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#768
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I was actually trying to figure it out. What can I do if I considered you a member of the mafia!
Maybe it's partially my fault :)
 

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#769
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In reality, the city deserved the victory the most, so calm down and don't argue.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#770
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Zubr, I think it's reasonable to eliminate someone on the first night without relying on information about their role or the current state of the game. Simply because these factors are not yet clear at that time. =)
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#771
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Zubr, I think it's reasonable to eliminate players on the first night without relying on role information or the current state of the game.
Eliminate players who are clearly inactive; what's the problem? Would you enjoy dying every time on the first or second night just because others consider you a good player?
That's selfish; we're not playing to benefit just one person.


Барон
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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#772
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I'm not really considered a good player. =)
And it has happened many times that the Mafia killed inactive players and just newbies, and then lost to skilled players in crucial days.
As a contrasting example, remember your last Mafia game, Zubr. You killed the best players, and then Hostor easily controlled the city. Only Zedzi tried to oppose it.
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#773
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And it has happened many times that the Mafia killed inactive players and newbies, but then lost to more skilled players in crucial moments.
As a contrasting example, remember your last Mafia game, Zubr. You killed the best players, and then Hostor easily controlled the town. Only Zedzi tried to resist.
I'm just saying, we're not playing for keeps. If you lose, you lose, that's it. You'll do better next time.
However, if winning is all that matters to you, and not the game itself, then yes.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#774
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Zubr, some people don't play for fun; they play to win. And that's all that matters. That's why they eliminate strong players early on. They don't care that they'll mostly be playing against relatively passive players who aren't used to spending two hours analyzing clues and who rarely engage with the game. They don't care that there will be fewer posts in the thread, which means overall interest in the game will decrease. The main thing is to win, right?
Okay. I just don't understand the point of killing assets on the first night. In my opinion, it's an admission of their inability to counter them.
Perhaps it's best if I don't say anything about the mod kills. I feel bad for Tox anyway...
Kosha, welcome. And I'm sorry that things turned out this way.
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#775
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ToX
I'm not really considered a good player. =)
And it has happened many times that the Mafia killed inactive players and just noobs, and then lost to skilled players in crucial days.
And as a contrasting example, remember your last Mafia game, Zubr. You killed the best players, and then Hostor could easily manipulate the town. Only Zedzi tried to do something.
I also disagree with eliminating strong players almost immediately; after that, there's nothing interesting left, and there's absolutely NOTHING valuable in winning at any cost. I don't understand, would you really be happy with that victory? When you were begging everyone not to execute you and give you a chance. Seriously?

And by the way, skilled players often manipulated you too.
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#776
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And by the way, they often manipulated your skills too.
I don't remember. I do remember a case where Tox said, "Hostor is very smart, I will listen to Hostor," and they were both Mafia, and Tox was just looking for a reason to agree with his teammate.
 

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#777
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Kits
I feel so sorry for Tox..

Don't pity me. I'm happy with everything.
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I don't understand, would you really be happy with that victory? When you were begging everyone not to execute you and give you a chance. Seriously?

Once again, I wasn't really lying back then. I really didn't expect to win. We understood that even if everything worked out, we would most likely be executed or killed before the game ended.
I just really wanted to personally engage in a DUEL with Zubr.
And then - depending on the situation. I would still be executed the next day, if not killed during the night.
Rys'
And by the way, you were often manipulated by the skilled players.

Interesting statement.
I'll reread the Mafia discussions and tell you if I agree with it or not.
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#778
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Ment
I don't remember. I do remember a time when ToX said, "Hostor is very smart, I will listen to Hostor," and they were both Mafia, and ToX was just looking for a reason to agree with his teammate.
Seriously?... but what about this...
HOSTOR FAN CLUB

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Well, again, I wasn't really lying back then. I really didn't expect to win. We understood that even if everything worked out, we would definitely be executed or killed before the game ended.
I just really wanted to personally engage in a DUEL with Zubr.
Well, and then - depending on the situation. Either way, I would be executed the next day, if not killed during the night.
I liked that Nebo didn't even hint that you were just setting him up.
Why did you need a duel with Zubr?
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#779
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No, Lynx, there wasn't any manipulation.
In game 34, I was a Mafia member and was just learning the art of the game. So, there couldn't have been any manipulation simply because I wouldn't have listened to anyone.
In game 37, there wasn't much of a game, to be honest.
In the Alternative game, I was executed on the first day, and I didn't even have time to do anything.
In game 38, skilled players were playing against me, and it was an open confrontation, not manipulation.
In game 39, skilled players were playing with me. :D And those who were against it didn't have much influence. Well, except for Rimpy, who epically screwed everyone over. But, I emphasize, everyone.
In game 40, it was ADEPTUM MECHANICUM.
In game 41, Morny swayed me from my true thoughts, yes. But otherwise, I made all the decisions myself.
In game 42, the skilled players died quickly. =(
In game 43... You all saw it. :D

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The fan club was active when we were both Mafia members, and I deliberately acted that way. It was all approved in the general Mafia chat.
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ToX
No, Lynx, there wasn't any manipulation going on.
In game 34, I was a member of the Mafia and was just learning the ropes. So, there couldn't have been any manipulation simply because I wouldn't have listened to anyone.
In game 37, the game wasn't very good, to be honest.
In the Alternative game, I was executed on the first day, and I didn't even have time to do anything.
In game 38, skilled players were playing against me, and it was an open confrontation, not manipulation.
In game 39, skilled players were playing with me. :D And those who were against us didn't have much influence. Well, except for Rimpy, who royally screwed everyone over. But, I emphasize, everyone.
In game 40, it was ADEPTUM MECHANICUM.
In game 41, Morny swayed me from my correct thoughts, yes. But otherwise, I made all the decisions myself.
In game 42, the skilled players died quickly. =(
In game 43... You all saw it. :D

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Well, okay, I just remember that skilled players always manipulated everyone, and it was incredibly annoying. Back then, it seemed to me that they were clouding everyone's judgment, without exception.
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#781
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I somehow missed those games where you could manipulate skill levels. =)
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ToX
I somehow missed those games where you could manipulate skill levels. =)
What? There were a lot of them.