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Mizrael
A lot of words that mean nothing. In reality, I didn't insist on giving you a second Castle. After you refused, I concluded that his words and actions don't match (he himself said that "if you don't have time to rearrange or a hero with a mod runs away without an army, write to me"), which is what I told him directly. Given the power, stats, and artifacts, no arrangement would have helped, so all this fuss smells like hypocrisy.

So, I said that, and in the end, my words didn't match my actions?

Well, don't be disingenuous; everyone has some hypocrisy, but in this situation, it didn't win over me. You asked twice and received twice. In this situation, your second Castle didn't affect anything, but how could I have known that? I thought your Castle might influence the outcome, but I still gave it to you, and it took me no more than 3 minutes.

And I didn't ask for a draw to actually get it, but to see how you would react. It's not even about you being obligated to give me something in this situation; it's about whether you were willing to give it or not. Do you feel the difference? That's what I wanted to find out, and even if you had offered me a draw, I wouldn't have taken it.

And while you were enthusiastically discussing the game with me, you learned from me about using Impl in Utopia, saying that it could still be used through smuggling (meaning, essentially, that you don't consider it a major violation of the rules), but then you say the opposite (a gross violation, etc.). And after the question-suggestion of a draw, you fell silent, not answering anything. I waited for 1.5 hours for you to answer something, but I didn't wait. This is what bothered me: you asked me for a Castle at a critical moment and received it in 3 minutes, but you weren't willing to do something similar in return.

Apparently, you're right, and there really is hypocrisy and double standards here.
Mizrael

I won't even mention the fact that there were no battle scrolls.

I used Impl only once in the entire game in Utopia, killing 3 or 4 red dragons with it. And what else did I tell you? Did it really have a big impact, considering that there were already 9 angels, 24 wyverns, and 18 manticores?

Well, then I'll keep quiet about the fact that you decided to fight without Impl, dealing 2200 damage, while having 440 mana. Seeing that I was standing near the Castle, you gave away the Brise's Hat for some reason, and even removed the Titan's Cuirass, taking the Castle at that moment. All of this, at the very least, looks strange.

The stats changed because of the Cursed Armor. Does the fact that my stats changed mean that I have a sphere or a cloak?
Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
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It's not even about whether you were obligated to give me something in that situation; it's about whether you were willing to do so. Do you see the difference?

And what's the point? Whether he would have been willing or not. Why? So that Ariputra himself would nobly refuse after the offer? Your account of events makes it hard to believe in your sincerity. In my opinion, it's not worth mentioning autosaves, and everything else is secondary.
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I apologize, but it looks strange from the outside: to sign up for a tournament, play a match, and then start talking about how the rules are wrong and how they need to be changed.

The rules were known from the beginning; anyone could read them in the first post, and they shouldn't change during the tournament.

Otherwise, it's just a circus.

Apparently, you didn't read what I wrote before.

It's not about the rules being wrong; it's about some of them not matching my personal, subjective views. Where does it say that I want them to be changed? I just shared my thoughts, so that perhaps in the future, this part of the rules could at least be discussed. That's why I wrote it in detail, explaining the logic behind my vision of the situation. No more!

It's obvious that you don't change things mid-stream.

But no matter how detailed you write, someone will always put a different meaning into your words.

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Oelm
And what for? Whether he was ready or not. Why? So that Ariputra himself would graciously refuse after the offer? Your account of events makes it hard to believe in your sincerity. In my opinion, it's not worth mentioning autosaves; the rest is secondary.

Why? To apply the standards to someone who previously applied those same standards to me. To assume the best about everyone in advance. I was simply curious to see if the person was willing to give back what they had essentially asked me to give. The result and the auto-save are not the same thing, but the willingness to give something is, in my subjective view, the same.

- If a person demands something from someone, then they should naturally be willing to do the same - that's my logic in this case.

But do you think I started all this fuss just because of half a point? :) Or to show off how noble I am? :)

In the end, everyone thinks others are like themselves; no one is forcing you to believe in my sincerity.

And in general, I'm trying to answer each of your questions in detail, so that no other meaning is put into the words, but you haven't answered even 100 of my questions asked in the forum.
Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
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Or is it just to show off how noble I am?
- if a person demands something from someone, then they should naturally be ready to do the same – that’s my logic in this case.

Yes, you clearly have a “loan shark” attitude. To lend “100 rubles” and then, at every convenient opportunity, mention it. Faith has nothing to do with it.

If you were really interested in this, you would have found such discussions in the “history.”

Firstly, the ideology of “getting something for free” is not very attractive to good players. Secondly, comparisons with specialists at level 4 are incorrect. This adjustment was made to slightly strengthen the role of mages in the game. Allowing scrolls is simply adding a lucky-card element. Thirdly, this will lead to a “bloating” of the rules; if allowing the use of an Inferno scroll is acceptable, then, for example, a free clone for Galtron, resurrection for Shahti, not to mention transportation spells, are not very appealing.

