Skills for an Inferno hero. — Inferno

Soljie

14 years ago

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It's actually better for Dwarves to level up their summoning skills.

Non-core magic? :eek: :confused: Only if it's for a specific scenario, but Dwarves are already strong even without it...

Там бугага - там Ктулху бродит, Креведко на ветвях висит...

$an4es

14 years ago

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I sometimes take it; there’s a runic shield there – a powerful spell of level 5, which is quite effective.

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MjTh

14 years ago

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Dwarves are already very strong. I recently played on a 3x1 map. I told them to siege the castle. It's impossible to take the castle; the Stronghold, Wizard, and Demon fell, and they didn't even remove any of my units. Dwarves are cool; I love them. They live in the snow. They don't deal much damage, but try to defeat them. If you upgrade a Dwarf's Luck and Darkness skills, they take 0 damage from the enemy; it's been tested.

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SAF

14 years ago

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MjTh

but the best option for a Demon is still light, not darkness

But where will you get light spells for him, unless there are a dozen or so neutral castles and various utopias/treasure rooms on the map? Of course, magic speed and stone skin are still useful, but they are best taken when you are not focusing on light.

Soljie

Non-core magic? :eek: :confused: Only for SA, but dwarves are cool even without SA...

Rune Shield on lava dragons in the endgame battle is practically a guarantee of victory.

Его Высокопреосвященство

14 years ago

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A Rune Shield on Lava Dragons in the endgame battle practically guarantees victory.

What is this Rune Shield? And can it be dispelled?

Дайте мне всего шесть строк, написанных рукой самого честного человека, и я найду, за что его можно повесить.
Весьма хороший попутчик... До первого перекрестка.

Терзающий душу

14 years ago

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Can it be dispelled?

It's easily done. People are just writing nonsense here. There are many units that can easily handle dragons. For example, Death Harbingers and Cave Lords. There are a couple more tricks, but I won't talk about them.

Dwarves are already very strong.

Tell that to the Orcs. Or the Necromancers.

Тяжело в агонии, хорошо в гробу...

$an4es

14 years ago

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The Rune Shield is a perk for Dwarves that grants the Celestial Shield spell. And, as far as I know, it can only be dispelled by the ability of the Messengers.

Терзающий душу

14 years ago

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It’s quite possible.

Тяжело в агонии, хорошо в гробу...

Его Высокопреосвященство

14 years ago

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The Rune Shield is a perk for Dwarves that grants the Celestial Shield spell. And, in my opinion, the only way to dispel it is with the ability of the Messengers.

An Adept can.
And the spell itself can be dispelled without any problems. Therefore, this Rune Shield can also be dispelled...

Дайте мне всего шесть строк, написанных рукой самого честного человека, и я найду, за что его можно повесить.
Весьма хороший попутчик... До первого перекрестка.

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SAF

14 years ago

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Orakul

It’s quite easy.

Is it really that easy to dispel the celestial shield? And with what? Not with messengers or by removing the spell?:rolleyes:

There are a lot of units that can easily handle dragons. Death messengers, cave lords, for example.

“Easily handle” means pecking at one dragon per turn and getting hit back by the lava shield?
And I was talking about the endgame, the messengers die earlier.

Say that to the orcs. Or the necromancers.

Do orcs or necromancers easily defeat dwarves? Hmm, indeed, someone is writing nonsense.

Orakul

It’s very possible.

A very well-argued and substantiated statement:rolleyes:

PS: Maybe we can finish discussing dwarves in this thread?

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$an4es

And, in my opinion, the only way to dispel it is with the messengers’ ability.

No, the messengers don’t take it, just like removing the spell doesn’t work. An adept also doesn’t.

Его Высокопреосвященство

14 years ago

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On the topic: the most important skill is logistics. Just like for all other factions.

Дайте мне всего шесть строк, написанных рукой самого честного человека, и я найду, за что его можно повесить.
Весьма хороший попутчик... До первого перекрестка.

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SAF

14 years ago

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Yes, demons struggle without logistics; it's a necessary skill, but it's hard to call it the most important one.

Его Высокопреосвященство

14 years ago

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They don’t affect him, just like dispel magic. Adepts also don’t.

How come they don’t affect him? Messengers dispel all positive effects. Adepts can dispel with their purification, and dispel magic also works. It’s just a regular spell that can be dispelled.

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Yes, demons struggle without logistics; it’s a useful skill, but it’s hard to call it the most important.

It’s the most important if it’s hard to call it the most important. Speed is primary for demons.

Дайте мне всего шесть строк, написанных рукой самого честного человека, и я найду, за что его можно повесить.
Весьма хороший попутчик... До первого перекрестка.

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SAF

14 years ago

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His Most Reverend Eminence

How can they not be dispelled? Messengers dispel all positive effects. Adepts can dispel them with their purification, and by removing the enchantment as well. It's just a common spell that can be dispelled.

Messengers, dispel magic, and so on, remove spells of light magic, and this is a summoning spell.

It's the most important, if it's hard to call it the *most* important. For demons, speed is primary.

Speed is important, I agree. But if there was a choice between logistics and, say, attack, then attack would still be in first place. Although, of course, this is a very hypothetical situation.
For me, logistics is in the top three most useful skills for a demon, along with attack and defense.

Его Высокопреосвященство

14 years ago

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Messengers, dispel magic, and similar abilities remove light magic spells, but this is a summoning spell.

They remove all positive effects, and Heavenly Shield falls under that category.

Speed is important, I agree. But if there was a choice between logistics and, say, attack, then attack would still be the priority. Although, of course, this is a very hypothetical situation.
For me, logistics is among the three most useful skills for a demon, along with attack and defense.

I don't think it's worth neglecting logistics in favor of attack. The hero's movement range is still more important (for any race). The attack parameter and the damage dealt by demons are already high, but for low-level creatures, a 5% damage bonus won't make much of a difference. It's better to take attack in the middle of the game when you have mid-level troops, and logistics at the beginning. In any case, these skills will come up more than once.

Дайте мне всего шесть строк, написанных рукой самого честного человека, и я найду, за что его можно повесить.
Весьма хороший попутчик... До первого перекрестка.