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hellight kilgor - if they meet the conditions specified in the first post... Then definitely one of them is the best!!!
Added 2 minutes later Lider1
(But Darkello likes to merge more than anyone else :D) But if he doesn't merge, he plays well.
I think I'm rushing and failing because I don't have enough time, and then I'm happy that I got free faster and I'm going about my business (including at night):cool:
Hellight. He has played the most games. A good player and a new tournament organizer. He hasn't played much with Kilgore and Darkello, but I'll mention them too. And what about Tvarina? He's consistently performing well, everyone knows that :p
1) I haven't played much with Kilgor and Darkello, but I'll mention them as well. 2) What about Twaryna? Everyone knows he dominates on the Prughe map :p
Regarding the first point, I agree with regret :( And regarding the second point, I also disagree with regret :D
P.S. Sorry, I didn't realize that Amilo's date made him a contender; I checked and saw that it does! Of course, Amilo is one of the best newcomers! He's a very tough opponent, and it's important to note that he often plays with the unpopular Inferno faction - he's probably the only person on the forum against whom I eliminate Inferno (when playing as Haven) first! :D
ShadowManiac
13 years ago
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Twaryna, Hellight, Amiloo, and Kilgor.
Twaryna and Amiloo stream a lot, and that's great.
I propose nominating the winner of the 2012 Newcomer Tournament for the "Newcomer of the Year 2012" award, a talented player:
twaryna
The candidate must meet the following conditions: 1) Registration on HW: from July 1, 2011, to December 30, 2012. twaryna's registration date is 2008 :) Very good player! I agree! But I think he doesn't meet the criteria for candidates :(
P.S. Then I propose Comunguls as newcomer of the year.
The candidate must meet the following conditions: 1) registration on HW: from July 1, 2011 to December 30, 2012. registration of twaryna in 2008 :) Very good player! I agree! But it seems that he doesn't fit the criteria for candidates :(
P.S. then I suggest nominating Comunguls as "Rookie of the Year"
Our song is good, start again... :smile44: Okay. Let me tell you an interesting story about the player twaryna. My registration on HW: September 30, 2008. And my registration on HP or HL was even earlier, can you imagine? And a bunch of victories in tournaments on different sites and online tournaments. But only regarding HOMM5. Do you feel the difference? At the end of 2011, thanks to the streams of Psih, Amil, Sticky, Romario and Crazy, I became interested in Heroes 3 and decided to take a break from Heroes 5 and start playing Heroes 3 from scratch. My first online game in Heroes 3 took place on January 4, 2012 against Jurist. After that, I immediately played in the tournament "Rookie 2012. Winter": /topic/8699/. Where, by the way, we were in the same group with Kilgor (who was later removed from the tournament due to his high skill) and Hellight (whom I lost to). In this tournament, I did not make it out of the group. A well-deserved result, since I play very poorly, especially compared to other "rookies". Let's move on.
My second tournament is "Speed and Onslaught" (February - April 2012): /topic/8881/. 1 win, 3 losses, a couple of technical defeats. Not a great performance and 16th place out of 32 in total. The result is clearly not outstanding.
The third tournament is "FB-6" (started in March 2012): /topic/8992/. Here there is already a minimal level of play. I came first from not the easiest group, thanks to my victory over Protos Arhon. There, the seasonal rating also played a role, since I, PA and Leader had the same results, but anyway, this is already a good result for me. Next, in the playoffs, I beat Goda. And then I lose to Peterius (I didn't have enough experience playing against him, I could have won) and in the losers bracket, I lost to Amil in a close fight. In the end, the result of the tournament was excellent for me. After that, people started saying that twaryna is no longer a rookie, he made it out of the FB group, etc., etc. And nobody remembers that 3 months ago, twaryna was a complete newbie. Okay.
Then there was the M200 tournament from sk2tv, where I almost immediately lost. And then the "Rookie 2012. Summer" tournament, which I won in a hard-fought battle with Hellight. Autumn 2012 - a decent performance in Favorites and generally a good autumn season, this should be visible when the rating is updated. This is briefly my story in Heroes 3 so far. antoshkin
Kilgor fits all four points like no other. Regarding his level of play, I think now among the rookies of 2012, no one can compare with him except twaryna, whose streams I really enjoy. And for rookies, the best indicator is the accumulated level of play, which Kilgor has improved from scratch. Because we shouldn't forget that twaryna came from Heroes 5. And that's like Schumacher switching from Formula 1 to a sports car. Adapting experience is not growth yet.
An indicative quote IMHO. And again, no one will remember that in the same tournament, Kilgor was removed precisely because of his high skill. That is, he initially shows a level higher than others in that tournament and played Heroes 3 before. But I started completely from scratch. And how much I raised my level of play during this year, is it adaptation or still growth? Or maybe I just play a lot and gain experience little by little? The question is rhetorical. hunter98
twaryna - no comment, everything is clear anyway) hellight - also clear darkello - unlike those listed above, he received the medal of "best player of the season" =)
Something tells me that someone else will receive the medal "player for the swamp. autumn 2012", and in general, a good autumn rating, if they ever publish it :p Egor Korobeynikov
If we talk about skill, Kilgor is beyond discussion...
Added after 8 minutes I am sure that if any of the above players plays against Kilgor in a best-of-three match, then the odds of 80-20% will change to 95-5% for any of the above players.
