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Posts from Турниры HeroesWorld Cup & World Cup - 2012
By the way, regarding the Chinese player's additional content. Where is the guarantee that he isn't aware? After all, he was a decent guy who posted tutorials about the Moon... In short, it's not a certainty that Thinkeer will necessarily provide us with the facts we want.
I took a closer look at the Gomunguls and Thinkeer game.
The short conclusion: To quote a friend of mine: "crap play started the moment he picked tyraxor so no cheat there"
The strange leveling up: I guess he simply wanted to get exp log asap. If he takes air he gets armor after exp air, and he has haste in the inferno guild. So no cheat there.
He leaves a con in his area with 3 angels and goes to t-area with no book. Im pretty sure he was planning to get back and take gomunguls town 131 or to return to the t-area. He has to go back the day he goes back in order to get mana and be able to take the town 131. He has to go back sooner or later anyway, since he dosent have a book. Even though he sees boots he leaves them since they are heavily guarded and he cant take them and get back the same day.
He has an exstremly good map but could still have lost if gomunguls had cared to get slow on his main and some mana too. The play is untraditional (bad) but there is no cheating here in my opinion.
You beat them easily because they are only 11 and there are no upgrades. It could be 19 with upgrades. And still he wont make it back the same day if he beats them.
19 not could be I think he saw Gomunguls hero in the danger zone and forgot about the boots:))))
Added after 38 minutes Maretti
The short conclusion: To quote a friend of mine: "crap play started the moment he picked tyraxor so no cheat there"
That friend wouldn't happen to be Blackknight?
Added after 5 minutes Damn it, now in Russian. Maretti thinks it was a clear plan to not take the Griffin Conservatory and head into the unknown for goodies in order to then rush. Hats off — truly a boss move.
P.S. Also, Vitalya-Gomunkul described how a Chinese player checked the Conservatory in a game against Mike)) definitely a fatherly touch, mere mortals aren't given such insight.
So, guys were arguing about how the Baev clan mocked Billy, but I wonder what position each of them would take if they themselves were in Billy's opponent's shoes? Especially under those conditions of impunity...
In my opinion, if I didn't know what the cons were, I would DEFINITELY check the first two, and if they both have 100+ resources, I would START with the one near the road and then go to the unknown one. But in that game, it wasn't like that. And there are no problems in planning your moves so that you start with the resource near the road and then take the hidden one, but HE built it in such a way that he starts with the central one. That's what happened.
He leaves a con in his area with 3 angels and goes to t-area with no book. Im pretty sure he was planning to get back and take gomunguls town 131 or to return to the t-area. He has to go back the day he goes back in order to get mana and be able to take the town 131. He has to go back sooner or later anyway, since he dosent have a book. Even though he sees boots he leaves them since they are heavily guarded and he cant take them and get back the same day. .
question: 2 days may not be enough to capture the enemy's location. Because he does not know how long to go there .. why he had not by a book and did not go there right through the Conservatory, but spent the night in a his castle?
@Javdet: He should have done many things diffrently to play it perfectly. I think the reson is that he simply played it badly. And no, its wasnt black_knight.
@Sevensan: You have a point there. He dosent check the size of any of them and is "lucky" to start out with the smallest one. Normally if you run the risk you can handle 150, and he cant here. But then again, the way he played this... I wont jump to any conclusions.
I sincerely apologize, but due to the current situation, I am forced to withdraw from the tournament. Thank you, Neo, for the games, and good luck against Maretti.
I sincerely apologize, but due to the current situation, I am forced to withdraw from the tournament. Thank you, Neo, for the games, and good luck against Maretti.
It's a shame that, due to the same situation, Maretti will advance to the final without a match. I also have to withdraw from the tournament. Thank you, Pit, for the interesting and engaging games, and for the heroic spirit you showed in them.
Firstly, the decisions were made exclusively by those who were authorized to do so, after carefully reviewing the save files with Rebellious' explanations for each episode.
The organizer's silence is dragging on. A strange pause. The decision was made quickly, but simple questions are being ignored. Perhaps you are restoring the logs of conversations between May 31 and June 1, as well as translations from Russian to English. By the way, it would also be interesting to see them. Stiky didn't give explanations for the two episodes to me, but to you, Neo. So, how did the judges/Stiky make a decision, based only on the information you provided to them, and accepting it as official? After all, you yourself say that
I am not part of the judging panel, but only as an active player, I express my opinion, including on the save files, which (opinion) does not obligate anyone to anything.
