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I gave up on it about a year ago and had to use a cheat. But now I beat it in one go, no problem. I wiped everyone out by the end of week 5. I built up my demons in Demoness (I didn't have enough resources for Nightmares and Hellhounds). On day 5, I took the Elven city. In the beginning of week 3, I defeated the Phoenixes (there weren't many of them, and before, they had time to level up their group – that's where I would have been in trouble). By the beginning of week 4, I had the northwestern Elven city with all the shiny, useful things – mines. I waited for my second hero to bring troops. Knowing that if I spent too long developing the Elves, the enemy would definitely have more troops, I only took demons and only allowed myself to recruit a couple of Druids and a few Archers in the northwestern city. I didn't get any more reinforcements because neutral creatures blocked the road. When I approached the city, Gilraen came out to meet me. I defeated him without any particular tricks, like a triple ballista or super diplomacy. There was a weak garrison left in the city – 22 peasants and 1-3 unicorns. And that's it. I didn't touch the Druids at all. I'm going to play the next mission now
Моя голова останется на месте, Вайер. В отличии от твоей, там, внутри, есть мозги.
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Hey everyone, can you help me out? I've captured all the towns, defeated the Druids, and defeated the hero. The sequence was: defeated the hero, defeated the Druids, captured the towns. But the map isn't completing – do I have to restart? I obviously crossed the border at the beginning.
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burymm
Hey guys, can you help me out? I've captured all the towns, defeated the Druids, and defeated the hero. The sequence was: defeated the hero, defeated the Druids, captured the towns. The map doesn't seem to be completing, do I have to restart? I obviously crossed the border at the beginning.
Have all the quests been completed?
— Как же я обожаю эти первые тёплые дожди!
— Не хочу тебя огорчать.. но, мне кажется, что им пофигу то, что они тебе так нравятся.
— А мне пофигу то, что им это пофигу. Я их люблю не для того, чтобы они знали, что я их люблю.(с)
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I don't have time to read all the pages, so I'll describe how I did it:
(1)
On "Hero" difficulty, take demons as a reward, hire a second demon hero, hire imps, and with the second hero, capture the imp lair on the right, and transfer the army to Agrael. With Agrael, attack the elf, proceed without stopping to the castle, and instead of capturing it, turn north, go through the mages near the crystal mine to the earth elementals.
It's better to use the Curse spell against them; it's good if you have Devil's Strike; summon all stacks through portals; you can split the army for more stacks, cast the spell, and throw meat at it. If you took a Phantom as a reward in the previous campaign, it will be useful here; with luck, you can defeat all the elemental stacks with 3 stacks of phantoms.
Next, go to the northwest castle; you should encounter the local hero; he doesn't have many troops; with skillful play, you can defeat him. Result: the northwest castle is captured on day 6.
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In parallel, with the second hero, you can gather demons at the bottom, collect money, build demons in the castle, and hire them, go to the castle to capture it. I advise you not to give simple demons to Agrael; an extra 5-9 won't hurt. Visit the experience stone; with a high probability, you will find the Curse spell, which will help you kill the garrison; but if you encounter a hero with a ballista, there will be no problems.
It's better to take the castle on the 1st day of the second week; then the result is: you have 3 castles (1 demon; 2 elves) against 1 castle (elf) of Gilraen; and the druids won't bother you for another 7 days.
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If you failed to save the army, it's better to use the week in reserve to eliminate the minor heroes (collectors - a distinctive feature is less than 10 units in the army), while hiring an elf hero in the upper castle and an army from there, give the army to Agrael, and send the elf to capture the mines. With Agrael, go back, killing heroes, and capture the gold mine near the lower castle (you can also take the 2nd one); the third mine is near the upper castle; rebuild the upper castle; in the next week, take the army and either attack the druids or try your luck with Gilraen. The rest is a matter of technique. Result: while you are running around, in two weeks, Gilraen will have a normal army, so the game will be a little