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In the kindly moderated part of my previous message, Lider1 claims that the statements I make are inadequate and stupid, basically nonsense. In my response, there was no rudeness or off-topic chatter; I asked him on what basis he considers certain statements to be nonsense?
Well, perhaps he means:
1) 650 million warriors that don't fit into his understanding of reality and
2) Elephants that were launched into Earth's orbit, which is confirmed by the testimonies of astronauts from the Mir space station – this even more doesn't fit into our understanding of reality.
3) Huge, non-sinking stones weighing 10, 15, or 20 tons, with inscriptions in Sanskrit saying "Rama," which are found in the Indian and Atlantic Oceans.
These stones contradict the current official theory of physics, and if the fact of the existence of such stones is recognized – the nature of which modern physics, modern science, cannot explain – then it will be necessary to admit the invalidity of the current academic science. But academics, doctors of science, professors with degrees, positions, and respect – cannot do this. These are all the facts that modern science cannot explain and are being kept silent. (I think these archives will be declassified in 20-30 years) Although, perhaps they won't be declassified. For example, the fact that the Siege of Leningrad was organized by the Soviet government itself has not yet been officially declassified. The fact that no one has ever flown to the moon, that no so-called lunar rover has ever been on the moon (neither Soviet nor American) – is also a closely guarded secret. The fact that the budget in Russia, America, and Germany allocated to research on extraterrestrial civilizations is 10 times greater than the budget of these countries – is also a closely guarded secret. And there are hundreds of such facts. I make certain statements and provide certain evidence; you disagree with them – please, that is everyone's right.
No, really. Your statements are very "adequate": D And most importantly, they are so smart )))
I haven't heard about the stones and what is written below. But in general, keep writing! ))) By the way, think about my suggestion to attach a Word file to the message; it's a good idea! I'm sure users will appreciate it, and we'll see how many downloads there are :D
By the way, archives are declassified after 75 years, not 20-30. And not all of them :D So again, the Jews will hide the truth from us. The real truth. And they have also engaged official science. Yes, and in general, all this science is complete nonsense; why study? It's all the evil that the state puts into our heads so that it will be easier to control us. It's better to go and listen to a sermon... It's much more truthful
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/ За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
I have read the article in Wikipedia more than once. And I cannot even imagine a more absurd theory. The point is that we are being misled by absurd theories, and we swallow them without even trying to understand them.
Your praised Bible is also full of absurdities, if you want to go there, and hundreds and hundreds of millions "swallow it without even trying to understand it." I won't be original and come up with something of my own - it has long been dissected and rightly ridiculed (by agents of the ZOG:)), and I, as a child, was amazed by the nonsense in it at every turn. The book is interesting as fiction, the philosophy is not bad in places, and even sometimes historical, I think... But to perceive it as a "user manual" is, you know:rolleyes: ... ariputra
2) An explosion can only destroy!
Please give at least one example in which an explosion can create a harmonious structure or a harmonious complex object?!
Please: explosion welding, a supernova, a volcanic island - these are, of course, superficial and obvious examples, but I think it's enough? ariputra
3) If we assume that it is possible to create the universe with an explosion, and that the explosion created a strictly regular structure - then we can assume that a spaceship can be built using the explosion of an aircraft factory. These are equivalent statements, and while the absurdity of the second is obvious to everyone, the absurdity of the first is somehow not even considered.
If we assume the existence of an infinite/timeless space and, accordingly, time - then what is impossible here? The so-called Big Bang, in my personal opinion, is only one of an infinite number of such phenomena in our world (Universe or whatever else to call EVERYTHING...), and not the absolute Beginning. In short, for infinity, it is absolutely normal that the numbers from 1 to 1000 will be "777" billions of billions of times in a row, and building an airplane with an explosion is generally a trivial matter:cool: . ariputra
Who is this legislator whose laws are described and studied by physics? If we assume that the universe has a разумный creator, then wouldn't he have created an instruction manual for it? Wouldn't it be logical to study the instructions from the chief designer? If I buy a complex mechanical or electrical device and I have no experience with it, wouldn't it be logical to read the instructions from the creator of this device?
