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AlexAG-crzq are playing
Zzzloi-iSeeDeadPpl will finish their game tomorrow, on Monday
Tomash-7z, Tomash is disqualified due to technical loss for lack of connection.
I will provide the final results of the round on Tuesday morning.
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18.03.2012 crzq (Blue, Necro, Clavius, Clavius) def AlexAG (Red, Conflux, rnd, Luna) Mini-Nostalgia 215.

Overall, I think my opponent shouldn't have given away Necro on such a non-close template, especially with 3 close computers. I took a long time moving and restarting - I wanted to play as best as possible, and I also made a lot of blunders. We picked computers like this (I was first) - Castle - Rampart - Citadel - Inferno - Dungeon - Tower. I was afraid of picking computers with a penalty, I took the Citadel reluctantly, because I usually have poor tempo anyway, and this would have completely sunk me.

111 - Dungeon, but zombies are built; I burned 3 of their external dwellings. Isra came, on the last seconds I fought well, barely lost any skeletons - 92 so far, no unpleasant blocks. Clavius advanced Necromancy, Isra got Armorer, so I decided to play.
112 - 6 heroes (3 with cash), collected a lot of gold, built 1000 in the castle. I revealed and broke into a skeleton external dwelling, spotted a strategic tavern 2 days away from the castle. Skeletons at 104 now.
113 - 8 heroes. Isra broke a bunch of stuff, burned a Pandora's Box + skull +2 + a bunch of resources for 50-99 Griffins. On the other side, I delivered 4 Vampires and was breaking through to the Dwarf Cottage via Hogs. Skeletons - 133.
114 - Isra took the minimal Dwarf Cottage, burned a few more zombie external dwellings and a couple of skeleton external dwellings (11-12 and 4-5 of them were scattered around the respawn). Gave Clavius a Haste scroll, bought +1 Attack for 1k, and prepared to fight 160 Griffins with 160 bones, 8 zombies, and 4 Vampires the next day, after delivering some more.
115 - Captured a Pandora's Box - 30 Ghost Dragons. Broke one guard to the Citadel computer. Tempo seems great, lots of meat, tons of gold, but I was already getting horrified by the size of the corridors to the computers - needed about 5 days to run to the Castle computer via fast roads. And the corridor, both in the underground and above ground, just stretched on endlessly, I couldn't believe it (
116 - Captured a square of the Citadel computer (thanks to the water reserve +800 and flag +400). Clavius set up there with 29 Ghost Dragons and 4 Vampires, started pulling a chain of skeletons back - to the Castle computer. I think all 8 heroes were involved in the chain, I barely managed to pull it from the very bottom to the very top of the underground. Bones 200+, plus 2 horses. I got very close to the surface exit. The entrance to the treasure zone is 1.5-2 days' travel from the Citadel, again in the very corner of the map (
117 - Turis broke through the guard to the Castle computer and I'm running, running everything, but I can't even see the computer - resources are lying around, and the corridor stretches on, mountains left and right. The computer suicided on Clavius, I started looking for a split for him - found a stable, could split on 121, not far from the underground entrance - to return the army. In the Citadel, bears in the Fort; in Necro, 1-6 in the Fort.
121 - Somehow, on the last MP, I got Turis to the Castle computer, where I was received very well - 10 archers with 40 damage each = -100 skeletons, roughly -1 horse. But there was no other choice, and I couldn't have arrived earlier. I decided to split Clavius in the Castle, luckily a stable + many small guards were burned.
122 - Clavius split, I started rebuilding the skeleton stack. Burned the Griffin Conservatory and a locked enemy hero. External market next to the castle.
123 - Troglodyte Griffin Conservatory, scary to go in with 190 bones, not much MP left though - 700, decided to wait for 2 bears, 6 birds, and about 100 more bones.
124 - Barely pulled off the Griffin Conservatory - level 3. It fell without a problem. Finally maxed Necromancy (got Air - Tactics, couldn't refuse). Almost 400 bones. Went into the treasure zone, fortunately it wasn't far. Preparing to break Dragon Utopias with the Orb of Silt. (Earth magic advanced available).
125 - Captured the castle in the treasure zone, captured the Cloak of +10% Necromancy with a tavern hero in the corner of the treasure zone. Didn't have enough timer and experience to build the Mage Guild ( The treasure zone is kind of empty - some unclear turnoff away from the castle. I decide to just send a scout hero there.
126 - Captured a Pandora's Box for Necro horses, Clavius maxed Armorer and Earth. Unfolded for the Shield +5 and for 2 Pandora's Boxes for 5-9 Black Dragons.
127 - Fought well, but due to a terrible timer waste, couldn't build Angels in the Castle, though they would have easily fit ( Freed Tamika level 10 from a prison, who then cleaned up the treasure zone.

