Posts from Worshipper – “Conquest” [Campaign 2, Mission 3]
Hey guys, can you help me out? I've captured all the towns, defeated the Druids, and defeated the hero. The sequence was: defeated the hero, defeated the Druids, captured the towns. The map doesn't seem to be completing, do I have to restart? I obviously crossed the border at the beginning.
— Не хочу тебя огорчать.. но, мне кажется, что им пофигу то, что они тебе так нравятся.
— А мне пофигу то, что им это пофигу. Я их люблю не для того, чтобы они знали, что я их люблю.(с)
(1)
On "Hero" difficulty, take demons as a reward, hire a second demon hero, hire imps, and with the second hero, capture the imp lair on the right, and transfer the army to Agrael. With Agrael, attack the elf, proceed without stopping to the castle, and instead of capturing it, turn north, go through the mages near the crystal mine to the earth elementals.
It's better to use the Curse spell against them; it's good if you have Devil's Strike; summon all stacks through portals; you can split the army for more stacks, cast the spell, and throw meat at it. If you took a Phantom as a reward in the previous campaign, it will be useful here; with luck, you can defeat all the elemental stacks with 3 stacks of phantoms.
Next, go to the northwest castle; you should encounter the local hero; he doesn't have many troops; with skillful play, you can defeat him. Result: the northwest castle is captured on day 6.
(2)
In parallel, with the second hero, you can gather demons at the bottom, collect money, build demons in the castle, and hire them, go to the castle to capture it. I advise you not to give simple demons to Agrael; an extra 5-9 won't hurt. Visit the experience stone; with a high probability, you will find the Curse spell, which will help you kill the garrison; but if you encounter a hero with a ballista, there will be no problems.
It's better to take the castle on the 1st day of the second week; then the result is: you have 3 castles (1 demon; 2 elves) against 1 castle (elf) of Gilraen; and the druids won't bother you for another 7 days.
(3a)
If you failed to save the army, it's better to use the week in reserve to eliminate the minor heroes (collectors - a distinctive feature is less than 10 units in the army), while hiring an elf hero in the upper castle and an army from there, give the army to Agrael, and send the elf to capture the mines. With Agrael, go back, killing heroes, and capture the gold mine near the lower castle (you can also take the 2nd one); the third mine is near the upper castle; rebuild the upper castle; in the next week, take the army and either attack the druids or try your luck with Gilraen. The rest is a matter of technique. Result: while you are running around, in two weeks, Gilraen will have a normal army, so the game will be a little longer, about 4-5 weeks; and if, God forbid, he goes around to the right and captures the lower one, it will take up to 6-7 weeks. It's better to act like this: on the 3rd or 4th week, go from the top to the observation tower to see when Gilraen will come out. No matter how many times I've tried, the computer starts developing the northwest castle first, so Gilraen sits in the castle for a couple of weeks until he has an army. Return to the northwest castle, wait, and Gilraen will move on the 3rd week after capturing the northwest castle (sometimes on the 4th) down and to the left to the northwest castle (you also need to scout everything in advance at the bottom). You need to immediately meet him and defeat him; otherwise, he will gather 500-1000 dryads and 200-400 blade dancers. Then, replenish the army and capture the 3rd castle.
(3b)
If you have saved at least some army (mainly in cases where Agrael is leveled up through the ballista), then immediately go to capture the third castle; Gilraen should not have a huge army yet, at most, something like 30 archers, 20 druids, 1 green dragon, etc.
And if you're doubly lucky, half the army will be in the castle, and Gilraen will be leveling up at the bottom right. Capture the castle and wait for the elf to come, saving you time.
Result: 3 elven castles are captured, the hero is killed, victory in 12-16 days.
(proverb)
I implemented option (3a), leveling up Agrael through Urgash's gate, starting the map at level 16, and finishing at level 19, completing it in 46 days.
I implemented option (3b), leveling up Agrael through the ballista; as a result, I didn't even hire elves and managed with the initial army in 16 days.
This mission is driving me crazy; I completed it on Veteran difficulty a long time ago, and now I can't seem to do it.
How, HOW do you manage to defeat elementals "without losses"?
Added after 17 hours and 20 minutes
By the way, try playing with diplomacy on this map; you'll like it. Recruiting units of 600 fairies and 300 archers every day is quite good.
As a result of my patience, I've reached 9 months into the game (and I'm not going to replay, which is why I'm writing this message). Thanks to your helpful advice and instructions (which I unfortunately read a bit too late), I now have:
Both upper Elven cities, all mines (except for 1 ore mine and 1 gold mine), and all dwellings except for the elemental ones.
Gilraen is defeated, and I have the source of Druidic power.
Agrael is level 24 with a decent demon army.
Ilfina is level 24 with diplomacy and an even larger Elven army.
The problem:
I didn't get the "Pursuit" skill, and I don't see if the units are ready to join me. I've loaded the game and attacked different units about ten times, but they don't join. Although, it's obvious that with 4k units in each of their squads and only 500+ dryads on my side, the chances aren't very high.
The enemy hero, Talannar, has settled in the lower city and hasn't left it for a month or more. He's not hiring any other heroes either. I've already tried everything to lure him out, but he doesn't leave the city, doesn't retake mines, and doesn't attack heroes even if they're right next to the city.
Question:
What are my chances of gathering a large enough army to defeat his huge forces (with 7k dryads and 4k dancers each)? How can I increase the chance of neutral elves joining Ilfina? Or how can I lure Talannar out of the city to capture him and complete the mission?
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I'll add that Agrael has a priceless scroll with the Berserk spell, which has saved me many times, and I'm basically relying on it
Added 2 minutes later
I completed this mission a long time ago, but I think 9 months is too long. I didn't waste any time and completed the mission.
Did you kill the druids? If so, the elven troops will stop appearing, and no one will join Ilfina.
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"
Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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I explained everything in detail. The Druids are dead, and the remaining units on the map have approximately 4,000 creatures each. Ilfina is my hero; I chose her as a Ranger to lead the Elven army. By chance, I got Diplomacy and started maxing it out, but no one joins me.
It will take another month to wait for the army to gather enough strength to fight Talanar. And the demon army is needed so that if I lose Ilfina in this battle, I can immediately bring in Agrail and finish it.
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"
Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
Well, I also think that it's better to gain a huge advantage (just skip a few days, and that's it:cool:).
