Posts from Mafia 44. Time of Troubles Auto-translated

Thanks, Winner. Yes, maybe I play more impulsively than many of you, but if I achieve my goal, I'll do it by any means.

Lynx, I'll explain it one more time: I know I'm a Cossack, I know Vis's previous moves, I know that only Hermit could have failed with the Night Duel, I know that on the last night, Heaven was blocked, and there was no healing, and his post "blacksmith lol" has a huge plus here.
It's easier now. There are only 2 negative roles left for Rudy, because the drunkard, the witch, and the Cossack visited him, and out of 5 people, he is clearly a negative, HOW CAN I PROVE THIS TO YOU IF I CAN'T REVEAL MY ROLE? Although I was basically saying the same thing.
As for you, the clue was accurately deciphered, and you basically come out as an angel. There was a small chance that Heaven was still an angel, so if you were a witch, you would have healed yourself, and they would have hanged Heaven.
And if you can't understand my phrases (and why should you understand if you already know you're a negative, who am I proving anything to?), then it's not that I'm stupid, but you still need to learn to read between the lines.
I didn't really want to suspect Heaven a day or two before that, and on the last day, my task was to convince Hermit that everything was decided and that the city had victory in its hands, the main thing was to act correctly in round 3.
And I DON'T NEED TO SHOUT, you probably don't need to tell me that. When I was talking to Lynx for one day, who realized that she would be next after Rudy, she started saying such nonsense that my brain couldn't calmly process it. But THEN RUDY CAME, and added fuel to the fire. No, only Rudy could LIE SO MUCH and PROVE TO A COSSACK that he is not a Cossack, there is no doubt about it.

And I always behave so boldly when I am sure of my rightness, because where there is truth, there is victory.

I will still say a separate thank you to Archie, Nebka for their active and obvious game for the city in the last days. Winner and Rudy also pleased me with their analyses, and I didn't suspect Rudy until the last day. But I was offended by his strategy against me, so that's all.

Lynx, did the city not deserve the victory? Well, that's your opinion. I think that many made successful moves at night, and even I did, so I am happy with the victory and that I survived.

Ment, thank you for the game. I wrote to you on the replacement that I liked the setting. And congratulations on the game, if I spoiled it a little for you, I'm sorry. I'm just impulsive

And you almost managed to eliminate Rudya on the second night :). Did you have any suspicions?

Regarding the witch visiting Rudya: I considered him a witch on the sixth day because she can heal herself :D. No, Rudya didn't give himself away in any way, as far as I could tell.

About the game. I'll start with an analysis.
Night 1.
I killed Amko. Reasons:
A) I decided to play according to the principle of eliminating inactive players. Exceptions: Arandor, Winner. But I'll talk about these two in more detail.
B) Subjectivism. The player was offended by me for revealing information. And, of course, it's unlikely that we could have found common ground during the game. I decided to strike preemptively. And I didn't regret it! That guy was hunting the monk. Awesome.
Possible mistake of the first night:
I drew the attention of the Cossack, in case his actions later were based on this murder. I generally expected that if anyone noticed, they would write about it on the forum, and then I could even deflect the blame onto those who "play well and therefore decided to frame the useless Redhead." Although I didn't think much about it, people mostly pay attention to their own sympathies/antipathies rather than others' (and that's right), and Hostor also said that personal feelings shouldn't influence the game. I think that's nonsense! How can you play without feelings? And for what? To see a note that says "werewolf wins"? Definitely not worth it.
Day 1.
There was a lot of nonsense, which was great. I especially liked Ar's argument that "lynxes roar." In general, I got to know people, said what I basically think. I decided how stupid the town wants to see me. Well, that's the introduction.
Night 2.
Well, there's the Cossack! Actually, I've said many times that Vistrit is a Cossack, hoping that someone would eliminate him. Hostor was right, if you decide to do something, do it yourself. I just didn't expect that they would replace him. And Vistrit himself wasn't dangerous. In general, a coincidence saved the Cossack's role. And, as a result, the town. And thanks to Zubr. If it weren't for the blockers, his presence would have been useful.
In general, the night was characterized by a huge influence of randomness. Well, there's not much else to say.
About my murder.
A) I was eliminating an inactive player. Then I regretted the murder; after all, Gumer, despite writing little, understands the game well.
B) The avatar was kind of strange. Well, didn't you like it?
Day 2.
The nonsense continues. Arandor trolls Lynx, Zubr is just having fun, Tox pretends not to understand anything.
Occasionally, there are sensible thoughts based on the blocks. I don't remember if I commented on this, but I would have been quite happy if everyone was absorbed in the blocked players.
I didn't like Morning's note, urging to think about "who benefited from killing Amko." But I decided that killing her would be a departure from the initial counter-passive strategy. And there were no further attacks + I wasn't sure that it was about me.
Night 3.
Vistrit is an illogical entity! Why?! He had a huge list of suspects based on the blocks! And he attacked me again. Okay, well, thanks at least that Heaven healed. I figured out his role the next day. But I decided not to kill him because he could remain a "werewolf" until the town was forced to execute him. I thought they would execute him, and then I would be so smart. I was wrong. I should have eliminated him during the vote.
Zubr is great, he protected the Fox. And rightly so, there's no need to protect you passive players! By the way, even though he helped us at night, during the day the main analysis of the situation belonged to him and Ar. So don't criticize the guy, seriously. This is basically for Hostor.
Now it becomes clear why Ar leaked Lizard.
I don't understand why the Inquisitor was so clueless! So many revealed roles that could be used in his own interests, and he recruits Lizard. In general, he didn't get it.
Well, the murder committed by Lynx looks logical, to eliminate another mafia member. That's why I think the town won (the mafia members killed each other, yeah, such a predictable position). But this was in the night that the GM called "Revenge." By the way, the name of this (third) night! It revealed me terribly, it's strange that no one noticed *shrugs*. The coolest free clue in the whole game.
Okay, now the most interesting part begins, so I'll post this now. To be continued.

