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In reply to Pawo
17 years ago
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Oh, mom, you should work as writers; you've expanded on a topic out of nothing, although I agree 100% about the logic of the Inferno, but the idea that Agrail belongs to the Dark Elves is just splitting hairs. The main idea of the game is to allow the player to play with all types of units, and this is logical and has been pursued since Heroes 3.
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14 years ago
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Railag - Agrail. (Rearrange the letters.)
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14 years ago
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Necro_Gamer
Oh, you should work as writers, you've stretched a topic out of nothing, although I agree 100% about the logic of the Underworld, but the idea that Agrail belongs to the Dark Elves is just beating a dead horse. The main idea of the game is to let the user play with all types of units, and that's logical, and it's been pursued since Heroes 3.
Haven't you played Heroes 6 enough?
But there, Agrail is completely different...
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13 years ago
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I still have one question about the scenario: why wasn't Godric resurrected by the Archangels after his death? After all, unlike Nicholas, he wasn't killed by magic, and therefore they could have resurrected him. I've played through the game three times and still don't understand.
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13 years ago
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I think they couldn't do it right away because of the civil war (Alaric's people simply wouldn't have allowed it), and by then it was already too late.
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13 years ago
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Ment
I think they couldn't do it right away because of the civil war (Alaric's people simply wouldn't have allowed it), and then it was already too late.
Maybe, but why are archangels standing around them in the video where Frida is crying over Godrick's body? Or are they somehow conveying the voice of Elrath?
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13 years ago
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I don't remember what was in the video anymore, so maybe your explanation is correct.
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13 years ago
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Zeratul
But please tell me, what the hell was he killing Nicholas for, only to then save Isabel from the clutches of Kha-Beleth?

The question is, of course, five years old. But, in my opinion, a correct answer never appeared in this thread. Well, better late than never.

Agrael killed Nicholas because he wanted to save Isabel in this way. Agrael knew that Kha-Beleth only needed Isabel, but he didn't know for what purpose. And Isabel was doing everything she could to help Nicholas, to get to the front lines of the battles, thereby becoming an easy target for demons. In the fourth mission of the first campaign, Agrael offered Isabel to escape. But she refused. Therefore, Agrael was forced to kill Nicholas. He also said: now everything will be much easier and much more difficult. Easier, because Isabel will no longer strive for Nicholas, exposing herself to the danger of falling into the hands of demons. More difficult, because the empire is now left without a king, and Isabel, learning that Agrael killed Nicholas, will hate him even more.
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13 years ago
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Yeah, for example, it really explained everything to me... But does that mean that Agrael killed Nicholas for no reason? I haven't played that campaign in a while, so I might be forgetting something...
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13 years ago
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Ment
I don't remember what was in the video anymore; maybe your explanation fits.
Today, I rewatched this video, and it turns out that Elrath himself sent the Archangels as a reward for Godric's deeds during his lifetime, so that they would accompany Godric's soul to him. But then it turns out that he died shortly before Frida's arrival; otherwise, the Archangels would no longer have existed. In general, I still don't understand why Godric wasn't resurrected. The only explanation that comes to mind is that Elrath decided that Godric had lived long enough and done enough good, and decided not to return his soul to the world, but instead sent his gift to Frida instead of a father. (It was thanks to this that she killed Laslo with a single shout of his name). I don't have any more ideas for now.

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And I also don't understand how Isabel could love Railag – the one who killed her first love, Nicholas?! Yes, Railag apologized, and he saved her many times, but I still don't understand how she could forgive him for that? In my opinion, after everything he did to the empire and Nicholas, he couldn't even dream that Isabel would ever love him. After all, it was obvious that Isabel loved Nicholas. If it were possible, she would have resurrected him a second time. In my opinion, Agrail killed Nicholas simply out of envy because Isabel loved the latter. And in general, judging by her oath after Nicholas's death, she was supposed to hand him over to the inquisitors and then incinerate him. But after a few explanatory remarks, she forgave him. I don't understand how that's possible...
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13 years ago
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Perhaps she fell in love first, and only then, without rushing things, Railag told her who he really was.
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13 years ago
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I also don't understand how Isabel could fall in love with Railag – the one who killed her first love, Nicholas??? Yes, Railag apologized, and he saved her many times, but I still don't understand how you can forgive him for that??? In my opinion, after everything he did to the empire and Nicholas, he shouldn't even dream of Isabel ever loving him. After all, it was obvious that Isabel loved Nicholas. If she could, she would have resurrected him a second time. In my opinion, Agrail killed Nicholas simply out of envy because Isabel loved the latter. And in general, judging by her oath after Nicholas's death, she was supposed to hand him over to the inquisitors and then incinerate him. But after a few explanations, she forgave him. I don't understand how that's possible...
Stockholm syndrome.
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13 years ago
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Stiletto
But it turns out that Agrail killed Nicholas for nothing?

