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Could you please provide some tips on how to complete the Grand Order on week 2 using the Jebus Cross template?

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I perform best at breaking G.O. on the second week with Barbarians.
But again, it's desirable to have enough resources to upgrade the hippos!
You gather hippo dwellings, place them in the town, and rebuild the Castle; by turn 121 you'll have 9 bears, then you just need to upgrade and go for G.O.
On the way to G.O., you can grab a couple of cons if they're not far, and Utopia if available.
But going into G.O. without backup is dangerous, although it depends on the guards!

I have a question. Why does Shakti have basic Troglodytes???? In 90% of cases, Troglodytes are upgraded on the first turn!!! :)
And another question. Why is there only 36 Nagas? Which monsters are set in the map generation settings?

In general, the goal should be to break the Gate of Oblivion not on the second week, but on the 121st day. By the way, there are situations where it can be broken on the first day.

Did you have 59 Orcs and 75 Wolves on your second map?

Game 127 lost. It wasn't worth going for that pitiful relic, especially considering it's a 3-day journey away. This is obvious without even looking at the save file. Although, it's possible there was a way to capture him using a chain of heroes. Capture him with the main hero, split the army, and buy him out at the castle. Or, use some weak hero to break him, while the main hero runs to the Gate of the Abyss. The turn order passes the army along the chain, allowing for an earlier exit.

22 giants blocked the path, 7 of which were titans...
Came back a week later, and there were 22 giants without the 7 titans, meaning all the giants were there.

Stop! Isn't that strange? I think that at the start of the game, it decides in which cell of the map a powerful stack will be, and this information is stored in the save files and cannot change on its own. And if this stack disappears, it means that someone attacked this monster stack but didn't defeat it: this is a known phenomenon, and, by the way, the rules usually prohibit weakening neutral creatures in this way - that is, if you attack a stack with a powerful unit, you must fight to the end!

Hold on! Isn't that how it works? I think that at the start of the game, it decides in which cell of the map a single, upgraded stack will be, and this information is stored in the save files and cannot change on its own. And if this stack disappears, it means that someone attacked this monster stack but didn't defeat it: this is a well-known phenomenon, and, by the way, the rules usually prohibit weakening neutral creatures with this method - that is, if you attack a stack with an upgraded unit, you have to fight to the end!

In online play, you can weaken neutral creatures with repeated attacks. If there were 6 upgraded units, the stack will disappear, but on the next attack, there will also be an upgraded stack, but smaller. Someone was just a little mistaken or didn't notice, forgot :D

What's the point of repeatedly trying the same thing if it doesn't work after two weeks?

The idea is to quickly gather all the valuable items in the center.

Give me more tips on how to counter archers.

Expert Forgetfulness. It's a great ability.

Expert Forgetfulness. A great ability.

I heard it doesn't work on Titans. Berserk also doesn't work on them – by the way, that's a pretty good ability too.

It doesn't seem to work against Titans.

It doesn't work. But it's great against other creatures.

Playing against a human opponent is more beneficial. What's the point of focusing solely on Grand Order on the second week? Even if you manage to reach level 123, it doesn't guarantee your victory.

Something tells me that forgetfulness won't work on liches either. And berserkers, too. Plus, blind.
Lider1 is absolutely right, you're already struggling, you need to urgently play with someone, at least 5 games, after that you can study the replays, analyze your mistakes.

GO at 127

By turn 127, the opponent will have cleared out the entire center and will meet you near your own GO.

Once again, I analyzed the saves of opponents and other players. Everywhere, next to the main town, there is 1 external dwelling of 6th level creatures and 1 external dwelling of 7th level creatures. At minimum. And there are also hives and cons.

YEEEEES!!!!!!!:):):):):):) With such setups, the GO is beaten in 95% of cases!!!:)

Of course it's beatable. The only question is on day 121 or 127.

If there are no external dwellings of 6th-7th level creatures, or cons and hives in optimal quantity (I mean not just one of each:)) near the main town (1-2 days of movement), then the GO is not beaten in 95% of cases.

If one day has passed, you've scouted around and haven't seen anything tasty to latch onto — then that's already a reason to take a restart. If a second day has passed and you still haven't seen anything worthwhile, then you definitely must take a restart. (Better not to drag it out until day 113 and save the third restart that remains for day 111 as a last resort, in case you end up in a tight spot)

Therefore, in the first days of the game: maximum heroes, maximum scouting, maximum exploration

Let someone convince me otherwise!:). Let someone break the GO in week 2 with 3 Gorgons and 6 Wyverns:).

Who needs to convince you? And 3 Gorgons and 6 Wyverns are the result of weak play, or else (if there's absolutely nothing) the generator's abuse. And that, in turn, is a restart not taken in time.

The best way to convince me is to beat me without having the aforementioned conditions. Then I'll immediately believe in it:).

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Personally, if these conditions are not present, I will not continue the game, because why waste time:).

Agreed, a game where the generator screwed you over is not interesting to play. That's what restarts are for. To get a playable generation. (Although some abuse it and hunt for chocolate)

It's better to immediately explain your position to your opponent, and let him enjoy the victory!:). Virtual.

Assessing your situation in the first days of the game is also a skill. And if the situation is bad, you need to take a restart.

And in general, don't immediately go after players of Romario's level in your first online games. Choose someone simpler. GoedenDag has been in a slump for three seasons straight :D No offense meant to him. Try playing with him. Or play with newly registered beginners.

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And remember that: breaking the GO is not only the goal itself. You also need to have a battle-ready army to eat up the center, not just break through and walk around with a hero to see what's there.

Grove respawns are usually much richer than Stronghold-Inferno

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Ideally on Jebus Cross, the best town IMO is Castle. Angels in the first week and upgrade to Archangels in the second. Cases of an upgrade on day 121 are not uncommon. And if there are cons, that's additional Archangels. And Archangels are a terrifying force!!

And yes, you play Jebus Cross, but you don't upgrade your Gorgons. Upgraded Gorgons are evil, non-upgraded ones are crap. Especially since you don't go out in the second week and don't even have upgraded Gorgons in the third.

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Well, and of course, 10 games means nothing. 50 games is already experience. And 5-10 is MEANS-NO-THING. And to make it more interesting, I already wrote — play with people of your own level