Let's start with the fact that it is completely illogical to deny the gradual development of the Universe itself and the evolution of living organisms from simple to complex, but at the same time to assert that there is a supreme being that is nothing compared to an amoeba and a virus, and that it itself evolved, that is, excuse me, "always existed." In my opinion, this theory is no better than the theory of the self-creation of the Universe, even if you kill me:) . ariputra
The fact that the budget in Russia, America, and Germany allocated for research on extraterrestrial civilizations is 10 times greater than the budget of these countries is also a mystery.
1) If there is a concept, then there is also an object that is described by this concept. If there were no God, then there would not be such a concept as God.
Ariputra, to understand something, you need to understand that something. Your position is simply banal; you personally don't have any opinion other than the obsessive idea of denying everything. By denying and ridiculing the opinions of some scientists, you present the opinions of other, and not-so-scientific, individuals as absolute truth as counterarguments. In other words, those whose position you dislike are mere charlatans, while those who contradict them are geniuses. But the most talentless aspect of your posts is when you run out of material from the search engine, and you simply invoke God, as if He created everything, and you don't seem to realize that the God you speak of is much younger than human life on Earth in general. Before Him, people had other gods, and before those, even more ancient gods, and there wasn't just one or two, but one for every occasion. But dinosaurs, whose existence on Earth you hopefully won't deny, didn't have a god, because their modest brains were not capable of conceiving of one, and they didn't need it. I repeat once again: believing in God is everyone's right, but everything has reasonable limits. I won't hide the fact that I myself have turned to God in difficult moments, saying "Lord, help me," but this is something like when a small child cries "Mom," it's faith and hope, it's inside each of us, and it's good that it exists, it's good that we invented it, it's good that we need it, and you are a pervert
Please: welding by explosion, supernova, volcanic island – these are, of course, simplistic and off-the-cuff examples, but I think they are sufficient?
This is the paradox of our world. It seems that harmony and perfection cannot arise spontaneously from chaos. But, having formed through an explosion from nothing, our Universe is remarkably perfect. Even the smallest detail can be studied with admiration, such as a molecule, atom, or particle. Not to mention such complex systems as life, the human body, or society. Could all of this have arisen from nothing? We claim so because we cannot find a single logical explanation for the phenomenon in which we live.
This is the paradox of our world. It seems that harmony and perfection can never arise from chaos on their own. But, having formed through an explosion from nothing, our Universe is remarkably perfect. Even the smallest detail can be studied with admiration, such as a molecule, an atom, or a particle. Not to mention such complex systems as life, the human body, or society. Could all of this have arisen from nothing? We claim so because we cannot find a single logical explanation for the phenomenon in which we live.
We live in this world, created from the chaos of the Big Bang, which is why it seems harmonious to us. If we assume the existence of an outside observer, born outside the Big Bang, then they might be horrified by the chaos and disorder of the system.
We live in this world, created from the chaos of the Big Bang, which is why it seems harmonious to us. If we assume the existence of an outside observer, born outside the Big Bang, they might be horrified by the chaos and disorder of the system.
This raises another, deeper question: what is order? How can we assess the degree of order and perfection of something? By the way, it's a very interesting question. I can't answer it right away; I need to think about it. For me, it's something intuitively understandable.
Here, another, more profound question arises: what is order?
This is a subjective factor. An ant has its own concept of order, and a human has theirs. An ant cannot understand human logic, although humans have largely explained the logic of ants. Perhaps, in our universe, there are beings who can understand our logic and whose logic we cannot understand, nor will we ever understand. Worms born in manure have their own order (to burrow deeper into the manure), which seems repulsive to humans.