It seems so. Agrail failed to prevent the coming of the Dark Messiah; he only managed to delay it. On the other hand, it was thanks to this delay that Kha-Belekh was defeated. It is unknown what would have happened if Sareta had raised him.
Knight of the Abyss
And I still don't understand how Isabel could love Railag – the one who killed her first love, Nicholas??? Yes, Railag apologized, and he saved her so many times, but I still don't understand how you can forgive him for that??? In my opinion, after everything he did to the empire and Nicholas, he couldn't even dream that Isabel would ever love him. After all, it was obvious that Isabel loved Nicholas. If it were possible, she would have resurrected him a second time.
Ment
Probably, she fell in love first, and only then did Railag, without rushing things, tell her who he really was.

Remember the last video about the murder of Biara. Kujin said that Biara supposedly killed Isabel's husband. And then Isabel says to Biara, "My husband, my country, you will have to answer for many things." I was waiting for Biara to tell Isabel the truth, and Isabel would hate Railag. But, alas, a happy ending with wild laughter prevented this.

In short, Railag, it seems, lied to Isabel. He is not as simple as he seems. However, as befits a dark elf.
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13 years ago
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Shukfir
It seems that way. Agrail couldn't prevent the coming of the Dark Messiah, he could only delay it. On the other hand, it was thanks to this delay that Kha-Belekh was defeated. It is unknown what would have happened if Sareta had been raised by her father.



Remember the last video, about the murder of Biara. Kujin said that Biara supposedly killed Isabel's husband. And then Isabel says to Biara, "My husband, my country, you will have to answer for many things." I was waiting for Biara to tell Isabel the truth, and for Isabel to hate Railag. But, alas, a happy ending with wild laughter prevented that.

In short, Railag, it seems, lied to Isabel. He's not as simple as he seems. But then again, that's what you'd expect from a dark elf.
It is undeniable that Railag is not as simple as he seems, but remember the battle video. There were only Agrail and Nicholas, and no one else. As a result of the battle, Agrail wounds Nicholas (most likely mortally) and leaves. Nicholas remains alone for some time, and no one sees him. It turns out that Biara could only have killed him during this period (if Agrail really only wounded him lightly, and not mortally). Let's assume that's what happened, Biara killed him, but why didn't Agrail deny the fact that he killed Nicholas during his conversation with Tieru? Tieru - "But why did you kill Nicholas? Come on, Agrail, there should be no secrets between us." Agrail - "Ehh... it's all because of Isabel..."
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13 years ago
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Knight of the Abyss
It is undeniable that Railag is not as simple as he seems, but remember the battle video. There were only Agrael and Nicholas, and no one else. As a result of the battle, Agrael wounds Nicholas (most likely mortally) and leaves. Nicholas remains alone for some time, and no one sees him. It turns out that Biara could only have killed him during this period (if Agrael only lightly wounded him, and not mortally). Let's assume that's what happened; Biara killed him, but why didn't Agrael deny the fact that he killed Nicholas during his conversation with Tieru? Tieru: "But why did you kill Nicholas? Come on, Agrael, there should be no secrets between us." Agrael: "Uh... it was all because of Isabel..."

No, I believe that Agrael killed Nicholas after all. If it had been Biara, they would have definitely shown it to us. I wanted to say that Railag seems to have blamed Biara for everything, even though she was completely innocent (it's amazing: Biara has killed so many: Beatrice, Tieru, Andrias, and Godric; and yet she was blamed for something she was actually innocent of).

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