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14 years ago
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medstrax
Even when watching the first week, not very attentively, I noticed several flaws in the turn management. And this makes me suspect that the result is indeed achieved through cheating. No one would make such mistakes that significantly affect the outcome.
And as for conducting complex battles, I'm afraid there's no one here to teach me. I once presented a rather complex battle from the Xiedu map, and practically no one responded to this save. This gives me pause.
Friend, let's do this: if you want to understand the issue, people will help you, there are no difficulties in that. If the goal is different, just say it directly, and everyone will understand... )))

Regarding the matter: install the HD MOD, it has a function to view your turn. Load any save, place the cursor on the game field, press the mouse wheel, and in the pop-up menu, select the very last button - Replay. You will see exactly how the heroes moved on that day. And no need for all this blah-blah-blah, okay?
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14 years ago
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Antoshka
Let's calculate more accurately and carefully.
Firstly, it's not 13700, but 14700 (use a calculator).
Secondly, just because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for someone else who tries.
On Inham's map: 3 chests 1000+1000+2000=4000
On Dessa's map: 7 piles of gold 600/1000/500/900/500/600/600=4700
3 chests 2000/2000/1500=5500
1 water mill 500
TOTAL: 14700

I've read a couple of your posts, and it makes me suspect that someone here is just talking nonsense.
It wouldn't be difficult for you to upload a video, it would literally take a couple of minutes? We can then verify and "compare notes." Just the final saves are a bit of a problem; often, it's unclear how the player achieved a particular result. I, for one, couldn't manage to get a certain amount from the upper and lower starting locations.
Please understand me correctly, I'm not criticizing the winners; I want to understand the things that I couldn't do myself.

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Friend, let's do this: if you want to figure out the issue, we'll help you, there are no problems with that. If the goal is different, just say it directly, and everyone will understand...)))

Regarding the matter: install the HD MOD; it has a function to view your turn. Load any save, place the cursor on the game field, press the mouse wheel, and in the menu that appears, select the bottom button - Replay. You'll see exactly how the heroes moved on that day. And no need for all this blah-blah-blah, okay?
Nah, thanks, I got lucky. And what other mods do I need to install and what hacks do I need to use to understand how someone completed the game in 24 days? It's clear that it's impossible to complete the game in that time in normal mode, so there must have been hero-spawning exploits and unit-spawning exploits (and she doesn't even hide it). I thought that there were quite reasonable people playing here, not using cheats. Do you seriously think that spawning a specific hero instead of a random one is an achievement? It's a cheat. You could just as easily use magic-spawning exploits. No Town Portal? Reload. Although, I might be exaggerating here. In any case, hero-spawning exploits were used during the playthrough, at the very least. This is not what the author intended. So, goodbye to everyone. Show me a save where you don't use exploits and just play fairly
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You, Sir MedSTRAH, are just a blabbermouth. And you're worth nothing. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it doesn't exist in reality. I apologize for interfering in the lives of mediocre individuals.
Любая дорога, которую проходишь до конца,
приведет в никуда. Карабкайтесь в гору чуть-чуть, только чтобы проверить, гора ли это. С вершины горы нельзя увидеть гору.
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medstrax

Oh, come on, thanks, what luck. And what other mods do I need to install and what hacks should I use to figure out how Ksyusha completed it in 24 days? It's obvious that it can't be completed in that time in normal mode.
Of course, and the map was also studied before it was completed - they didn't just go in blindly, as you might, but consciously, with an understanding of the future prospects, i.e., the game wasn't played "for fun," but professionally. That's what it was all about - Aistitan asked a pro to show a masterclass on an objectively difficult map. I think it turned out great. A lot of enjoyment from the game, new tricks were found (and the analysis is still ongoing - where your appearance will cause hilarious laughter).

You, most respected sir, were not asked to interfere in the topic if you are far from it... You interfered - so act accordingly... For the accusations of cheating, and undeserved ones at that, you should be held responsible.
medstrax

it's normal, they called me underachiever ))
You have already established your name enough... I wish you luck.
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medstrax

And I'm afraid there's no one here who can teach me how to conduct complex battles. I once presented a rather complex battle from the Xiedu map, and practically no one responded to that save. This gives me pause.

Please, don't flatter yourself. No one here will pay attention to you.

All the top offline players hang out on heroesportal.net (sorry, Dirty, I know you don't care :D).

The fact that I, not being a pro offline player (but a newbie), tried to play your save doesn't mean that no one else can, only that I can't!

Marmot also tried to play, but forgive me, this guy plays frankly like a newbie. But he has a different goal. He plays for fun, not for results.

Therefore, drawing conclusions based on my attempt and Marmot's attempt with that save is simply foolish!

But there are people who can teach you how to play. There are many people who play Heroes much better than you.

For example, DmitriyAS, Antoshka, Xeniya, Dirty – I would definitely listen to the opinions of these people.
medstrax

Do you seriously think that finding a specific hero, instead of a random one, is an achievement? It's cheating.

What's the difference between finding him in HD mode and reloading the same save n times until you find the hero you want?