Oelm, I couldn't get through your last two posts (and, most likely, neither did most of the forum readers)! Moreover, I didn't even understand what the point was! If possible, try to formulate it in a few sentences:smile45: If you're talking about the harm caused by one specific sect, I agree; I also believe that sects are a threat to the sound mind of the residents of the former USSR. And although they seem to have become quieter recently (i.e., there have been fewer high-profile scandals with exposures), they have by no means stopped their destructive activities! In recent years, there was a scandal with the Bogolyubskaya sect and another one (I forgot where) called something like "Center for Harmonious Development," where children (including preschoolers!) were taught to swear and participate in strange activities with adults. And I still believe that Ariputra is under the influence of one of these sects!:(
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було… (Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
Finally, I'm returning to the topic of the girl in the pictures. numOne, you are absolutely right!
Astrophysicist, poker player, and simply a beautiful woman In the photo is Liv Boeree – a graduate of the University of Manchester with a degree in physics and astrophysics. And she's also a millionaire... Liv Boeree, winner of the EPT tournament in San Remo, managed to defeat 1,239 opponents who wanted to participate in the No-Limit Hold'em tournament with a €5,000 buy-in. For her achievement, Liv received €1,250,000. Boeree became the second woman to win the main EPT tournament.
Oelm And I still believe that Ariputra is under the influence of one of these sects!:(
I would clarify that "under the influence" is already a stage he has passed; Ariputra is already trying to exert influence. The search engine is silent about Ariputra, but there is a very similar character - Shariputra - in Buddhist tradition, one of the two main disciples of Shakyamuni (the other is Maudgalyayana). He became an arhat, is revered as an arhat, and is the highest in wisdom. Tradition holds that the Buddha revealed the Doctrine of Supreme Wisdom (Prajnaparamita) to Shariputra. The Shariputra-prakarana, a work by Ashvaghosha, the author of the famous biography "The Life of the Buddha," is dedicated to the biography of Shariputra. In the Theravada school, he is one of the most important disciples of the Buddha. Shariputra came from a Brahmin family. Together with his friend Maudgalyayana, he renounced the world and both became disciples of the skeptic Sanjaya Belatthiputta. One day, he met the old wandering monk Ashvajit, who was collecting alms, and Ashvajit told him about the teachings of the Buddha. He immediately passed on what he had heard to Maudgalyayana. When Maudgalyayana heard the explanation of the Dharma, he also had a perfect, flawless vision: "Everything that is subject to arising is subject to cessation." Shariputra was older than the Buddha and died long before the Buddha's death. Ananda, the Buddha's cousin, deeply mourned his death. Shariputra is considered the author of the Dharma-skandha treatise, which is part of the Abhidharma. In the writings of Mahayana and the Lotus Sutra, Shariputra represents the tradition of the shravakas. In these sutras, he is unable to fully understand Mahayana, as represented by Vimalakirti, and is defeated in debates. However, in Mahayana, Shariputra is also highly revered. Shariputra is usually depicted next to the Buddha Shakyamuni in faded orange robes, with a staff of a wandering monk. (please note Ariputra's avatar) Shariputra - Ariputra, I think this explains a lot:)
http://vkontakte.ru/note23833_10705875 Link to the full article where Alexander Koloyev slanders Torsunov, Serebryakov, and all religious believers—real scientists who sincerely try to understand the reality surrounding us—for no apparent reason other than that their views differ from his own. Or it is quite possible that this is a paid job.
___________________________________________________ Opinions and reactions of people who read his article. ___________________________________________________ Poet's Dream, VKontakte
so much negativity in four lines—yessss, one immediately believes that this is an objective view and the real state of affairs))) a wise person does not get angry; the wise are good and light, but this person is very mean. And he uses name-calling. He doesn't walk down the street and scream "you idiot, you crazy!" when he sees a fool, because that would be an inadequate reaction. And there are many fools on the street, and even more reasons for it. But here he behaves this way, yet I see no difference; there should be boundaries of decency and dignified behavior everywhere, whether you are walking down the street or writing an article. Even more so: when you write an article, you are held to a higher standard than when you walk down the street. So if he behaves like this even in an article, I can imagine what goes on at his home and in his life in general. And I don't envy him. And I don't want to be like that) which means even if for a moment we assume that I am wrong in considering Torsunov and Narushevich as worthy individuals—I would rather be with them than with this strange guy.