But that was during the night that the GM called "Retribution." By the way, what a name for that night! It really bothered me, it's strange that no one noticed *shrugs*. The coolest free clue in the entire game.

I didn't understand:smile43:

I didn't understand :smile43:

I meant the third night. "Irony of Fate." I've already corrected it in the post.

And Hos just said that personal feelings shouldn't affect the game. I think that's nonsense! How can you play without feelings? And for what? To see a note that says "werewolf wins"? Definitely not worth it.

It's not nonsense. You need to eliminate opponents not based on personal dislike, but for profit, to gain an advantage in the game. The same applies to any action. Logic, benefit, cold calculation. If the game isn't about winning, but about being friends, then it's not a game. It's just foolishness. The same goes for reasoning and analysis. If you don't want to deceive a friend, if you don't want to kill, you'll lose. This is a game. You need to be able to control your emotions in order to play.

Zubr did a good job protecting Lisichka. And he was right not to protect you, you passive players!

By the way, regarding protection, I visited the active players, regardless of their possible roles. Although, instead of Lynx, it should have been Ar, but because of his voice, which, regardless of the Lizard's role, was simply against NNV, I went to the lynx.

If the game isn't about winning, but about having fun with friends, then it's not a game.

Are we playing for money? I don't think so. We're playing for ourselves, and the process is more important than the result. And playing solely for the result doesn't lead to anything good. You don't even have to look far for an example of this – Jack showed it clearly on the last day.

Don't make things worse, Zubr.

I especially liked Ara's argument about "lynxes growling."

That wasn't my argument; I simply replaced the wolves (which someone had mentioned) with lynxes and tried to briefly explain to her the reason why some players had started to suspect her.

It's not nonsense. You shouldn't kill based on personal dislikes, but for profit, so there's a benefit in the game. This applies to any action. Logic, benefit, cold calculation. If the game isn't about winning, but about having fun with friends, then it's not a game. It's just foolishness. The same applies to reasoning and analysis. If you don't want to deceive a friend, if you don't want to kill, you'll lose. This is a game. You need to be able to control your emotions in order to play.

MUST. A terrible word. Benefit! Okay, let's leave it alone. Benefit is good, within reasonable limits. Logic. Well, you weren't very good at it. Yes, neither was I, but I'm still a man. And in general, my goal wasn't to execute you, but to stop the execution of Nebo. We've already discussed this. But at least I got you moving a bit, otherwise you'd be lounging around like a sloth on a branch, dozing off! Cold calculation. Boring. And it doesn't sound very good. Not my style.
A game that isn't about winning is good. A game for "friends" is bad, I agree. But I believe that the players create the game. And if you do as you suggest, it will essentially be a game with passive players. So what will they create? You don't have to answer.
In general, here's what else besides winning:
a) a game aimed at creating conditions for real competition
b) a game aimed at role-playing. But you have to put a lot of effort into it.
I have nothing against lying. I don't see the point in suppressing emotions. I played very emotionally, and people praised me. No, I'm seriously surprised by this. Thank you. It's even a little pleasant. Although I made just as many mistakes as everyone else. Yes, it sounds vague, but I'll elaborate in detail later. Tomorrow. At least I'll try.

And yes, as you said, it's a game! So why the hell am I pretending to be a smart guy here (some kind of cold, restrained person who objectively assesses the situation), especially if I'm not one!

I agree with Hossi that likes and dislikes shouldn't affect the game. At most, it's the first night when everything is random, and essentially, it doesn't matter who you go with. If everything is going well, then the executioner and the executed can calmly and amicably chat, and no one will be harmed by it. We have a game, not a private gathering. Maybe we should even choose teams based on who we like?
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L___ said nublo.

I agree with Hossi that sympathies and antipathies shouldn't affect the game. At most, it's the first night when everything is random, and essentially, it doesn't matter who you go with. If everything is going well, then the executioner and the executed can calmly and amicably chat, and no one will be harmed by it. We have a game, not a private gathering. Maybe we should even choose teams based on sympathies?
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L___ said nublo.

I wasn't contrasting my person with Hostor regarding this issue.

I was just expressing my opinion. I've felt this way for a long time, and now it just came up in conversation. I'm not trying to put myself against you, just so you know. And I'm not trying to put myself against anyone.

That wasn't my argument; I just replaced the wolves (which someone mentioned) with lynxes and tried to briefly explain to her the reason why some players started suspecting her.

And I didn't say that you were seriously trying to convince her of that. It just sounds cool.

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I was just expressing my opinion. I've thought so for a long time, and now I just brought it up. I'm not opposing you, if that's what you think. And I'm not opposing anyone.

Okay. Noted. I've taken it into account. I've swallowed it.:D

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Yes, maybe I play more impulsively than many of you, but if I achieve my goal, I'll do it by any means.

I'll be afraid of you now. Any means is bad.

But THEN RUDY CAME

*suspenseful music*

and added fuel to the fire.

That's so incredibly beautiful! The fire, damn it, comes alive!

Only Rudy can lie like that and prove to a Cossack that he's not a Cossack, there's no doubt about it.

Well, I wasn't proving it to you, but to Hermit! Everything was obvious with you.

Congratulations, Jack. Just don't get so worked up, for God's sake. It's not worth it. And it's bad for me. It develops sadistic tendencies. I don't want to be a troll.