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By decision of the AK, I am forced to confirm It's a shame there wasn't a single Griffin Conservatory, only one Dragon Fly Hive (4 wyverns), but on the first I built a Castle with 1,2,6. The time was around early second, I had to get up early in the morning, so I had no desire to play sloppily. Ihtiandr, they don't understand what a +7 time difference means. GUYS, to play with you, we stay up all night. I couldn't play with my opponent on Saturday (his connection was lagging), the kid got some sleep and we continued, though by then it was almost 10 for me — I'm not making excuses, because I don't think I lost. P.S. Just curious how many Bulls your four Mages would have taken out??? "Good luck" to you in the future
man, you guys really started a cleanup operation here :D well, suppose he took out, say, 4-5 bulls, but then they could still be used to counterpush against the Angels :rolleyes:
HellLighT, You and I played only one game, as far as I remember, on Jebus Cross. I explained the situation to you clearly at the time — that I was doing poorly in the game and wouldn't have found it interesting to continue. But I added that if you really wanted, I was ready to continue, for the sake of decency. To which you responded with silence. What gave you reason to swear off playing with me? HellLighT
and for some reason, not following his own code of enjoying the game, he gets involved in tournaments...
"Code of enjoying the game," that's a funny way to put it) As far as I understand, players of Heroes are divided into two types — those who love the game and those who love to punish their opponents. I personally belong to the former, I'm not into sadomasochism)) And I get fun from tournaments too. But the spirit of competition is cool within certain limits. When it escalates to the point of hostility, there's no fun left — only negative emotions.
The situation was such that if I engage with 4 angels, I lose not just one angel, but maybe even 2! That is, the angel had 76 hp left, imagine if I had attacked with the angel, taken maximum retaliation damage, and then who would I use to hit the gorgons??? Take retaliation again? Since I was the attacker, I would always have to attack. Tazar was carrying very well there, so I could have actually lost the angels altogether if, for example, the gorgons were defending and I was hitting with the angels.
Moreover, no one has ruled out the possibility that I might have to fight again after buying out Tazar's army, so I need to preserve my army as much as possible. I don't know how much money is there.
To Ihtiandr: you are talking utter nonsense. According to you, I should just waste 5 hours (which we played through; a single FB lasted at least half an hour) just because, at the very end of the game, in its finale, 4 mages would take a long time to shoot. Let me remind you that earlier I made a stupid mistake, sacrificing 11 mages to bulls when I could have simply pulled back and used the angels to finish off the enemy archers (effectively, I just dismissed 7 mages). 11 mages would have shot much faster, but that's another story, and I don't blame the opponent for having 4 mages instead of 11, so why complain about the opposite?
Regarding morale shooting: Ihtiandr, please explain to me why I shouldn't use this skill? For example, Tazar had earth magic, and I didn't! And while Mass Slow was active, my units were just taking full damage! Maybe, for the sake of etiquette, red shouldn't have used Slow?? I have no idea how I managed to win, and here you are writing such nonsense about disrespecting the opponent.
Obviously, a winning situation should have ended much more simply. Bulls kill the wagon, I shoot my load and send the angels in to attack the bulls, but the opponent acted extremely poorly. First, when the situation with the mages and angels had already developed, he left to smoke without explanation. I sat there for several minutes, messaged him in DM, no response. Then, after his smoke break, he came back and simply said "I'm going to sleep, let the orgs decide," and disconnected, leaving me high and dry, creating completely unnecessary disputes instead of a normal, human conclusion to the game, which could have ended in 5 minutes without him chasing my mages.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
Among other things, I saw you play a couple more games after that, with the same outcome, even when you had a good position – “it’s a clear draw, I moved – gg.” Don’t you remember the game with Sevensan? You started losing troops and giving up positions – you just stood up and left… is that chivalrous? Or wait, maybe that’s the English way? Maybe there was a huge display of respect for your opponent? With such moral principles and a strong nervous system, you should play on gamerangere; you’ll find many worthy opponents there.
Besides everything else, I saw you play a couple more games after that, with the same outcome, even when you had a good position – “it’s a clear draw, I’m leaving – bye-bye.” Don’t you remember the game with Sevensan? You started losing troops and giving up positions – you just stood up and left… is that chivalrous? Or wait, maybe that’s the English way? Maybe there was a huge display of respect for your opponent? With such moral principles and a strong nervous system, you should play on gamerangere; you’ll find many worthy opponents there.
You’re making things up; we always finished all the games normally with Sevensan. In the last game on m200, where he had Shakti, I surrendered, and we even discussed the game. And I’ve never left a game like that, in an “English” way. I don’t understand why you’re suddenly being negative towards me; it seems like the problem isn’t with me.
