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Morning, I wanted to ask you the same question as Gaudin, but then I looked at your profile, and the answer became obvious. Of course, you know better: who is a loser and who isn't!

Well, of course. Paying four hundred rubles a month for the internet and having enough strength to earn bread and butter, but buying a desired item for a thousand once a decade is an impossible task in 2012. Better to go grab another bottle from the corner store.

Where does so much anger come from at such a young age?

Morning, I'm saying it for the last time: start earning your own money first – then you'll be able to decide what to buy!

buying something you want once a decade for a thousand is an impossible task

That's the point, it's not something I want! I don't want that game!
And you still haven't answered my question:

how is "Diablo 3" better than the two previous ones?

Where does so much anger come from at such a young age?

I don't know where you see the anger. If it comes from anyone, it's from Leader1.

That's the point, it's NOT what I wanted! I don't want this kind of game!

What "this kind"? Is it "for a thousand rubles and requires internet" or is it "they changed everything and it's all bad now"?

I don't know where you saw the malice. If it comes from anyone, it's from Leader1.

:smile40: :smile40:

Of course, it's from Leader1

All the malice comes from him :D

Here is the one to blame for children starving in Africa! Leader1 must be punished immediately, as he is the source of malice and hatred!

That's for sure.

Gaudin, answer honestly: who pays for the internet in your family? Whose money was used to buy the computer and (possibly) to buy game, movie, and music discs? If your parents pay for all of this, then there is nothing for me to talk to you about.

It was amusing, of course :)
I'll answer honestly. I pay for it myself, of course. And I also own a 3-room apartment, which I also bought myself, a wife who doesn't work, and two children, 14 and 2 years old. I also have a 15-year-old daughter from my first marriage, to whom I pay alimony. By the way, the alimony is more than my ex-wife's salary.
So, what does Diablo 3 have to do with it?

If I work and bought the computer myself, and I pay for the internet myself, then I don't care at all: what am I paying money for!

Come on... Money :) They already gave Russians a discount. They will get the Russian version 2.5 times cheaper than Europeans.
I'm really amused by the posts of those people who are shouting: "I paid money - give me the product, but I can barely imagine what it should be like. Something that will amaze me."
999 rubles – is that the price for a mega-masterpiece? I earn many times more in a day.
Isn't that funny to you? It's very funny to me :)
I always tell my son: don't download garbage from torrents. All sorts of repacks, crap...
If the game is worthy, according to the ratings of official gaming publications (which, as you say, are bought), I will gladly give him money for a license. Games like Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Crysis, BioShock – he has them all licensed, even though I don't even play them myself.

Using the ratings of critics and journalists, paid for by game developers, as an argument, as well as the ratings of teenage nerds, is completely unserious!

The vast majority of these "teenagers" who gave these ratings are under 30, and even over 30. I've been on that forum for over 3 years and I know many of them :)

Answer me briefly to one simple question: how is "Diablo 3" better than the two previous ones?
1. Graphics.
...?

I'll try to be brief, although I'm not sure why I need to.
Who on this forum is interested in Diablo 3? :)
1. Graphics – definitely. Yes :)
You know, I generally perceive D3 as D2 in a new wrapper. I'm playing it... and I have a constant feeling of déjà vu. Nostalgia is overwhelming me :)
The good old days have returned, when you tear your eyes away from the monitor and realize that 3 hours have already passed in a fierce battle.
However, Belial in Act 2 was disappointing. Why did they put such a giant on half the screen in the game.
2. New classes, new skills. The abilities are simply amazing.
Ariputra says that you can't distribute stats yourself :)
But in D2, you didn't need much intelligence to distribute them. A standard scheme, with rare exceptions: strength for gear, dexterity for block, the rest in vitality.
And there were also few active skills. No more than in D3. And here there are cooldowns that prevent you from spamming endlessly.
3. A shared stash for all characters in the account. Hallelujah, finally...
How annoying was the small stash in D2. How annoying was this fuss with mules for storing and transferring items. Many players had a lot of mules: a mule with runes, a mule with gems, a mule with one type of gear, another with a different type. It was a nightmare, in general.
4. Constant connection to the internet.
This is only a plus. You can play from any computer without having to worry about transferring saves. Even in our remote Siberia, there are no problems with this.
5. Achievement system. It's a small thing, but it's nice. Complete statistics in the profile: how much time the character has played, how many monsters the account owner has killed, how much gold has been collected, the highest level of the hardcore character.
So to speak, a "dick-measuring" tool in the profile.
The friend list is great. You always see who of your friends is online and can quickly join the game. And even if you are not in a party, you receive notifications about them getting achievements. And, as if, you are doing a common thing – destroying evil in the Sanctuary :)
6. Hardcore.
I never understood players who proudly stated that they play in hardcore mode, but they have a "chicken" button that automatically removes the character from the game when health drops below 30%.
I remember that in tournaments, we prohibited the escape button. No S&E and portals in the middle of a battle. Fight to the end, run away, or die, but don't exit the game unnaturally.
Here, there is a timer for exiting the game and for a portal. If you try to exit in the middle of a battle, you get a penalty.
7. I like the ability to try out all the character's possibilities, changing the layout of abilities and buffs on the fly. If one tactic doesn't work, try another.
8. There are no bosses for MF (magic find) farming. The days of Mephisto/Pindle runs are gone.
Now you need to farm the entire location, not just one boss.
The loot system is, of course, not great. But I hope it will be improved in the future.