Then, due to terrible corridors and lack of control, I lose tempo very badly - no convenient treasure zones, Dragon Utopia not visible at all. On 133, built Archangels and upgraded all 4 Angels. Then I spent a very long time pulling all the meat to the Citadel treasure zone, killing the Dungeon computer with Necro meat along the way. In 2+3 Dragon Utopias, gave a sword +12-3, Crown level 5, Red Ball. Only lost the Orb of Silt - Skeletons weren't even pecked. With control, I decided to reach the opponent as quickly as possible (there birds only revealed on 132, Angels on 133). On the way, decided to detour for the Bracers and to the opponent - in the Pandora's Box gave all Mage Guild level 4. On and up to 211, hopped between castles - gathered 1.5k bones, 10 Archangels, 6 Ghost Bears, 6 Fire Birds from external dwellings, and upgraded 43 Wyverns. Flew to the opponent. With Air Scout, I saw he was clearing the treasure zone. Captured his castles, ran to him - oh my god, there were immediately 2 Dragon Utopias, Dragon Fly Hives, then more Dragon Utopias. Chased him for a couple of days, then with Scout saw a hero that appeared in the Rampart, and there were fewer heroes in the treasure zone - I ran, Luna replenishing mana. Town Portal to the opponent's main and I catch him there - Clavius (25-9-9-9) [1652 skeletons, 10 Archangels, 6 Ghost Dragons, 6 Ghosts, 43 Ghost Wyverns, 6 Fire Birds, 8 Ghost Roc] vs Luna (20-5-25-26) [7 Ghost Water Elementals, 4 Angels, 37 Wyverns, 18 Psychic Elementals, 3 Fire Birds, 1 Green Dragon, 22 Magma Elementals] With the Red Ball, no chance (there was also a Cloak for Cancel 3+, I thought for a long time about what exactly to equip - didn't want to fight without Haste on the Skeletons, but seeing there was little mana there, I decided the Archangels with the Ghost Wyverns would kill everything).

Thanks for the game! [idk if anyone reads these reports -.-]
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03/18/2012 crzq (Blue, Necropolis, Claudius, Claudius) def AlexAG (Red, Flax, random, Luna) Mini-nostalgia 215.
It was a good game, thanks for playing.
I'll write a detailed report tomorrow.
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[I doubt anyone even reads these reports -.-]
Of course not, it's just text! :smile06:
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I spoke with Scorpio and Dimast. I'm waiting for Tomash until Thursday. This is the last chance.
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Zzzloi-iSeeDeadPpl and Tomash-7z, your turn is extended until Thursday, March 22, 2012, in the evening. I hope to see the results of your games!:smile30:
Thank you, Dimast and crzq, for your understanding:o
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21.01.12 ariputra (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) def Tootsie Pie (red, Necropolis, Charna, Charna) 8ьь6ф 136

I took 1 rest, Tootsie Pie did not

fast roads, 2nd level built, 23 archers from the start

on turn 1 Inferno secondary hero with 1000 and Efreeti in the fort, home Cavaliers in the Citadel, Necklace of Swiftness in the chest, scouted 2 Griffin Conservatories, 2 Dragon Fly Hives, 2 Dwarf Cottages, Medusa Storage, 5 heroes, Valeska was a bit short of level 6,

on turn 2 three Dwarf Cottages on 15, Medusa Storage 6, 3 Griffin Conservatories (1), 2 Dragon Fly Hives on 12 Wyverns, Gnoll's CEP, Citadel in Inferno, home Monks in Castle,

turn 3 external dwelling of Efreeti, ring +1 Attack/Defense, Dragon Fly Hive on 8 Wyverns, Kelh in the subway discovered Charna with a pack of Skeletons dangerously close to the main,

turn 4 Valeska gets wiped running into an upgrade, reinforcement takes the Dragon Fly Hive (8), another Inferno secondary hero, the army leaves, Charna enters the University having moved a bit closer to the main,

turn 5 red's ГГ remained roughly in the same place on Fairies and Air, the army with 2 scout heroes, didn't know what to do, Skeletons were piling up, panic started, in the red army no one with speed greater than 7 was revealed (if no artifacts), decided to ride very close with a Grand Elf marker (with speed 8), hopes were on a buyout and a battle in the Castle, it was a deadly risk, there were Shackles, Charna was catching up, turned out Tootsie Pie hadn't seen either Valeska or the scout heroes and went the other way

turn 6 mailed Charna and the scout hero with split army

thanks for the interesting game
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There wasn't anyone in the Red army with a speed higher than 7.
That's strange, but in the screenshot, the Griffons have a speed of 9.
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That's strange, but in the screenshot, it looks like there are griffins on level 9.