Poet's Dream, VKontakte
I'm curious: does a person of my age, a journalist by education, seriously believe he is smarter than everyone involved in esotericism? Among them are major scientists and individuals seriously advanced in material sciences. I myself have 2 higher educations, but I hold the opinion—as someone great once said (I can't recall who): the higher I climb, the better I see how much I do not know. the greatest scientists in physics believed in God; Leonardo da Vinci did not eat meat; Leo Tolstoy completely surrendered himself to God at the end of his life. and this boy is, in my opinion, even younger than me, and so far he has nothing worthwhile, nothing valuable for humanity, only a bunch of ugly statements and cheap fame. people like that truly need technical progress. So there can be an internet. So they can write all the nonsense that comes to mind. Because without the internet—they are nothing and have no name. But with it, they immediately become great celebrities) ridiculous.
Marina Sunmarisha, VKontakte
There are always people who desperately want to make a name for themselves, but they can't do anything, know nothing, and cannot achieve anything good. Then they announce themselves through destruction, vandalism, rudeness, and aggression. Such people have always existed. The bigger ones among them destroyed cities. The tiny ones among them pee in elevators, foul their surroundings, quietly beat up a drunk in an alley....... that is, they "go" a little bit.... the imagination is inexhaustible (this, of course, does not apply to Alexander). The whole question is "WHAT DO YOU CREATE?" not what you are against, what irritates you, what you want to destroy.... and how everyone is an idiot The whole question is what you can do, what you can offer, what you create.... and in general WHO NEEDS YOU? whom CAN YOU make happy
Yuranya Sarnenskiy, VKontakte
The most terrible demons are atheists. Definitely, Journalist Alexander Koloyev chose personalities who are gaining popularity on a demanded and newly fashionable topic in order to promote himself. But anti-advertising is also a type of advertising, so there's no harm without good, my friends. The main thing is that he was interested in this topic ))) and helped other atheists through his publication learn about such Great Souls as Torsunov and Narushevich and generally learned something about the immortality of the Soul and the greatness of the Super-Soul ))) HariBol! ))) I wish happiness to EVERYONE )))
Alisa Luzgina, VKontakte
oh my god, what did meditation do to him?!
Elena Zaitseva, VKontakte
A journalist knows how to work with information, at the very least. To study and designate the sources of its acquisition. Looking at the mess this person has gathered and is trying to use as an argument, doubts creep in as to whether journalistic methods are being used. If the Vedas are being refuted, then a respected journalist should state it clearly—that he opposes his opinion to ancient texts. The Torah, Quran, Bible, and Vedas await his study and comments after studying these information sources. As is proper if one acts with journalistic methods and tools. Otherwise, these are comments on fragments of "something" understood by the commenting journalist "somehow." With equal success, the journalist could have protected us from a university nuclear physics textbook, the May 1974 issue of "Young Naturalist" magazine, and a tear-off calendar for 2010. If you speak of science—use scientific methods, in short. Study, propose hypotheses, defend people based on a source or theory. Otherwise—it's a clown show. That is also a genre; it has a right to exist. The rules are different. You are either a journalist or a clown.
Anna Valery, VKontakte
What does esotericism have to do with the Vedas? He lumped everything into one pile. It's obvious he doesn't understand the issue.
Anna Valery, VKontakte
at first I wanted to start complaining and arguing with him... but he wrote it all so stupidly... is he really a fifth-grader or something? my soul actually felt light; it's obvious he's no opponent in an argument, it's kind of funny, naive... I listen to Torsunov; not once has he said anything harmful. He specifically says that one must work for the benefit of other people—meaning making discoveries and so on... rather than trying to become known to anyone by mentioning loud names in his stupid essay. if you are offended, you can endure it; if your loved one is offended, then you must fight to the end to protect them, to restore justice, not to allow offense. Torsunov taught me that too.