In general, that's it in a nutshell..
In the end, I'll add that I already got so much pleasure from the game that the money flew away somewhere far away and was forgotten.
And this is just the beginning. Only Normal difficulty has been completed. Everything is ahead. Blizzard has already promised patches.
In my opinion, the auction house spoils the game, making the blacksmith and jeweler upgrades useless. But I don't use it and I forbade my son to use it. I want to complete the game with self-found/crafted gear.
And the level should be raised above 60.
But in general, I'm not disappointed.
To be honest, I was very angry at Blizzard for their delays in releasing the game. I cursed and vowed not to buy Diablo 3, but my soul couldn't stand it, I bought it, and all my anger disappeared on the first day of the game.
On the official Blizzard forums, in the Russian section, someone posted a very old whine about the release of D2. Something like, "What a crap, in a couple of months everyone will forget about it."
And people have been playing it for over 10 years and continue to play it.
Where did those 10 million people come from? Who, like crazy, grabbed D3 and under whose onslaught the Battle.net servers collapsed on the first day.
The lion's share of them are D2 players. And a small portion are WoW players who received D3 for a yearly subscription to WoW.

Okay, I've talked enough. I don't have time, I'm at work now :)
I just tried to express my opinion, I don't want to get into holiwars.
Sorry if I offended anyone with my words :)

I always tell my son: don't download garbage from torrents. All sorts of repacks, crap…

Hello there!

If the serial number was extracted from the game or a keygen was included, but the game itself remained exactly the same, does it automatically become "garbage"?

Just because some company won't get its "legitimate" money? So, a game in a repack becomes garbage because of that? Where's the logic?


People like you are my ideological opponents. I have never paid a single penny for any game, and I don't plan to! If you have the skills and a good internet connection, it's completely unnecessary!

Everything should be shared and for the people. I'm for communism on the internet. And let the bourgeois suckers pay for the games.

Especially if it's a single-player game, why pay for it at all? I understand if you're playing on official servers, but otherwise…

But I don't use them, and I forbade my son. It's interesting to play through the game with self-found/crafted gear.

But you are quite a strict tyrant and dictator :smile40: :smile52:

How annoying that small chest in D2 was. How irritating this hassle with mules was for storing and transferring items. Many players had tons of mules: a mule for runes, a mule for gems, a mule for one type of gear, another for a different type. It was a nightmare, in general.

What are these mules (characters-chests?) for storing? Are they only available on Battle.net servers, or are they also available in some versions of the single-player game? :)

If the serial number was extracted from the game or a keygen was used, but everything else remains the same, does it automatically become "garbage"?

As a rule, a ton of repacks are released, and only a few are made the way you describe. Many amateur enthusiasts try to add something of their own and claim that their repack is the best. And sometimes, this very enthusiast is not even 15 years old. They mess around and don't even understand what they're doing. I didn't immediately ban him, but after several of his unsuccessful experiments. Thank goodness, it didn't come to reinstalling the system, but a considerable amount of time was spent cleaning his computer of this junk.

Everything is shared and for the people. I'm for communism on the internet. And let the bourgeois pay for the games.

I'm kind of for communism too.
It's just that there are games that are special. Don't take it as pretentiousness, I just don't know how to explain it.
And I'll pay for them even just out of gratitude to the developers.
I also have a licensed copy of D2, as well as G2NV.

Are they only available on Battle.net servers, or in some version of the single-player game as well?

Of course, I'm talking about Battle.net.
They are not needed in single-player, because there is PlugY, which provides almost unlimited storage.
But isn't single-player interesting?
It's much more fun to play with a friendly group and compete.
And you can create a character using an editor in single-player, because there everyone is their own evil Pinocchio.
But here, game characters are stored on the server, and you can already judge the player's level.
However, I repeat, the auction REALLY spoils this picture.
Some, having barely reached a new level, rush to the auction to upgrade their gear, choosing the best for that level, and then complain that the game is too easy.
So, play it yourself, so to speak, in offline mode.
I completed the normal difficulty and was pleasantly surprised that the game is challenging, right on the edge. Not too easy, but not too difficult. Just right.
IMHO, of course.

Added

What are these "mules" (character-storage) for storing items?

Yes, these are level 1 characters created specifically for storing items

As a rule, they release a ton of repacks, and only a few are made the way you describe. Many amateur enthusiasts try to add their own touches and claim that their repack is the best. And sometimes, this very enthusiast is not even 15 years old. They mess around with things and don't even understand what they're doing. I didn't immediately ban him, but after several of his unsuccessful experiments. Thank goodness, it didn't come to reinstalling the system, but a considerable amount of time was spent cleaning his computer of this garbage.

As a rule, a normal repack includes a description of what has been done. Whether something has been removed from the game, whether the sound or video has been recoded into a different quality, etc. That is, there is a specific description.

And I highly doubt that the person who does all this is 15 years old. Because understanding disassembly and debuggers at that age seems unlikely. It's more likely that this individual will be playing Dota, CS, Mafia, and spamming in various chats and forums, etc. Although there may be a few exceptions. But I have serious doubts about that.

Regarding unsuccessful experiments and cleaning the computer of various garbage, there are many programs for this. For example, Total Commander has a program called Revo, which not only removes a game or program from the computer but also removes all entries from the system registry in 5 minutes.

I have NEVER paid a single penny for any game, and I don't plan to! If you have the skills and a good internet connection, it's completely unnecessary!
Everything should be public and accessible to everyone. I'm for communism on the internet. Let the rich bourgeois pay for the games.

Lider1, PPKS! It's clear right away: he's one of us! ;)

Ah, this puts everything in perspective. Who would have thought that people who consider themselves mature adults and earn their own living would fanatically align themselves with Petya from 7th grade, who downloads xXxDjabolo_3_666_RePaCk_BlackDEATH_13_RUSKAYA-VERSIYAxXx from Rutracker (nothing has been removed, guys).

Morning, what is the point of your messages?