatorship. At first glance, it sounds like nonsense, but it makes you think, because he really has no other way out.

And this already deserves the "facepalm" image. A dictatorship has already been established in its own way, and a civil war would be beneficial to neither him nor those "at the top."
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Putin is as cunning as a snake, which is why he is still in power. He thinks many years ahead. Right now, yes, he is a dictator. But what will happen in 6 years when he is not re-elected?
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Putin is as cunning as a snake, which is why he is still in power. He thinks many years ahead. Right now, yes, he is a dictator. But what will happen in 6 years when he is not re-elected?

We'll see. There are always "successors" as a last resort.
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No, the idea with the receiver won't work anymore, and he understands that. Undoubtedly, he's a smart guy. If he used his intelligence for the benefit of the country, we would be living much better lives.
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