Anna Shunevich, VKontakte
I ask for your forgiveness in advance for expressing my opinion; it is your right to disagree with me—read it if you want, or not, and please forgive my grammatical or other errors.
Dear Alexander, why, without understanding what's what and how, throw mud at your own compatriots (residents of the CIS countries) and other humans on Earth who study the Vedas or something similar? Is it professional and correct—knowing the topic poorly—to soil anyone at all? For some reason, this smells like Soviet-period atheism (yes, that is our history; there was much in the USSR, both good and not so good—but that time has passed). The government is different now; our government has other priorities. (Pseudoscience? Why... be like the inquisitors... And you know, I hope, that current sciences were considered heresy and pseudoscience in the Middle Ages, and scientists, and simply many people, were burned without distinction upon denunciation.)
what is wrong with there being people who answer questions that worry other people (and me too (by the way, I was pulled out of a noose) -- I was afraid to ask any of the "normal" atheists, because at best they might scream nasty things, or even lock me in a psych ward). Are psychiatric hospitals rubber? There are too many interested people.
I suggest you look at this "esoteric-schizophrenic..." from another point of view— from the position of benefit for everyone—from people devoted to God to the state
I see a society of completely harmless people united by interests, who: 1) do not smoke/are quitting smoking/have thought about it and already want to quit this REALLY HARMFUL habit; 2) do not drink alcohol/have come to their senses and started drinking less/want to stop ruining their health altogether; 3) do not eat meat/started eating less of it/thought about its "usefulness"; (meat-eaters, rejoice—you'll get more!) 4) do not cheat/"go left"/and if they did, they begin to understand and think that in random sexual relations there is a great possibility of catching an STD or other problems; 5) do not use foul language/started swearing less/again, have thought about it; 6) believe in God/thought about the "usefulness" of atheism/and if they don't believe—it's not scary, their moral qualities become higher; 7) can help with a word/deed/materially/or morally other people who have fallen into trouble/gotten plagued by problems and ask anyone for help; 8) do not mess around with drugs/thought about it and are clawing their way out of this; 9) will not commit vandalism/soil entrances/litter on the streets and in nature etc.;...
This list can be continued, but there's enough positivity already.
1,2,3,4,8 - the health of many people in the country is improving (You are a smart person; you know that medics are sounding the alarm— "younger" strokes, heart attacks, diabetes mellitus, very much oncology, AIDS, viral hepatitis B, multi-resistant tuberculosis; compared to Europe and the former USSR, low life expectancy, most villagers drink themselves into oblivion etc). But this way they look after themselves, their daily routine, nutrition, work; their children's health; 5,6,7,9 - the psychological and moral qualities of the country's residents are improving, they are happy, calm, balanced, confident in tomorrow, respect their boss at work and wife/husband at home, in any family quarrels they always try to find a compromise, make peace and preserve a strong family—the guarantee of the health and success of the state.
Oleg Gennadyevich Torsunov is a doctor and psychologist with a Russian higher medical education. He graduated from Samara Medical Institute, completed an internship in dermatology and venereology, as well as the Moscow University of "Friendship of Peoples" specializing in corporate reflexotherapy. O.G. Torsunov received his second education in classical Indian medicine, "Ayurveda," in India. O.G. Torsunov is a specialist in the fields of "Ayurveda," dermatology and venereology, acupuncture, acupressure, phytotherapy, reflexotherapy, lithotherapy, and folk medicine. Having practiced medicine in these directions for many years, O.G. Torsunov also has proprietary methods of treatment and diagnosis of diseases that are highly effective and have successfully passed trials within the Ministry of Health system. His own method of lithoreflexotherapy (treatment with semi-precious stones, precious stones, and minerals) is effective in treating almost all chronic diseases and has no analogues in the world.