I love such categorical statements. And in general, papism and theoretical foresight always bring great pleasure :D
So, who is this twaryna? A pro or a newbie, a lucky guy and BM player, a good streamer or just boring. It's up to you, gentlemen heroes :)
I love this kind of categorical attitude. And generally, papal authority and theoretical foresight always bring me endless amusement :D
But all the same, who is he, this twaryna? A daddy or a noob, a damn lair and BM player, a good streamer or a drag. It's for you to decide, gentlemen heroes players :)
Regarding your skill, right now you're dishing out quite strong, but you're an experienced, good player, and I wouldn't put you among the top dogs... Against 90% of the forum, you have very high chances of winning... Pit, Marreti, Homunculuss — you can take a game from them. On their template (CM — Jebus Cross at Marreti's...). 8xm8a at Homunculuss'. I'll say right away that you're a top player. (Although I think you don't care about others' opinions, especially anyone in particular...) But Killgor in FB6 played against Marreti... I saw those games. And Marreti won both on wild luck, even though he was so far behind in tempo that in FB main vs main, given Killgor's skill in battles, he had almost 0 chances. 1st game he jumped and killed the Machina on a Shoe. 2nd game Killgor didn't have enough time on Jebus and he crashed with all the skeletons... So, Killgor's skill — he's a top player and he can give a beating to the strongest, while ordinary players without an advantage cannot beat him... That's why I'm so categorical...
P.S. Out of all the newcomers (first game less than a year ago in Treska), I would definitely single out Killgor (skill grew from 0 to a top player). Of all the ones listed above, I watched their games and saw nothing supernatural... But anyway, all the guys are good.
Pete, Marretti, and Gomungulus – take a party from them. On their 8x8 template, Gomungulus is present.
Win on an 8x8 map against Gomungulus? Come on
Dirty_Player
13 years ago
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Why measure in centimeters in this thread? This is a nomination, and the winner will be determined solely by voting, and what criteria people use to vote is another question. So don't argue, but rather wait and see how it all ends :)
In the second game, Killgor didn't have enough time on Jebus and he crashed with all the skeletons... So, in terms of skill, Killgor is a top player and he can give a beating to the strongest, while ordinary players, lacking the advantage, won't be able to beat him...
That's precisely the problem: a TOP player will have enough time on Jebus Cross (he is a top player precisely because he knows how to allocate time properly), and in any case, a TOP won't crash with all the skeletons. I don't want to say a single bad word about Killgor — I greatly respect him and consider him a strong player; it's just that such absolute certainty from his admirer is astonishing...
Moreover, it's been said many times — he didn't start from scratch in 2012! By that time, he already had considerable skill!
That's exactly the problem — a TOP player will have enough time for Jebus Cross (they're top precisely because they know how to manage time properly), and in any case, a TOP player won't get wiped with all their skeletons. I don't want to say a single bad word about Kilgor — I greatly respect him and consider him a strong player; it's just that such categorical praise from his admirer is astonishing...
Besides, it's been written many times — he didn't start 2012 from scratch! He already had decent skill by that time!
As far as I know, Kilgor actually did start that year from scratch and achieved his level thanks to, presumably, talent and analysis of games and streams. P.S. Tvaryna promoted himself excellently.
Regarding your skill, right now you are doing very well, but you are an experienced, good player, and I wouldn't classify you among the strong ones... Against 90% of the forum you have very high chances of winning... Take Pitz, Maretti, Gomungulus and play a game against them. On their template (check out Jebus Cross from Maretti...). 8xm8a from Gomungulus. I'll say right away that you are a top player. (Although I think you don't care about the opinions of others, especially anyone in particular...) But Kilgor played against Maretti in FB6... I saw those games. And Maretti won both on wild luck, although he was so far behind in tempo that in FB main vs main, with Kilgor's skill in battles, his chances were almost 0. Game 1: he jumped and killed the Machina on the Shoal. Game 2: Kilgor didn't have enough time on Jebus and he crashed with all the skeletons... So, regarding Kilgor's skill, he is a top player and he can give trouble to the strongest players, while ordinary players without an advantage cannot beat him... That's why I'm so categorical...
PS: Of all the newcomers (first game less than a year ago in Heroes 3), I would definitely single out Kilgor (his skill grew from 0 to a top player). I watched the games of everyone listed above and didn't see anything supernatural... But anyway, all the guys are great.
I didn't write anything about my own skill at all, and I am perfectly aware of the level I am currently playing at. I have no habit of either living in a fantasy world or downplaying myself. And, yes, essentially I "don't care about the opinions of others, especially anyone in particular", because it's all subjective. I am amazed by the CATEGORICAL NATURE. "I saw Kilgor's game, he almost beat Maretti twice, and therefore he is a top player" — sorry, but that's ridiculous. Hellight has beaten Maretti, Gomungulus, etc. Maybe 1 or 2 times, but that's not the point. He still won, right? Darkello almost beat Cobra in a tournament, and Cobra was pleasantly surprised by Darkello's play. I beat ProtoS Arhon and God, lost to Javdet twice "almost" and to Piterius — I gave those games away on minor details, just lacked experience at the key moment. What am I getting at? I am in no way diminishing Kilgor's skill or anyone else's. Just don't be so categorical, that's all. Dirty_Player
Why measure dicks in this thread? This is a nomination; the winner is determined solely by voting, and what criteria people vote by is another question. So don't argue, and instead wait for the outcome to see how it ends :)
