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#4815
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The main task of the GM, as I see it, is to control the game with minimal influence on its outcome. This is what we should focus on. If a player on one of the teams violates the rules, the sanction should ideally exactly offset the benefit that team gained from the violation. Or give a little more harm than the benefit received. It's not so important what the specific sanctions are; the main thing is to calculate everything mathematically. In some cases, it might not even be necessary to do anything (as was the case in my Mafia game, where Ortonn cheated, but the players managed to execute Mirka during the day). And, of course, issue a ban to discourage future violations. I don't see the point in introducing drastic sanctions that significantly reduce a team's chances of winning. Firstly, as already mentioned, it spoils the game. Secondly, if you think this will teach players... I doubt it. Most regulars already try not to violate the rules, and newcomers don't always reread old Mafia games and won't learn from it. That's how I see it.
 

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#4816
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Finally, it's my turn to hand out the tea :).
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to exactly cover the profit
This doesn't even need to be invented; it's quite straightforward. It's enough to end the day by executing a player from the exposed team.
Ment
Or to deal a little more damage than the benefit received.
Disrupting the Night Actions of players from the exposed team with a certain probability, I think, fits this definition. By the way, this conversation shouldn't be taken as defining the rules for all subsequent Mafia games. The GM decides. Remember the debate about clues and notes after game 57.
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Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
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#4817
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You don’t even need to come up with anything; just end the day by executing a player who has been caught cheating.
In this case, the negative aspects didn’t outweigh the positive ones that the city gained.

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#4818
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Arandor
In this case, the negative didn't outweigh the positives that the town received.
But why not?

Option 1: The day ended with the execution of an innocent player. Then, the second player, who was suspected, was the Mafia. Result: -1 innocent, +information.
Option 2: The day ended with a modkill of an innocent player; he said that the other player was the Mafia. Result: -1 innocent, +information.

In my opinion, it's equivalent. Except for the action itself, of course.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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#4819
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You didn’t understand, I’ll explain it in a private message.

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#4820
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We could create and pin a thread with a list of banned users, so anyone who enters the section immediately sees who's who. This would also be easier for future GMs who might, in good faith, accept an offender, as they didn't ruin their game, and besides, they won't do it again; they had a bad upbringing. Or they might simply forget, or unpleasant events will fade in their memory and won't seem so terrible anymore. Besides, we have a shortage of players, so we need to accept even those with issues.
This system has been successfully functioning for ten years in the section dedicated to the third installment of the "Heroes" series, in some CIS countries, as well as abroad.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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#4821
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Moderated: INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE in the message

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#4822
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When will your next Mafia game be?
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#4823
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What are you posting, Orton? There are sensitive people, women, and children here.
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#4824
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If I end up running it, the start won’t be before Sunday or Monday. If it’s Thorium, then questions should be directed to him.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#4825
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Thank you...
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#4826
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What are you posting, Orton? There are sensitive people, women, and children here.
He simply crushed a pack of cherry-flavored "red apple" cigarettes against his face as a sign of protest.

За всем следят машины благодати и любви.
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#4827
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ToX
What are you posting, Orton? There are sensitive people, women, and children here.
And I just told the ad blocker to add this to its database...:mad:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).

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#4828
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Has anyone contacted Thorium or Spiro? Will they be hosting the game?


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!