O.G. Torsunov holds two Russian patents for invention: "Method of Applicator Phytoreflexotherapy" and "Therapeutic Napkin." The doctor pays great attention to issues of proper nutrition and daily routine, having his own scientific developments on these topics. Popular science lectures by O.G. Torsunov have repeatedly taken place with great interest for listeners in many cities of Russia and the CIS (Moscow, Almaty, Omsk, Perm, Yekaterinburg, Saratov, Samara, Barnaul, Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk, etc.). Numerous TV and radio programs featuring him were released in these cities.
O.G. Torsunov is the author of scientific publications popular in the CIS: "Treatment of Influenza," "Herbal Treatment," "Effective Treatment Methods," "The Healing Power of Stones," "Properties and Nature of Food Products," "Daily Routine," "Nature of the Sun's Influence on Man," "Raising Children," "Family Life," "Health and Human Character," etc. =============================================================
My personal experience: My wife, after reading his book—"Laws of a Happy Family Life"—began to behave much more obediently; she started arguing over trifles much less. For this alone I am grateful to Torsunov and am ready to bow at his feet. Indra
Many rumors, distortions, and outright lies were spawned by the followers of Father Alexander Khinevich! Ingliism is a religious formation from the late 90s of the 20th century, and is now characterized as pseudo-paganism. But let's tell you more about it. …………………. Frequently Asked Questions about Ingliism (i.e., the fetish of Ariputra) http://slaviy.ru/faq-po-ingliizmu/
Thanks for the information Oelm(Indra), now I too will know what Ingliism is :) And I won't ask you those questions about Ingliism that have already been answered in the link you provided.
______________________ Everything "you write" about the lack of connection between Slavs and Aryans is completely shattered by research from American scientists—haplogroup research: http://www.lebed.com/2007/art5034.htm
DNA Genealogy
Each of us has a "DNA notebook" on our cuffs, in the non-genic regions of DNA, what are sometimes called "useless sections of DNA." In it, as a set of special nucleotide sequences, the history of our ancestors is recorded thousands and tens of thousands of years back. Most likely millions of years back, but our vocabulary is small, and we cannot yet read that deep. This history in our DNA is dotted with reference marks on the time scale, and these marks, or notches, are given by mutations in the DNA. Each of these mutations occurs once every few thousand years, so a temporal link to history already exists to some extent.
This language of the DNA "notebook" has already been translated by us into certain symbols, and the sequence of these symbols is called a person's haplotype. Everyone has their own haplotype, which can be called a "passport," an individual passport for each person. I talked about this in an earlier article (http://www.lebed.com/2006/art4606.htm)). This passport is passed down by inheritance: the male "passport" to boys at birth, the female "passport" to girls (http://www.lebed.com/2006/art4614.htm)).
These "passports," or haplotypes, have nothing in common with genes, and generally with human genetics. A mutation in genes, not to mention chromosomal aberrations, usually provides nothing good. Either miscarriages, or, if the person is born, hereditary diseases, early death. Mutations in those very "genealogical" haplotypes are simply unnoticed by the organism. A notebook. More about them can be read in another recent article in "Lebed"—http://www.lebed.com/2007/art4914.htm
Haplotypes
So, the hereditary DNA passport of each of us is called a haplotype. Each ethnic group has its own haplotype. Each subgroup does too. Each family also has its own. The greater the number of symbols in the passport—the higher the resolution, from an ethnic group to a specific direct kinship line. To describe an ethnic group, sometimes only six symbols are enough.
…… It turns out that Slavs and Indians could very well have had a common ancestor with that same "base" haplotype, 16-12-25-11-11-13.
Wait a minute, between "had" and "could have had"—there is a big difference. Is there not?
Yes. And to clarify this difference, there are haplogroups. A haplogroup is a sign of ethnic community. It is one clan. It is one common ancestor of the clan, marked by a special single mutation called a "snip" (http://www.lebed.com/2007/art4914.htm)). And all descendants of this clan carry this special mutation in their genes, regardless of the type of haplotypes. More accurately, haplotypes are secondary to the snip. The snip determines an individual's belonging to a haplogroup; haplotypes illustrate this belonging. Haplotypes and their mutations show how far a descendant has moved from the common ancestor shared with another kinsman from the same haplogroup.