The difference is only in saving your own time.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
14 years ago
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For MedStrakh :) I checked all the logs, everything matches up. Everything is actually passable; I also had a couple of questions, but I figured them all out. The results are final, and I told Gorbik to make the payments. Of course, you have the right to ask questions if you have doubts about a particular case, but if you ask them after every move the hero makes, it seems like your game isn't quite up to a professional level yet. Then read about how tournaments are held at speed. Watch complex battles in the school of mastery. It doesn't really matter to me whether you transfer $100 or not, although if you do, I'll consider you a decent HW player who keeps his word. If not... then I probably won't answer your questions again, and I'll consider you a bluffer :) In any case, I'll organize another tournament in approximately September, with a complex but smaller map, I think S-M-L.
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14 years ago
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medstrax
I already noticed a number of flaws in turn management while watching the first week, not very attentively.
If we take a comparison from real life, it reminds me of how a failing student quickly skimmed through a doctoral dissertation and immediately found "a number of flaws." In other words, a person who was sure that the game couldn't be completed in 3 months is finding flaws in someone who managed to complete it in 1 :D

And regarding the "flaws," you've only started watching the first few days and have already embarrassed yourself three times!
First, you didn't understand where the extra 8 angels came from. (it turns out that angels only live in the castle; there's no other way to get them :D)
Then, you didn't understand where Tolikandro got an angel on day 114 (even though a conservatory is above the castle).
You couldn't correctly calculate the resources collected and accused someone of cheating.
I'm afraid to show my saves, or they'll ask where the 14k liches came from :D

You're really acting like a clown. If you want to figure things out, ask for STEP-BY-STEP saves, where literally every step of each hero is saved. Don't be lazy; go through all 1000+ saves, and such stupid questions will disappear, and you'll get answers to the rest with pleasure. Otherwise, it looks like you're just being stubborn.
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All the offline hero elite hang out on heroesportal.net
All the offline elite is in the shadows :D The HW team sends their greetings ;)
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medstrax
In any case, during the playthrough, hero-digging was used, at the very least. This is not what the author intended. Therefore, goodbye to everyone. Show me a save where you don't dig and play fairly.

Well, this isn't even funny anymore. The game was played according to the rules of heroesportal.net, which not only allows hero-digging but also provides the hero-digging program itself.
You're trying to pass off save-loading as cheating, but it's a cornerstone of all offline tournaments. You're wrong.
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In reality, there are very few heroes on this map, and you can manually find the one you need. The real question is – why bother?
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medstrax
Oh, thanks a lot, what luck. And what other mods do I need to install and what hacks should I use to figure out how Xyuha completed it in 24 days? It's obvious that it's impossible to complete it in that time in normal mode, so there were hero exploits and unit exploits (Xyuha doesn't even hide it). I thought that there were quite adequate people playing here, not using cheats. Do you seriously think that finding a specific hero instead of a random one is an achievement? It's a cheat. You could as well use magic-exploit tools. No Teleportation? Overload. Although, I might have exaggerated here. In any case, hero exploits were used during the playthrough, at the very least. This is not what the author intended. So, goodbye to everyone. Show me a save where you don't exploit, but play fairly.


Firstly, I completed it in 72 days. It seems like 3-2-1 "WITHOUT a single program." The only program I used was the "map editor," which allows you to view the map.
Secondly, we played according to the Heroesportal rules. And there, you can use all programs except those that help with the game.
Cheats are not allowed - bugs are not allowed either. The list of bugs is in the topic.

So, can Medstrax be considered a liar?
In reply to iceTiTaN
14 years ago
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The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on. I asked for a video about the money-making strategy I mentioned earlier to be posted. Show me, if it's not that difficult. Or is it really that difficult, to the point where cheating is necessary? I didn't understand how so much money can be accumulated in a single day. Sorry. But if I have to pay $100 to every idiot who shouts that they're the best and completed it in 13 days, then unfortunately, I won't have anything to eat myself. It's perfectly natural that I want to verify everything thoroughly. It's perfectly natural that I haven't played this map in years and forgot that it has join points and canned goods. It's perfectly natural that someone who wants to earn $100 should justify their claim to it. Right? Disprove me.

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Regarding the "hero-farming" strategy, I'll point out to the newbies that a merged hero never goes first in the stack. This means you save at least 2500.
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If you don't understand how to gather several piles of gold in the early days and you need a video for that, what will happen next? :D Will you demand a video of the entire walkthrough? :D :D :D
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14 years ago
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Yes, Dirty, yes. I didn't understand and didn't see how to do it, and Antoshka's words don't help here. Therefore, I'm asking for explanations or a video. Honestly, it's not difficult to record one turn and upload it to YouTube. Or make a step-by-step guide: here I took 100, here 300, here...
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medstrax
Yes, Dirty, yes. I didn't understand and didn't see how to do it, Antoshka's words don't help here. Therefore, I ask for explanations or a video. Damn, it's not difficult to record one turn and upload it to YouTube. Or make a step-by-step guide,
here I took 100, here 300, here...

No... one turn isn't difficult, I'll get to it now that you've mentioned it.
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А так играют Мастера! :smile13:
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Regarding hero-copping, I’ll note for noobs that a defeated hero never goes first in the stack. So you save at least 2500.
I take it you’ve never used hero-cop yourself and don’t know how it works? You think it instantly puts the desired hero first in the list???? Holy crap. Naturally, to hire the hero you need, everyone buys the first random one, and only THEN does hero-cop give you the next one, which is the one we’re looking for. So in total, you spend 5000 gold on the right hero. Another thing is, when we buy him out, we order the next needed hero underneath him, and so on... That’s standard procedure; you can play that way even without the program—just if the right one doesn’t show up, load a save and buy again, check... A couple hours of time, and the right one will come... The excavator only saves the player time.

This is just on the topic of noobs...

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Nah.. one move isn’t hard, I’ll get to it now since that’s how the cookie crumbles )
Tolik, the issue isn’t one video — putting that together isn’t hard; the issue is you’ll spend time, and then that guy will say, “Now give me a video of the next day, how you got on the boat—I don’t get it, it’s not on the map...” :D He told Ksyukha she cheated with red, saying he went to her but she didn’t come to him... then he didn’t find the angels, then he FORGOT there’s canned food on the map — but looking with his own eyes, apparently, isn’t a lordly thing to do... He’s just messing around.
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