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And in general, I try to answer each of your questions, and quite thoroughly, so that no hidden meaning is embedded in the words (form), but you haven’t answered even 100 of my questions asked in the forum.
I don’t see the point in answering some questions. Some are not interesting, there are people who can do it better than me, and I am not ready to answer some, I am not a guru to always have my own opinion.
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+100500. What a fun situation. This guy has played on the forum for quite some time. And then he found out about the rules of online games that he was playing :D. Very amusing. Keep it up :D.

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but what is nectar at the beginning becomes poison at the end, and vice versa.
Pit for LM

No changes will be made to the rules of the tournament. In general, it's funny to not know the rules, but to suggest a bunch of changes to them.

Pit, you're doing the same thing. Where does it say that I want to make changes to the rules of the tournament? I just shared my thoughts and logic on one of the rules, with the goal of possibly discussing them in the future. That's all.

I know the rules, or at least I thought I knew them. When I was playing, I had a well-established idea that scrolls could be used in PvE without GM approval, so I didn't even look at the rules about it or ask anyone. If I had any doubts, I would definitely have asked, for example, Gomunguls or Dirty Player, Scorpions.

in light of this, I am ready to reconsider the results of other tournament games with Shamys in "one for all".
Pit for LM

Auto-giving is a personal matter for everyone. This auto-giving does not obligate either the giver or the receiver. And, in my opinion, it has nothing to do with the concept of "nobility". It's especially funny when someone who "nobly" gave an auto-give later "nobly" demands a reward for it. And it's also quite amusing to "nobly" demand an auto-give, accusing someone of a lack of "nobility".

demanding a reward? I'm saying it again, I don't care about this draw at all. The task was to see if the person is willing to give what he "demanded" from me before, or not.
CryptoNight

What the heck, what kind of nonsense is this :D? Is there even one person on this forum who reads Ariputa's long posts? :D

another whiner from the "can't handle it" club :D

well, if you don't like it, if you don't agree, you can always not read it, so why whine about it every time?
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Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
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Yes, you clearly have a "moneylender's" position. Lend "100 rubles" and then mention it at every opportunity. Faith has nothing to do with it here.

again :): I didn't need his 100 rubles, I needed to find out whether he was ready to give them back if necessary or not.

but on the other hand, a moneylender is a moneylender, I'm just tired of writing about my logic and motives.
Oelm

If you were actually interested, you would have found such discussions in the "history".

well, who would read my musings in long-forgotten topics?
Oelm

First, the ideology of "freebies" isn't too attractive for good players. Second, comparisons with 4th-level specialists are incorrect. This leniency was made to slightly strengthen the role of mages in the game. Allowing scrolls is just adding a lucky-card. Third, this will lead to "bloating" of the rules — if using an Inferno scroll can still be accepted, then a free clone for Galtran, resurrect for Shakti, not to mention transport spells, are completely unappealing.

so you admit that level 4-5 scrolls, especially transport spells, are a lucky-card, meaning they give the player a huge advantage and will undoubtedly affect the result. And this luck needs to be balanced by additional conditions of use.

but then why is a level 1 Griffin Conservatory on a native respawn or КЗ, КШ in a Dragon Utopia not considered a lucky-card? After all, someone got a Conservatory(1) and КЗ in a Dragon Utopia, and someone didn't. A level 1 Conservatory and КЗ, КВ, Red Ball in a Dragon Utopia will undoubtedly have a huge impact on the game's outcome, just like level 4-5 scrolls. But unlike scrolls, their use doesn't require additional artificial conditions — that is, similar situations but different rules. This in itself strengthens warriors, who are already much stronger.

Plus, you talk about leniency for mages, but the Cloak — not to mention the Red Ball, which makes mages completely uncompetitive. They are also uncompetitive in taking Conservatories, Dragon Fly Hives, and Dragon Utopias. So isn't it logical to strengthen mages by allowing the use of at least offensive spells without building a Mage Guild? To balance their chances of capturing Conservatories and Dragon Utopias?
Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
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ariputra – this is a tournament where the main thing is victory!!! And the price at which it is achieved is not important!! Mizrael made you. What are we even talking about here!
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P.S. A similar situation happened recently when Amilu played against Maretti; Maretti violated the rules, and he was still awarded the victory...

no, it seems simple; it's just not a case of double standards, but rather quirks of our perception.

and in general, how dare you offend the old-school players, the top players, and the gods? That's not according to the rules.

well, in Maretti's case, it was probably done because he's one of the best players in the world, plus he's a guest who decided to play within the Heroes of Might and Magic framework, and who are we? :)

