Posts from Турниры HeroesWorld Cup & World Cup - 2012

I read the responses.
The two questionable episodes regarding the games remain as they were.

1. Regarding the treasure, many have already written about it, and I even rewatched the save in the replay. Kiry didn't scout more territory than Tyraxor when heading to the library on turn 124. At the same time, the latter returns to the exit of the metro, completing turn 124.

Google translated his comment as: "The next day, I didn't find anything interesting in this area, so I returned to get the armor."

But as we can see, Tyraxor returned to the metro exit on turn 124, i.e., before Kiry's scouting, which already looked like a formality on turn 125.

I also don't like the breastplate situation. When entering the metro, it's clearly a good idea to break through the guards in the treasure room to get the stones and take the breastplate with an expert tactic. Noobs scout both treasure rooms simultaneously, and there's no need to return to the breastplate, which you're currently passing by.

2. The boots are balanced.
We run along the road to the Guardian of Order, scouting for goodies. Let's assume that elves are guarding the area, and he's afraid of them. I don't have the saves for this game right now to recheck, but I remember he went on these searches with only 5 horses (although I took a screenshot with the full powerful army) and attacked the air units only with them, so as not to lose the archers to the storms, as a result of which he lost 2 horses, although it could have been done without losses.

And regarding the Consul 3, it's just ridiculous. We need to directly ask about the use of additional programs. If this was the case for some reason, then at least it needs to be eliminated in the future.

In general, as they say, vague doubts remain...

I had one game where I was forced to enter the Griffin Conservatory without scouting or just surrender. The Griffin Conservatory turned out to be necessary and the game was won. I don’t know how critical it was to enter without scouting in that situation, but situations do happen. In general, if you enter the Griffin Conservatory without scouting, check whether you can take out a level 3 with Horde. The maximum chance is 10%

Griffin Conservatory without scouting doesn't mean anything, unless the troops are specifically for a [2/3] week and the Throne Griffin Conservatory happens to have exactly 2 angels. I myself not only have never taken a Griffin Conservatory without scouting, I don't even remember games where I scouted Griffin Conservatories - I feel sorry for the noob :) I can take a week 2-3 with any Castle by week 2, and when cases with max difficulty occurred - I managed those too, but I understood there was a risk of losing, yet some kind of maximalism is present in the game, and I won't scout noob Griffin Conservatories. Maybe for this I can be called a noob, maybe a risky player, but a cheater - I wouldn't say that. There are other moments more deserving of attention.

Explanations about the conservatories are not good.

1. "I knew that the first con has more than 3 angels." Not true, he knew it could be 2, 3 or 4. And didnt check size untill 121 even though he beat the guards 111.

2. ", I found that this con also has strong guards. I had no choice but fought." He dosent have to fight the one he is closest to. There is one with unknown size that he can check the size of the same day.

3. He has 3 scouts very close. 2 cons with "throng" size and still he dosent attack with a scout to find out the exact size. Anything but stacks of 20 and its game over.

hello maretti, i'm the translator. it's my fault. i missed some informations.
1. thinkeer forgot the exactly number of the guard. he just want to say that the first one is a big con. as the first con is beside the road, he can take it anytime. so he choosed the second one beside him to fight.

2. he was going to give up the game that day. economy was so bad. he had sold a lot of resources when building behemoths, and he lost one behemoth in the first week. it is difficult for him to farm in treasure area only with 4 behemoths. and he didn't have money to build in his town. he was frustrated. cons are the last wishes. it was just a risk. so he had to fight.

3.checking the third one and coming back cost two days, he did not want to wait. if the con beside him was 2, he could do everything without delay. if not, he would surrender. he did not want to continue a terrible game.

