Posts from Heroes 6 - Discussion

I wish I knew what it's about...
But the art is beautiful.

It’s obvious that the next expansion will feature dark elves. Not only does the epilogue hint at it, but the artist also gave it away with the caption to the artwork.

if there is any connection to the epilogue, then it results in a glaring historical inconsistency.

if there is any connection to the epilogue, then it creates a glaring historical inconsistency

What specific historical inconsistency are you referring to?

Well, as far as I know, Dark Elves originated from Light Elves when the latter became obsessed with Chaos magic and thus turned to the dark side (like the Sith), resulting in their banishment to the dungeons; therefore, it would be more logical to introduce Light (Sylvan) Elves earlier in the story.

Well, who knows where everyone comes from. Maybe the high elves are just chilling in their Rivendell, enjoying some herbs. No one bothers them, and they're doing fine. But that doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means that as long as chaos hasn't descended upon them, they're somewhere out there.

And they do exist. The prologue states that Slava fought against elves and others until his end – that is, until he was asked to give up his daughter.

Chronologically, the elven schism occurred before the events of Heroes 6. And Railag is a mysterious figure; why wouldn't he live a few hundred years earlier? :)

I would also like to see the sylvan elves. Perhaps this artwork will wait for its time for a couple more years. Hopefully, it will.

It's unlikely that the Forest Elves will be included in the sixth installment. The Dark Elves are next in line, and it's most likely that only one faction will be added to the game. Although, personally, I feel that only these two races are missing. The Dwarves didn't appeal to me, and the Academy is significantly inferior to the Tower, in my opinion. But if everything is clear with the Dwarves (the developers don't even mention them), then the situation with the Mages is somewhat different: not only were they originally present in the sixth part, but a significant number of players are also demanding their inclusion.

By the way, I've been reading various "Heroes" forums... Very often, I come across opinions from players who prefer the Forest Elves, and because they are absent, they are leaning towards the Fortress. Perhaps, noticing this trend, the developers calmly made the choice in favor of the Dark Elves, because their players haven't massively switched to any other faction, but continue to wait. Of course, I won't be surprised if my conclusion is incorrect.

Added 9 minutes later
Irina posted a new audio recording with the voice of the main hero of the next DLC. Let's pretend we don't know who it is.

And Railag is a mysterious figure, so why wouldn't he live for a few hundred years earlier?

Maybe, but he only became Railag in the 5th installment.

Maybe, but he only became Railag in the 5th installment.

Railag is a very interesting character because he has transformed many times in his life.

If you remember his demonic name (or rather, its English version - Agrael), you can easily see that Agrael is a High Elf name. Just like Dirael, Wingael, Vinrael, Arniel. The translation "Agrael" was probably chosen simply because "Railag" doesn't sound very pleasant.

I suspect that Agrael was originally a High Elf. Then he became a Dark Elf, Railag. Then, for some reason, he turned to Urgash and became Agrael again. However, he didn't become a full-fledged demon (remember: in Heroes 5, the Heart of the Griffin, which affected all demons, had no effect on him). Tieru cleansed Agrael of demonic corruption, and he transformed back into a Dark Elf, taking his former name - Railag.

As far as I know, Dark Elves originated from High Elves when they became obsessed with Chaos magic and thus turned to the dark side (like the Sith), as a result of which they were exiled to the dungeons; therefore, it would be more logical to introduce High (Forest) Elves first...

Well, the innocent have been made guilty. The transformation and exile of the Dark Elves are more the fault of the High Elves and humans than the Dark Elves themselves.

In reality, neither the High Elves nor the Dark Elves were ever particularly interested in Urgash's magic (except perhaps for some individual Clans and sects).

The story is somewhat different.

Initially, the High Kings in Erathia were chosen and appointed (there was, in a sense, a democracy).

But 36 years before the events of Heroes 6, High King Arniel decided that his son, Vaniel, would be his successor. Tuidhanna, the queen of a small kingdom on the border with humans, opposed this, and her lands seceded from Erathia.

24 years before the events of Heroes 6, Erathia and the Falcon Empire launched the Bitter Ash War (the very war in which Vyacheslav and Gerhart participated, and during which Gerhart's fiancée, Deirdre, sister of Kate, died). The fighting took place on the territory of the Kingdom of Tuidhanna. Humans and elves plundered these lands, killing innocent people. Tuidhanna asked Arniel for help, but was refused. What was the unfortunate queen to do? Her small kingdom was facing destruction. She was forced to ask for help from the Faceless Ones. But they had one condition: Tuidhanna and her people had to renounce Silanna and turn to Malassa, the Dragon of Darkness (by the way, Darkness and Chaos in Ashan are very different things). As a result of the ritual, the elves of Tuidhanna turned into Dark Elves. Thanks to the Faceless Ones, the Dark Elves drove out humans and High Elves from their kingdom.

16 years before the events of Heroes 6, Erathia, the Falcon Empire, and the Kingdom of Tuidhanna signed a peace treaty.

Two years after the events of Heroes 6 (beware, spoilers possible), demons set fire to Brittig, the sacred Elven tree. The new High King, Vaniel, decides that the Dark Elves are to blame for everything and offers them exile or death. Tuidhanna refuses to leave her lands, and she and her followers are killed. The remaining Dark Elves leave Erathia.

For 20 years, the Dark Elves search for a place to live, and only 22 years after the events of Heroes 6 do they settle in the dungeons of Igg-Shail, near the dwarves.

Yes, of course, it would be logical to introduce the High Elves into the game first (although there is a small chance that the add-on will introduce both Factions). But there is a possibility that the add-on will tell us about something from the history of the Dark Elves that does not concern the High Elves. For example, about their wanderings in search of a home. Or the war of the Faceless Ones with humans.

Raelag is a very interesting character because he has undergone many transformations in his life. If you recall his demonic name (or rather, its English version - Agrael), you can easily see that Agrael is a light elf name. Just like Dirael, Wingael, Vinrael, Arniel. The translation "Agrail" was probably chosen only because "Raelag" doesn't sound very good. I suspect that Agrael was originally a light elf. Then he became a dark elf, Raelag. Then, for some reason, he turned to Urgash and became Agrael again. However, he didn't become a full-fledged demon (remember: in Heroes 5, the Griffin Heart, which affected all demons, had no effect on him). Tieru cleansed Agrael of demonic corruption, and he transformed back into a dark elf, taking his former name - Raelag.

well, let's assume that's the case. Then, probably, during his first time as a dark elf, Raelag was someone from the Clan of the Stern Hearts. Then it's strange that, as soon as he became one again, he immediately went to destroy them.

Back then, during his first stint as a Dark Elf, Railag was likely a member of the Grim Hearts clan.

Why specifically the Grim Hearts?

Why specifically the Grim Hearts?

In mission 3, campaign 4 of the original game, it is stated that demons were allies of the Grim Hearts. And Tralsai from Tribes of the East was also from there.

not by someone, but by the archdeacon of a demonic cult in the Fortress faction.

Why specifically the Fortress?

because only those with hardened hearts were demon worshippers (Raileigh's biography wouldn't make sense without demons, and removing them would be confusing).