longer, about 4-5 weeks; and if, God forbid, he goes around to the right and captures the lower one, it will take up to 6-7 weeks. It's better to act like this: on the 3rd or 4th week, go from the top to the observation tower to see when Gilraen will come out. No matter how many times I've tried, the computer starts developing the northwest castle first, so Gilraen sits in the castle for a couple of weeks until he has an army. Return to the northwest castle, wait, and Gilraen will move on the 3rd week after capturing the northwest castle (sometimes on the 4th) down and to the left to the northwest castle (you also need to scout everything in advance at the bottom). You need to immediately meet him and defeat him; otherwise, he will gather 500-1000 dryads and 200-400 blade dancers. Then, replenish the army and capture the 3rd castle.
(3b)
If you have saved at least some army (mainly in cases where Agrael is leveled up through the ballista), then immediately go to capture the third castle; Gilraen should not have a huge army yet, at most, something like 30 archers, 20 druids, 1 green dragon, etc.
And if you're doubly lucky, half the army will be in the castle, and Gilraen will be leveling up at the bottom right. Capture the castle and wait for the elf to come, saving you time.
Result: 3 elven castles are captured, the hero is killed, victory in 12-16 days.
(proverb)
I implemented option (3a), leveling up Agrael through Urgash's gate, starting the map at level 16, and finishing at level 19, completing it in 46 days.
I implemented option (3b), leveling up Agrael through the ballista; as a result, I didn't even hire elves and managed with the initial army in 16 days.
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I've never spent so much time on a mission before, so I decided to register and share my joy – I finally completed it yesterday. I'm playing the classic version 1.0, the original, which I bought two days after the release (don't laugh – I only had time to play it now). Basically, I had all the worst conditions: Very strong Gilraen. No diplomacy at all – the skill was never offered, even though I replayed it five times. The Druid hero only appears in the Tavern on the fourth/fifth week. I don't download patches on principle – nothing glitches, and I was hooked on whether I could complete the mission without patching! I'm playing on "Veteran" difficulty. So, I started like most people do – I took some Imps and immediately headed towards the eastern gate, defeated Gilraen, and went towards the lower Elven Castle. But not to it, but to the north of it, to the northern Elven Castle, through the Elementals. I defeated them using the Phantom spell, without any losses. The upper-left castle was well-developed by the time I captured it and was guarded by a pitiful group of troops. Apparently, Gilraen was on a campaign with his main army at that time. I captured the castle, bought some troops, and went north to the eastern castle, capturing mines along the way. When I approached the eastern castle, I had to guess the right moment so that Gilraen wasn't there and it was the end of the week. I captured the castle, which, by the way, was already built to the maximum, bought an army, conquered the mines, and quickly left from there because Gilraen soon returned with an army that was incomparably stronger than mine (for now :rolleyes:). Now I can go to the southern castle. The Green one diligently produced new heroes, but they didn't pose any danger because they had practically no troops. I capture the southern castle. Gilraen, meanwhile, moves to the western one. And I capture the eastern one again. You can use (if you have it) the "Summon Creatures" magic, which helps to lure troops away from Gilraen when he captures a castle. It just says that the mana cost is 0, but 1 mana is spent on each creature. Thus, I periodically-constantly have 3 castles, against 1 castle for Gilraen, who eventually stops roaming the map and digs in in his only castle. Having gathered an army of 20 Dragons, 120 Ancient Ents, 200 Archers, 300 Dryads, and 40 High Druids, I easily captured the last castle and destroyed Gilraen (in reality, the video shows that I spared him), losing almost all the Dragons in the process. Then I moved towards the Druids, calling in reinforcements from the castles along the way. I defeated the Druids without any losses. That's it.
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How, HOW do you manage to defeat the elementals "without losses"? I have Phantom, and I reach them quite successfully, but then... everything gets destroyed, I just don't have enough damage. Please, describe step by step which elementals you're fighting, your army, the path to them, and the battle with them, if it's not too much trouble. Please =)