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Spell, i think this guy talk shit. Just cheat all time and bla bla bla about it. Me (And not just me) Dont trust him anymore. And it dosent matter, what he say about it ok.

actually, all the chinese players trust thinkeer. he had played heroes3 with us for 8 years. nobody ever thought he was a cheater. he won the gold medal for several times in china. and lots of them are in off-line games with judges and audiences sitting beside him. he is extremely efficient and scheduled. and he had played on balance for more than 1000 games. he knows what he should do everyday and where to find artifacts in balance maps.

we have a different heroes3 style with you. as we like playing desert war and hit-and-run is allowed in all maps, we extremely focus on logistics. that's why kyrre, gunnar and dessa are restricted in china. we won't let the main hero do anything unnecessary, so you will find that we are choosing the ideal trajectory. every player in china was told it in his first class by experienced player. it is easy to understand why we are trying our best to make sure that the main hero will move farthest in the next day.
and we also have a different understanding on skill tree. we believe that one expert skill is more useful than three basic skills. so we seldom learn new skills if we haven't got enough expert skills.

while, we don't care who win the finals. we come here just because we enjoy playing with friends who have the same hobby with us. We began to play 8mm6a and jebus just before the games between our two forums. we examined, discussed and finally decided 4 most reliable players to take part in this tournament. we are 5 hours earlier than moscow and most of our players are farthers. sometimes, it was early in the morning when they finished one game. is it necessary to cheat in the games? why? Is it worth trampling the effort sticky and lots of other players in our two forums have made in more than two years?

I’m so disappointed.

it's like scratching each other's backs... There are no explanations for the posed questions, but rather evasions of the topic... The emphasis was placed on the fact that there is a different gameplay style, but what exactly does it consist of? If you ignore the skill tree, there are still questions about the path... the Chinese are clearly moving away from this... Personally, I have one last question: what will happen next, and what will the remaining players decide?

The emphasis was on the fact that it's a different playstyle

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You've got no vision for this movie
I also wondered how even on HeroesWorld some top players refuse to go land-air or their upgrades - like tempo decided it. As for movement in rough terrain - very rarely, but it happens to me when an empty treasure zone is predicted --%)

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Spell. We just think, what he played with open map. Whats all. Maybe he good (best) played in China, but... Its just soooo suspected.

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P.S. if he will play with Trans. his games, for all players can see his gaming, maybe we can change out decision.

we don't mind being broadcasted. but he has a very bad connection. so i have to discuss with my friends to find a solution first.

Sevennsan, you write as if you speak on behalf of the entire community. And quite rudely, at that. Aren't you taking on too much?

Sevennsan, you write as if you speak on behalf of the entire community. And quite rudely, too. Aren't you taking on too much?

Let him write; others are just silent...

spell5632, Thank you for your help and good words about our friendship.
Its more important even if we will catch any cheater.

I understand that we can not find full evidence for cheating. Only suspicion, hints for cheating.
I saw the saves oly one game Thinkeer-Gomunguls (2sm4d) and found (as and many others gamers inc.Maretti) strnge things:
1. conservatories
2. visiting of library and exit from that zone without future observe (please look on this save - Kyrre checked this zone only after Tyraxor exit).

i will repeat - i'm and many others can not confirm of cheating, only suspicion.

I can advise to judges continue the tournament and be higher to any situations. We play for enjoy, not for results.
We know that we have strong skill, in China also exists many very strong players. And better way for us is friendship, not war :)

PS. I have a personal question to you, spell5632:
have you special program or hear about it, which can allow to see conservatories size, utopia' artefacts and so on?
I know from my Chinese friend that in China exists many programs for heroes3 - we took one - hmmLighter which allow to change troops between hero by one click. Also i saw your program which write video of moves and battles.
Also i would like to know about program which calculate the time of movements: my Chinese friend told me one time that my turns=134 minutes, his - 126. After it I understood that you have more programs...
I would be grateful to you for any information about the subject.

Topic about streaming: I have a question – I'm not very knowledgeable about the technical side, but if someone does a stream and their computer is connected to a network or another computer, could someone secretly open the save file from that other computer? In general, if such a scenario is possible, then the topic of streaming doesn't really matter...

you can specify the rules for recording the stream for him (close the folder, use full-screen mode, etc.), and let him record the stream locally on his computer and upload it later.