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#3190
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A player didn't want to lose an extra army. If you're not ready to chase and wait for him to regain his morale, kill the cart and go on the defensive. Don't like it? Then keep chasing until your opponent's morale recovers.
Qwerty was faster :)
Why kill the cart – to take revenge on it?)) The presence of a supply wagon in battle already guarantees an infinite number of shots in this battle, doesn't it?))
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Personally, my understanding of knightly honor and dignity would never allow me to post such a victory. And of course, I understand that explaining this is pointless. How do you explain to a thief that stealing is wrong? You can’t, because the laws of honor are not subject to logic. Some people simply understand them, while others don’t.
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Personally, my understanding of knightly honor and dignity would never allow me to post such a victory. And of course, I understand that explaining this is pointless. How do you explain to a thief that stealing is wrong? You can't, because the laws of honor don't yield to logic. Some people simply understand them, while others don't.
This is what I was talking about; you simply have your own sense of honor, which many others might consider foolish. In my view, Max played perfectly, and a considerable number of people share this opinion, so I wouldn't try to tell people when they should post a victory and when they shouldn't.
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so I wouldn't advise telling people when they should post their victories and when they shouldn't.

And you're right again, damn it!))
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Ihtiandr
Personally, my understanding of knightly honor and dignity would never allow me to post such a victory. And of course, I understand that explaining this is pointless. How do you explain to a thief that stealing is wrong? It's impossible because the laws of honor cannot be understood through logic. Some people simply recognize them, while others don't.
Well, if we're talking about chivalry, you shouldn't even fight with archers. It's not chivalrous to sit in a castle. It's not chivalrous to attack when you have an advantage. This is a tactic for conducting battle – to outsmart the opponent, find their weak spot, and fight in a way they don't expect. Is there a set of rules, and should we play by them? I'd like to see you play Starcraft when you're dropped with Zealots on your workers for the first time. =)

This is a battle, a war, and tactical tricks are essential.
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Max played absolutely correctly, and a considerable number of people share this opinion.

Considering this, I now understand that Max is indeed right. If everyone considers this to be normal, then there is nothing left to do but accept the rules of the game. Otherwise, they will make a mockery of you and all your principles of honor. I gave Sticky a report for blocking in a match, without even asking what kind of block it was. And I had a really bad block myself. Then I watched his stream - the block was ridiculous, and he whined so much that some random guy asked me to report his block, which I did without any remorse. And Sticky, throughout the stream, portrayed me as a complete idiot, as if I had asked him for this report, saying that it was his problem. I'm unlikely to make concessions to such people again, and I won't hesitate to post such a victory.
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I admit, I messed up. But this is not true.
And Stick, during the stream, made me look like a complete idiot, as if I had asked him for that.
I was actually joking about the block, but it worked, and I was surprised.
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Ihtiandr
Considering this, I now understand that Max was actually right. If everyone considers this to be normal, then there is nothing left to do but accept the rules of the game. Otherwise, they will make a mockery of you and all your codes of honor. For example, in a game with Sticky, I gave him a report for a block, without even asking what kind of block it was. And I had a really good reason. Then I watched his stream - the block was ridiculous, and he started complaining so much that some random guy asked me to give him a report for the block, which I did without any remorse. And Sticky, in the meantime, portrayed me as a complete idiot on his stream, as if I had asked him for this report, saying that it was his problem. So, I will hardly make concessions to such people again, and I will not refuse to post such a victory.
And now, also keep in mind that there is nothing to suggest that your norms of honor and justice are "more honest and fair" than those of others, so there is no point in pretending that people here achieve victory by any means, while you are the only knight on a white horse.
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StickyFingaz
but that's not true

When you're offered a rematch, and you say on stream, "if he wants a rematch, that's his problem," to me, that's like calling the person an idiot. However, I'm not accusing you of anything; I'm to blame myself, as they say, "don't do good, and there won't be evil."
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And now, also consider that there's nothing to suggest that your standards of honor and justice are "more honest and fairer" than those of others.

Listen, you're getting on my nerves! Where did I say that? I'm not trying to teach anyone, but you're trying to teach me. So go away, man!
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if he wants a re-roll, that's his problem
yeah, there was a mistake in the wording.
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Javdet
That's nonsense. In such a situation, you call your opponent on ICQ and explain the situation. If your opponent is a decent person, they'll bring in more players to support you until there are enough to bribe. If they're not decent, that's their problem.
Yeah, that's a normal way to solve a problem. I remember losing to Pete in the final of some old tournament in a similar way. It was disappointing, but there's no one to blame but myself.

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I understand that mages would defeat everyone, albeit slowly. Their approach to the game, as demonstrated by Ichthyander, is "I only play for fun" and "there's nothing to play here, I'm leaving." I personally vowed not to play fun games with him anymore, but for some reason, despite not following his code of enjoying the game, he participates in tournaments... and in a tournament, there's a very important tendency to strive for first place, so don't be surprised that people use, perhaps slightly dubious or lengthy, but effective and "legal" ways to win.

P.S. Not exactly in a battle against me, but in a "Novice" tournament match against me, I witnessed someone using a pre-recorded sequence – an accelerated video of 40 minutes in its original form, showing how they were chasing around with ten griffin and diamond golems, waiting for morale to drop. Wouldn't it have been more chivalrous to defend and slowly chip away at them?
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Albert@s
Why destroy the cart – is it about revenge?)) Doesn't having a cart in battle already guarantee an infinite number of shots in that battle?))
No. After the cart is destroyed, the shots start decreasing from the initial stock, down to zero. Plus, if the battle is lost, at least we can still take the cart with us.
You probably confused the property of the ballista, which has an infinite number of shots, I would venture to suggest.
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Скажу я вам, мои друзья.
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that’s exactly how it should have been calculated: destroy the cart and endure 24 shots, and only then start complaining; in my opinion, in Facebook, they should grab onto any chance.

P.S. Please, someone share a link to the damage calculator.
P.P.S. Never mind, I don’t need it anymore.