So, both Eastern Slavs and Indians (Pakistanis) belong to the same haplogroup—R1a. Which means they DID have a common ancestor, not just that they could have had one.
Let's dig a bit deeper
So, it turns out that the ancestors of Slavs are Indians. Proto-Slavs. Or vice versa, the ancestors of Indians are Slavs. Proto-Indians. And proto-Slavs possibly spoke Sanskrit. I can't help but provide a short excerpt from the link at the end of this story-investigation, although other facts and considerations were the basis for this excerpt:
«It now becomes clear why there is such similarity in Indian and Russian folk motifs, why ancient Sanskrit and the Russian language are so similar. Moreover, they are similar not only by some words, as many languages of the world are. What surprises me is that word structures, style, and syntax are similar in our two languages». Let's add an even greater similarity in grammar rules-
Curious facts: Russian and Sanskrit
From the book by Doctor of Historical Sciences N.R. Guseva "Russians Through Millennia. Arctic Theory." Impressions of a resident of India who came to Moscow.
"When I was in Moscow, at the hotel they gave me keys to room 234 and said 'dwesti tridtsat chetire'. In bewilderment, I could not understand if I was standing before a lovely girl in Moscow, or if I were in Benares or Ujjain during our classical period 2000 years ago.
In Sanskrit 234 would be: 'dvishata tridasha chatvari'-
Note that in this case the similarity of the Russian language to Sanskrit is closer than to English, German, French, Spanish and other related languages. Try saying 234 in any of them, and listen carefully.
But which Slavs are we talking about? And it turns out that here we can only be talking about Eastern Slavs, whose haplotypes belong, as with Indians, to haplogroup R1a with subgroups. 'Northern Slavs,' with haplogroup N, descended from other 'protos.' They do not have that unique mark, the snip, which both Indians and Eastern Slavs have. Which once again confirms the common origin of the latter two nationalities.
__________________________________________________________________ Well, you won't argue with the fact that Indians are Aryans?
But for the most part: An Aryan is not a nation—it is a person striving for perfection, living in accordance with the laws of God. Nationality plays no role here. A person of any nation can be or not be an Aryan. Just as a person of any nationality can be or not be a soccer player, a doctor, a scientist.
Oelm, in parts 1 and 2 "you write" very much about "Russian Vedas," about "Slavic-Aryan Vedas." This speaks to your (or those authors you quote) complete incompetence in this matter.
There are no such things as Russian, Slavic, Aryan, Indian or other Vedas. The Vedas have nothing to do with Russia, India, or any other country. They were simply written on the territory of modern India approximately 5000 years ago. They do not belong to one single nation; they belong to all humanity and each person in particular. This is supra-national knowledge. This is universal knowledge about God, about the soul, about the laws of nature.
To Pit for LM: If you are truly interested in whether giants existed in the past, read "The Unknown History of Humanity"—all answers to all questions and contradictions raised here are collected there. ___ Alright, it's already 1 AM, time to go to sleep; good night everyone and pleasant pollutions :)
Link to the full article where Alexander Koloev, for some unclear reason, slanders Torsunov, Serebryakov, and all religious people – believers, true scientists who are sincerely trying to understand the reality around us.
Well, thanks to Oelm, we have finally, it seems, found the cooks who stirred up this mess!:mad: :smile10:
I am grateful to Torsunov and ready to bow down to him.
So, it seems you are worshipping him, and not just "at his feet," but in general: you obediently listen to every word he says and make every effort to spread his unscientific speculations.
My wife, after reading his book – "The Laws of a Happy Family Life," began to behave much more obediently and argue much less about trivial things.
And Vasily Pupkin's wife, after repeated application of BBPE, became even quieter and more obedient! :D And for this alone, Vasily is grateful to the authors of "Domostroy"! ;)
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було… (Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
KobRa_RR
)))