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Mizrael, please answer why you

decided to fight without Implosion dealing 2200 damage, without summoning 100 Earth Elementals, having 420 mana, and seeing that I was standing near the castle, you gave away the Brise's Hat for some reason, and even removed the Titan's Cuirass, taking Auto-Cast at that very moment; all of this looks strange, at the very least.

my parameters changed due to the Cursed Armor, but how does the fact that my parameters changed imply that I have a sphere or a cloak?
Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
"Неизвестная история человечества. Запрещенная археология (с иллюстрациями), Майкл Кремо, Ричард Томпсон,479с,1.46 Мб.
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04.10.2012 Maretti (red, castle, caitlin, hack) def Zuro007 (blue, fortress, wystan) 132 on 2sm4d(3)

2nd town was castle aswell and I had a swordsman dwell close to it. Could take 2 small cons mid week 2 and had easy way to his town. I took it 127 and went in his direction. Next day he took a min con and I could attack him.
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04.10.12 Sanin (Blue, Tower, Nila) def JustObserver (Red, Dungeon, Shakhti) Jebus Cross 113

We selected all restarts. What eventually yielded was much worse than what I had restarted before. Across the entire respawn: three Dragon Fly Hives, two Griffin Conservatories, and external Gremlin dwellings. There's hardly anyone to even fight in the first week. I plan to gather resources, build up, upgrade the Gremlins on the second week, and then start actively rotating Jabarxas. The plan is weak, but there's no other. However, the opponent somewhere throws the game, and thank goodness for that. Their respawn is much richer; I could hardly have put up any opposition.
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04.10.12 Sanin (Blue, Tower, Nila) def JustObserver (Red, Dungeon, Shakhti) Jebus Cross 113

We chose all restarts. What ended up being dealt was much worse than what I restarted before. For the entire respawn: three Dragon Fly Hives, two Griffin Conservatories, and external dwellings of gremlins. There's hardly anyone to fight in the first week. I plan to collect resources, build up, upgrade gremlins on the second week, and then start actively rotating Jabarkas. The plan is weak, but there's no other. However, the opponent somehow throws the game, and thanks for that. The respawn there is much richer; I would hardly be able to counter anything.
The single Griffin Conservatory did not surrender even to Mullich with just 70 starting troglodytes and a +2 Axe.
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Group L 04.10.2012 Yostairs (Blue, Conflux, Brissa, Ignatius) def Gomunguls (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) 123 2sm4d(3)
Opponent spent all their rests, I spent 1.
111. On my respawn I only saw stables and a crypt, but the Air Elementals were built and from the scouting view I see my native secondary town, and along the road there, an external dwelling of Air Elementals; I decided to play, even though I scattered into 4 heroes.
112. I take the external dwelling, but even with visiting the +MP fountain I can't reach the secondary town by 1 tile due to a well on the road =(. Nevertheless, I see another external dwelling of Air Elementals.
113. Collecting money, taking my native secondary town; I didn't see a better main than Ignatius, so I decided to level him up, visiting the arena with him.
114. Gradually returning Ignatius to my respawn, from there to the other secondary towns (it turned out I have 3 roads from the castle + a road to the ГО). With a scout, I head to the crypt for now.
115. With 28 Air Elementals, the pre-max crypt is easily taken; army transfer continues. Resources are quite sufficient.
116. I break through to the snow terrain, send a scout with archers and 12 Pixies there to take the castle. (The castle guard is already visible through the scouting view.)
117. I take a mini Medusa dwelling with a scout hero. Ignatius broke through on the last road (also grass) and stood near a Dragon Fly Hive close by. Griffins spawned in the Citadel.
121. With 39 Air Elementals and 5 Griffins, I easily take the max Ulis, run to the last secondary town — it turns out to be native too. The scout on the snow finds a Griffin Conservatory.
122. I grab the secondary town, see a Griffin Conservatory and a Dragon Fly Hive in a circular path from there, and slowly build a chain towards them.
But on 123, the opponent approaches this secondary town from below, within Ignatius's reach. Plans are cancelled; with 3 marketplaces I do a full exchange, bring everything I can, and attack.
My army: 5 Griffins, 5 Psychos, 61 Air Elementals, 15 Water Elementals, 12 Wyverns, 70 Pixies. 9-5-2-2, 10 mana.
His army: 6 Pegasi, 21 Grand Elves, 6 Angels, 2 Unicorns, and single Pixies. 6-6-5-3, no spell book.
I made a mistake by not placing the Air Elementals next to the Phoenixes; as a result, after killing the Grand Elves, the Phoenixes fell to the morale-boosted Angels in round 1. I thought I could reach the Angels with Haste, but I couldn't. Then there was very prolonged kiting with gradual extermination of the Angels. In the end, I found a tile with the Air Elementals from which I could reach the last Angel. Surrender followed. Thanks for the game and for the thrilling finale.)
P.S. The game was streamed; here is the link to the VoD http://ru.twitch.tv/yostairs/b/334390158
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