By decision of the AC, I am forced to confirm It's a shame there wasn't a single Griffin Conservatory, only one Dragon Fly Hive (4 wyverns), but on the first I built a Castle with 1,2,6. It was the beginning of the second [hour], I had to get up early in the morning, so I didn't feel like playing poorly. Ihtiandr, they don't understand what a time difference of +7 means, GUYS, to play with you, we stay up all night, it didn't work out with the opponent on Saturday (his connection was lagging), the kid got some sleep and we continued, though it was already almost 10 for me, I'm not making excuses, because I don't think I lost. P.S. Just curious, how many bulls would your four mages have taken out??? "Good luck" to you in the future
I'm +3 hours and so what??? I also sit up at night with many players and so what? Worked a full day, came home, went to sleep naturally, imagine that, or do you think I should play when sleepy?
I offered to play at 7:30 Moscow time, meeting you halfway, which is when I would have gotten home from work and started playing immediately without sleeping, that time didn't suit you, so then I said let's play after I get some sleep. I got home, took care of things and went to sleep, wrote to you that I'd be available at such and such time, and we actually started only an hour past your optimal time. Well, sorry...
R55Max (22:59:04 15/12/2012) shall we continue tomorrow? I'm at work today
R55Max (22:59:12 15/12/2012) tomorrow I'll be at home
Sevan_80 (22:59:22 15/12/2012) just earlier
R55Max (22:59:39 15/12/2012) I can do around 7:30 MSK
R55Max (22:59:58 15/12/2012) or later when I've slept
Sevan_80 (23:00:13 15/12/2012) a bit later
Sevan_80 (23:00:30 15/12/2012) around 12 MSK
R55Max (23:00:31 15/12/2012) would around 14-15 MSK work?
Sevan_80 (23:00:56 15/12/2012) try to make it earlier, 14
R55Max (23:01:11 15/12/2012) okay, I'll try for 13 MSK
Sevan_80 (23:01:17 15/12/2012) ok
Sevan_80 (23:01:20 15/12/2012) good luck
R55Max (23:01:27 15/12/2012) you too, see you tomorrow
R55Max (13:35:54 16/12/2012) Hi, was hoping you'd show up earlier, but now I'm going to sleep. I'll be around 14-14:30 MSK
R55Max (17:03:16 16/12/2012) I'm here
Sevan_80 (17:03:21 16/12/2012) ok
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
Ihtiandr, it's not about what you discussed, it's about the fact that it's not interesting to play with you. If the situation is good, you surrender; if it's bad, you surrender. And you still manage to teach everyone about noble deeds that contradict a normal, adequate opinion... in my opinion, you're just a hypocrite. Thank you for your attention.
Please stop arguing. The Arbitration Committee has made a decision, and all we're doing is cluttering up the thread. Everything was done according to the rules, and the Arbitration Committee confirmed it. What other complaints could there be? I hope this gets deleted.
Мой ник Heroes, и никто не вынесет меня Скажу я вам, мои друзья. Я некромант, я маг великий, и армия моя Непобедимая, огромная!
It’s a pity that Kalababa, as usual, didn’t create a general chat room in Skype for the participants. Now all the discussions have spilled over into the forum.
I didn't really delve into the argument, but I have my own opinion on this. If, in battle, to achieve the best result, you need to make 1000 moves and spend 100 hours, then you should do it. If we have 1 harpy, and the opponent has 100 golems, that doesn't mean we should give up to save time. And if we have archers, they should shoot – that's logical :)
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Couldn't they at least move it to the forum section instead of deleting it?
The point isn't what you discussed, but that it's simply not interesting to play with you. Whether the situation is good or bad, you surrender, and you even manage to teach everyone about noble deeds that contradict normal, reasonable opinions... In my opinion, you're just a hypocrite. Thank you for your attention.
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You drew a conclusion from one game that it's not interesting to play with me, and you even called me a hypocrite. First, I'm not teaching anyone anything; I'm just expressing my opinion. Second, what's the connection between me surrendering in a game and discussing the laws of honor? If I surrendered, did I do something wrong? Third, noble deeds always contradict normal, reasonable opinions. Because logically, there's no point in doing them; they don't bring any benefit to oneself. But I don't like living in a society where everyone is fighting and biting. Therefore, I'm not going to act that way myself, and I'm not teaching anyone anything – it's pointless. But I have every right to express my opinion. However, staying silent in a chat when you have something to say, and then publicly being unpleasant to a practically stranger – that's hypocrisy.
Why delete it? It was a discussion about an in-game situation, and it was within reasonable limits; it could have been moved to the "Tribunal" section. RiMpel2 was faster.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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