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Offline Ment
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this thing, in a way, says "I'm not a doctor," which is already significant information. And if this thing is used in a specific context, it can be a hint that there is some kind of protection.
Complete nonsense. Many people (including myself) can easily give instructions to a doctor if he is a doctor himself. We just need to find a way to disguise it.
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Red, you're the only one complaining here; notice that everyone else is fine with it.
No, to be honest, I don't like hints either, although my dislike mainly concerns unsubstantiated hints, when it's easy to do without them.
 

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Offline Siverfale
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But is it worth allowing statements like "don't let the doctor come to me"? This phrase, in a way, says "I'm not the doctor," which is already significant information. And if this phrase is used in a specific context, it can be a hint that there is protection. And that's already an element of the role. So, how is this interpreted as a violation?
In my opinion, such hints are good and should be left as they are, because they are subtle enough and can be used by the Mafia, for example. Again, Ment correctly pointed this out.
But who am I to judge?
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Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Online now Arandor
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Sometimes there are hints about blocking, when someone gets blocked and is suspected, and they write that they were in a block and there are no non-disclosure agreements regarding the city, so there's a chance they're peaceful. This is fine because players can figure it out and assume it themselves. But when someone just reveals their role in a note or through hints in the thread, it's a bit much. lol, I have a bad role, so I'll reveal it.

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Offline Рудый
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Lord Mortulus
You're the only one complaining here; notice that everyone else is satisfied.
Try to understand the difference between "complaining" and "suggesting" or "pointing out." It's like a homework assignment.
And honestly, you'd make a good politician. One of ours, a true Russian.

To everyone else who expressed their opinion: there's an idea to establish acceptable limits for hints. If I pass the test, I can write something up tomorrow or the day after; you can criticize it, change it, or reject it altogether if it's not needed.

жизни выцветшие карточки хлам
лиц расквашенные лампочки хлам
между жидких начинаний
сам в крови воспоминаний
поваляться захотел


Молодое зло телами в масле
Застилает взор багровый зной
Если хочешь ты чтоб я был счастлив
Наизнанку вывернись со мной
Бахромою плоть дурная драма
До рассвета нервы в решето
Валидола вмажь по вене мама
За моё счастливое ничто
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Offline ToX
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For me, Mafia is primarily not about gameplay grinding, but about the setting. Now I don't have to write role-playing notes just because the players, lol, immediately realize it's me? That's your problem. If you don't like it, create fake accounts.
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Offline Саня Изи
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If it were possible to make this border truly strict and mathematical, that would be good.

I don't want your math.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
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Offline Ple-Sen
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For me, Mafia is primarily about the setting, not the gameplay itself.
Perhaps it would be better to switch to a tabletop role-playing game (TTRPG) in that case? Or to special role-playing Mafia games? Those are also organized. I remember there was even an incident here.
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Offline ToX
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Ples, do you have any objections to my participation in the current Mafia games?
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Offline Ple-Sen
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No, I’m just offering advice.
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Offline ToX
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I enjoy playing for the gameplay, but it's much more enjoyable to do so in an interesting setting!
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Offline Саня Изи
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Try to grasp the difference between "complaining" and "suggesting"/"pointing out." It's almost like a homework assignment.
And honestly, you'd make a good politician. One of ours, a true Russian.

Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
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Offline Zybr
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For me, Mafia is primarily not about gameplay and obsessively trying to win, but rather the setting itself.
Now I don't have to write role-playing notes just because players will immediately figure out that it's me?
That's your problem. If you don't like it, create fake accounts.
Your problem is that you always play to win by any means necessary. And moreover, for personal victory. And somehow this becomes other people's problems because it sometimes interferes with them. As part of the mafia, you often do quite well on this wave, despite a very peculiar style, but outside of it... In recent games, your role has always stood out brightly, and not at all because of being exposed in the newspaper as an ND (Night Detective), but because of notes and very obvious hints.
Initially, Mafia is a struggle between an organized minority and an unorganized majority. But if half of the townspeople are clearly hinting that they are on the side of the town, even without having a specific role, what can the mafia do? This turns into a battle between two organizations, where those who have more members will naturally have the advantage.
At the end of the game, it's okay when several NDs have already exposed you, and further denial or mystery will only serve as additional fuel for the players; then you can consider softening the rules. But this is the ending of the game (and just one possible outcome) in which information is already publicly available anyway, and roles are obvious, so any extra exposure won't affect the course of the game. (perhaps this is the limit?)


And by the way, there's psychological Mafia for fans of subtle hints.

P.S. Read Tory's post about behavior in the last Mafia game. There are many things I think are right.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Драккошка
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What if half of the townspeople clearly indicate that they are on the town's side, even without having a specific role? What should the Mafia do?
They should also indicate that they are on the town's side, even without having a specific role. Your Captain.
А, вот почему.

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Offline Zybr
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They are also hinting that they are on the city's side, even without having a specific role. Your Captain.
They risk being exposed the very next day based on the results of the night.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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