Or are you there as an additional member (freelance)? Neoandy
the timeline regarding Rebellious omits an important fact - it didn't start a week before the verdict, but even after the games with BK in the first round...
General phrases. As you noticed, foreigners contacted you earlier (by the way, who else besides Blackknight?), but you didn't pay attention to it. And you only looked at the save files after May 28. Perhaps it is incorrect, and I apologize to the players, but I will provide what I consider to be the key excerpt from the log.
05/28/2012 22:33:39, rebellious You were simply explained everything. If you think that everything should be complicated, and that everything should be according to your sophisticated way of thinking, then that is your problem. And no one will explain anything to you then. Because you only look at things from your own perspective. 05/28/2012 22:35:03, Neoandy well, you're not a grateful person 05/28/2012 22:35:14, Neoandy I wanted to support you, but you attacked me 05/28/2012 22:35:16, rebellious you offended me 05/28/2012 22:35:19, Neoandy now you have to make amends
In this tense situation, I have to give my support to Pete and Neo. In terms of the game, they deserved to be the winners, but I think it's now clear to all thinking players that there were no grounds to ban a player from Heroes of Might and Magic. So, in any case, there couldn't be a single winner of the tournament.
I deliberately waited a bit after Vic's most ridiculous post to see the community's reaction. To see if they would fall for such hype or not. Here's what I have to say:
1. What was the point of my question about the "mafia"? Back in the day, and I'm not sure if it's still the case, there was a commercial "mafia" involved in betting. For example, there used to be one in Conti. These people were valued in the "mafia circle" for their insightful understanding of the psychology of behavior in role-playing situations. The response was, "You're an idiot." Well, okay, what do I know... What am I getting at? I've tried repeatedly to find something worthwhile in the content related to the psychological aspects, but it's all been unsuccessful. All attempts to present psychological concepts are meaningless. In essence, they are just loud assertions, quite funny, by the way. So:
2.
What's the conclusion? A conspiracy against Rebel? The machinations of the evil Pete and the vile Sticky? Or is this a continuation of the "art preparation"? In your posts, I only see an escalation of emotions, but not much substance.
You can see that I have a different logical structure. I took the position of defending Rebellius and provided additional arguments for the unfounded accusations. Then, many players accepted the ideas I presented, which is what I wanted to achieve. I didn't prove any theorems, just made some "conclusions."
3.
Looking for some sympathy for Pete or antipathy towards Rebel here is absurd. I also note that the defenders of Rebel mainly emphasize the ethical side of the issue - "he's a great guy, why the hell are you banning him?!"
Yuri will be looking for "psychological prerequisites" on the next page of the topic. Maybe he doesn't even realize it yet!
4.
No one is saying that professional sports are discredited because of doping.
Actually, that's exactly what's happening. I can even provide links to opinions from experts.
5.
I've been playing Mafia a lot lately, and it's become a replacement for Heroes for me, and it's a great way to practice the skill of identifying suspicious people based on psychology. So, players who defend themselves the way Rebel is doing now are usually almost unanimously "voted out." Because that's the behavior of a "busted" mafia player.
An example of a good response from a "town resident" can be seen, for example, in the Markon vs. (I don't remember who) debate. This happened about two years ago; Pete might have something in his archives. Markon's first post convincingly demonstrated that there was nothing to the accusation. Personally, I didn't even bother looking at the replays because Markon looked so "innocent."
Here, there's an unintentional assertion that different people should behave similarly in similar situations. Secondly, that a player who has been unfairly accused of cheating MUST prove something or explain themselves to someone. I'm sure that if you take 20 strong players from different resources and accuse each of them of cheating, their reactions will differ greatly.
4. + a couple of jokes:
Russians have a prominent place in their mentality for the cult of the warrior, with all the concepts that flow from it.
Ha-ha.
5.
And for the Chinese, that place is occupied by the cult of the merchant.
Aha-ha-ha!!!
Conclusion: all attempts to conduct a discussion within the psychological field are doomed to fail with you, Wic. Or will turn into a joke. And sometimes, you try to be the Salieri of Heroes.
Thank you for your attention.
Javdet
