"Newcomer-2012. Summer" — Tournament History online

twaryna

14 years ago

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Juristis

When you lose a battle against neutral creatures with a geared stack, their total number decreases by the amount of Gear Score.

Well, that makes sense. The person was talking about splitting on a non-geared Town Hall.

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Juristis

14 years ago

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.DiGGeR.

Please provide more details! I'll take a pencil and notepad:smile09:
I'm starting to suspect that the tournament will be won by the most experienced "newcomer" (or a bug exploiter), or some other player with ten years of online gaming experience and a fresh registration.

I hope there aren't any like that here.

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Егор Коробейников

14 years ago

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twaryna

Well, that makes sense. The person is talking about splitting up units in a non-upgraded Guardian Order (GO).

Yes, you're attacking a non-upgraded GO. And if there are, say, 49 giants there, and you attack with a Shoah, then in 20% of cases, a stack of 7 Titans will appear. The Shoah will be killed, but 42 units will remain in the GO. You can only do this trick with a non-upgraded Guardian Order.

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Juristis

14 years ago

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Yegor Korobeynikov

Yes, you're attacking a non-upgraded Guardian. And if there are, say, 49 giants there, and you attack with a Shoah, then in 20% of cases, a stack of 7 Titans will appear. The Shoah will be killed, but 42 units will remain in the Guardian. You can only use this trick with a non-upgraded Guardian.

50% of the time, otherwise it's correct.

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twaryna

14 years ago

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Yegor Korobeynikov

Well, yes, you're attacking a non-upgraded Guardian. And if there are, say, 49 giants there, and you attack with a Shoah, then in 20% of cases, a stack of 7 Titans will appear. The Shoah will be killed, but 42 units will remain in the Guardian. You can only use this trick with a non-upgraded Guardian.

You can do this not only with the Guardian. And where is the bug here?

.DiGGeR.

14 years ago

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So, that's how it turns out! It's sad to hear such news from a player in my group. I think, given the current situation, we need to add a rule to the regulations that a player must accept a LOSS on turn 111 or 112.

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twaryna

14 years ago

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Guys, honestly, you're acting like children. If you don't know about certain game features, that's no reason to label everything as "bugs."

Lider1

14 years ago

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I haven't laughed this much in a long time, and this is just nonsense. And is leaning against the gate while storming a castle also a bug? What about killing a ballista and then hiding in the castle?

As for the probability calculation and the pile of mathematical formulas, what's the point of digging through save files and tracking everything?
It's such a time-consuming task that it's practically impossible to track. That's why it's pointless to prohibit it with rules.

Seeing the opponent's city and what's inside shocked me when I found out. But banning this "feature-bug" doesn't make sense for the simple reason that it's impossible to track at all! And that's a much more important point.

But in general, yes, wait for the organizers to make a decision on this issue; 100 pointless posts.

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WishmasteR

14 years ago

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Wow, I've been playing online for so long – I use this tactic feature, and I remember reading about it in an old article by Vik about Castle, when I was just starting to play. And now they're calling it a bug.

hunter98

14 years ago

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Please provide more details! I'll take a pencil and notepad.
I'm starting to suspect that the tournament will be won by the most experienced "newcomer" (or, let's say, a bug exploiter) – or some player with ten years of online gaming experience and a fresh registration.

These features don't allow you to win because of them; they only allow you to slightly reduce losses in battle. So, even if you know all the game's bugs, with poor skill, you'll be in trouble :D.

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Dark

14 years ago

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Juristis

Let me give you an analogy. You all probably know how to control a single unit, like zombies. But a player who has only played against the computer and never thought about micro-management in battles, never played online, doesn't know how to do that. And has never seen it. And then he starts playing online and sees a stream where someone is controlling gargoyles with undead. And he doesn't know how to do that, and has never known or seen it. Similarly, he might get upset that this is exploiting a bug, that knowing the algorithm for neutral unit behavior should be banned, and that using more than 2 heroes is only done by cheaters.
And I'll repeat again, using auto-battle is not a bug, it fixes a bug.

You're saying (censored - nonsense)... you can figure out how to control a single modern unit, but not this... it's not described anywhere, etc... only through a specific command, and that's a BUG... for the particularly gifted.

Dirty_Player

14 years ago

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You need to understand the difference between a feature and a bug. A bug is a serious flaw in the game that gives a decisive advantage. A feature is a minor glitch that only provides a strategic advantage and doesn't give a decisive edge. The fact that you don't know about a feature, while others do, means you need to improve your gameplay.

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Juristis

14 years ago

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darkello

You're talking (censored - nonsense)... it's possible to figure out how to control a single unit with the modern interface, but not before that... it's not in the description, etc... only through a specific command, and that's a bug... for the particularly gifted.

Conversation over.

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Dark

14 years ago

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Dirty_Player

You need to understand the difference between a feature and a bug. A bug is a malicious flaw in the game that gives a decisive advantage. A feature is a minor flaw, the use of which only results in a strategic advantage and does not give a decisive edge. The fact that you don't know about a feature, while others do, means that you need to work on your gameplay.

I didn't expect such an answer from you, to be honest. Here's an example: on my map, there are only archers. I know this feature, so I fly in with pegasi and easily farm everyone (for example, I've already taken out 7 groups of archers), while my opponent has the same map but doesn't know about this bug, or even worse, doesn't have a unit like pegasi that could fly in. This means that one of the two players has real advantages due to the use of this "BUG."
LITERALLY:
from English – bug – insect, malfunction; originally a computer error, but now it has firmly entered everyday life and is used in everyday life to mean "trouble, malfunction."