This mission is driving me crazy; I completed it on Veteran difficulty a long time ago, and now I can't seem to do it.
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Have you tried studying more useful skills in the first mission to apply them in the second? Also, you can quickly (as much as possible) capture the mines (which are nearby) and head east from the lower Elven city, kill the Rakshasa, enter the Keymaster's tent, and open the outpost near the Inferno castle. Then you can proceed as suggested by HRodo.XDDDDDD
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How, HOW do you manage to defeat elementals "without losses"?
You can defeat them with dogs; just run away from them, and let Agrael shoot. :smile13:

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By the way, try playing with diplomacy on this map; you'll like it. Recruiting units of 600 fairies and 300 archers every day is quite good.
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I have this situation. (If needed, I can attach a bunch of screenshots.)
As a result of my patience, I've reached 9 months into the game (and I'm not going to replay, which is why I'm writing this message). Thanks to your helpful advice and instructions (which I unfortunately read a bit too late), I now have:
Both upper Elven cities, all mines (except for 1 ore mine and 1 gold mine), and all dwellings except for the elemental ones.
Gilraen is defeated, and I have the source of Druidic power.
Agrael is level 24 with a decent demon army.
Ilfina is level 24 with diplomacy and an even larger Elven army.
The problem:
I didn't get the "Pursuit" skill, and I don't see if the units are ready to join me. I've loaded the game and attacked different units about ten times, but they don't join. Although, it's obvious that with 4k units in each of their squads and only 500+ dryads on my side, the chances aren't very high.
The enemy hero, Talannar, has settled in the lower city and hasn't left it for a month or more. He's not hiring any other heroes either. I've already tried everything to lure him out, but he doesn't leave the city, doesn't retake mines, and doesn't attack heroes even if they're right next to the city.
Question:
What are my chances of gathering a large enough army to defeat his huge forces (with 7k dryads and 4k dancers each)? How can I increase the chance of neutral elves joining Ilfina? Or how can I lure Talannar out of the city to capture him and complete the mission?

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I'll add that Agrael has a priceless scroll with the Berserk spell, which has saved me many times, and I'm basically relying on it
Хороший паладин-мёртвый паладин:smile34: :smile14: :smile16:
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I completed this mission a long time ago, but I think 9 months is too long. I didn't rush, and I still finished the mission.
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What exactly is the problem? Even without neutrals, you can manage with two castles, and to increase the chance of joining, keep unupgraded archers in your army as well; there are many of them on the map, and they pose very little danger to your troops.

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I completed this mission a long time ago, but I think 9 months is too long. I didn't waste any time and completed the mission.
Yes, you immediately take diplomacy, wait for the first unit to join, and then it's off to the races – 120 archers, 500 fairies, and 250 dancers per day.
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GAZA SECTOR, what is the purpose of the demon army? The mission is designed to utilize the enemy's troops, meaning the elves, which can be hired in greater numbers from level 1 to 7. Gather reinforcements from two cities, and sooner or later, your army will become larger than Ilfina's. If you have logistics and she doesn't, you can try to lure her out of the city and capture her without a fight.

Did you kill the druids? If so, the elven troops will stop appearing, and no one will join Ilfina.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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version 1.0, I have it

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I explained everything in detail. The Druids are dead, and the remaining units on the map have approximately 4,000 creatures each. Ilfina is my hero; I chose her as a Ranger to lead the Elven army. By chance, I got Diplomacy and started maxing it out, but no one joins me.
It will take another month to wait for the army to gather enough strength to fight Talanar. And the demon army is needed so that if I lose Ilfina in this battle, I can immediately bring in Agrail and finish it.
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Wait a bit longer, since you don't want to start over. Sooner or later, your income from two cities will exceed the enemy's army. Or, you can try attacking Ilfina and then Agrail, as you planned. You might have enough troops.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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I've been trying it all evening yesterday and this morning. Ilfina is strengthening her troops with light magic, and I gave her the Berserker scroll. With the Berserker, a large part of the army is destroyed, but the strongest creatures still remain, and they are too tough for Agrila. Besides, in different attempts, I noticed that sometimes they stood near the wall for about 10 turns, and I could calmly destroy them with the Berserker, while in other attempts, they brought everyone out from behind the wall on the first or second turn. I don't understand this dependence, or maybe it's just a coincidence.
Well, I also think that it's better to gain a huge advantage (just skip a few days, and that's it:cool:).
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