They weren't available on level 135 yet.
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21.01.12 ariputra (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) def Tootsie Pie (red, Necropolis, Charna, Charna) 8ьь6ф 136

I took 1 restart, Tootsie Pie did not take any

fast roads, 2nd level built, 23 archers from the start

on day 1 Inferno secondary with 1000 and Efreeti in the fort, home Cavaliers in the Citadel, Pendant of Speed in the chest, 2 Griffin Conservatories scouted, 2 Dragon Fly Hives, 2 Dwarf Cottages, Medusa Store, 5 heroes, Valeska was a bit short of level 6,

on day 2 3 Dwarf Cottages at 15, Medusa Store 6, 3 Griffin Conservatories (1), 2 Dragon Fly Hives at 12 Wyverns, Gnoll's cep, Citadel in Inferno, home Monks in Castle,

day 133 external dwelling of Efreeti, ring +1a/d, Dragon Fly Hive at 8 Wyverns, Kelh in the metro discovered Charna with a pack of Skeletons dangerously close to the main,

day 134 Valeska gets crushed after running into the level-up structure, reinforcements take the Dragon Fly Hive (8), another Inferno secondary, the army moves away, Charna enters the University getting a bit closer to the main,

day 135 GG of red remained roughly in the same place on Fairies and Air elementals, the army with 2 scout heroes, didn't know what to do, Skeletons were piling up, panic began, none of red's army had speed greater than 7 (if no artifacts), decided to move in very close with a gr mark (speed 8), hope was for a buyout and a castle battle, it was deadly risky, there were Shackles of War, Charna could reach it, turned out Tootsie Pie had not seen either Valeska or the scout heroes and went the other way

day 136 mailed Charna and the scout hero with the split army

thanks for the interesting game
11 finished with 2 hundred Skeletons and 2 expert Necromancers - seems decent, but I only got to the adjacent zone on 121. Lost the second week - my native hero ran past the moved guard and chased away the 2nd Necromancer - decided not to go into the treasure zone but to kill him instead, otherwise he wouldn't give me any peace. 124 - only took the Castle, heroes are still running around. I ended up entering the treasure zone on day 13, there turned out to be as many as 2 Dragon Fly Hives, but on flat ground I forget to pass the Growth item - and lose 80 Skeletons in them.
I knew I was approaching the enemy, and there was even contact - and after 3 days of hovering within the enemy's reach, I carefully split the army into almost equal parts - as a token of love for the enemies, apparently :eek: .
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22.03.12 7z (red, Necropolis, Galthran, Galthra) def Tomash (blue, Castle, Valeska, WolvesAlc) jebus cross 125

Not a single external dwelling on respawn. 3 hives and a Griffin Conservatory with double stack. But artifacts rolled quite well. 3 Pandora's Boxes for experience, gloves and boots, helmet +6 to all stats, sword +6 to attack, shield +5 to defense. Overall, left the main at 123 with stats 20/21/17/16.

The center turned out even poorer. Not a single Dragon Utopia, hives far from the road. The only joy - the Book of Earth, and even that was behind green Efreeti. Didn't take it, but rushed toward the opponent through Crystal Giants.

Caught him near ГО. All stats around 5. Army incomparable.

Thanks for the game.
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22.03.12 7z (red, Necropolis, Galthran, Galthra) def Tomash (blue, Castle, Valeska, Vokial) jebus cross 125

On the respawn, not a single external dwelling. 3 Dragon Fly Hives and a Griffin Conservatory double. On the other hand, the artifacts loot was decent. 3 Pandora's Boxes for experience, Gloves and Boots, Helm +6 to everything, Sword +6 to attack, Shield +5 to defense. Overall, I left the main on 123 with stats 20/21/17/16.

The center turned out even poorer. Not a single Dragon Utopia, Dragon Fly Hives far from the road. The only joy - the Book of Earth, and even that was behind Greater Efreeti. I didn't take it, but rushed to the opponent through the Crystal Giants.

I caught him at ГО. Stats around 5 across the board. Army incomparable.

Thanks for the game.

yeah.

some crazy bad luck, in all the drafts not once was the 2nd level built, never saw an external dwelling of angels, external dwellings of levels 1-2 seem to not exist at all .....

in the end, I mustered up to 12 Archers and 29 Pikemen from all heroes and the Castle

I kept fumbling, trying to somehow necro-magic something, but the pace was too slow due to the lack of troops, I apologize to the opponent, I really didn't want to lose, but in essence I should have surrendered in the first week:smile05:
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21.03.2012 iSeeDeadPpl (Red, Castle, Valeska, Kyrre) def Zzzloi (Blue, Rampart, Mephala, Mephala) Jebus Cross 135

We played in three sittings. I'll say right away, I screwed up during the map creation stage. I don't know what I was thinking creating a Jebus Cross with underground, but the fact remains: we played on a ruthless, bugged map. Zzzloi, by the way, only noticed this on the next day of our game, when I had already used all my restarts, the opponent had taken 2, and the in-game date was 141 (or 151). Anyway, we discussed it and decided to continue. Though, judging by everything, this proved fatal for my opponent.

My start was simply catastrophic. On the first day, I picked up 26 archers, upgraded them (the second level was built), and then, two steps from the castle, I lost them to 43 unupgraded crocodiles. The opponent still had 1 restart left, and I hopefully pass the turn. No restart followed. In the end, I was left with 4 heroes on hand (one of them Kyrre), hardly any gold in sight, no army. Surrendering was stupid, so I decided to try my luck. I scattered with 4 heroes, not along the roads, but I found some gold and resources, and three days from the castle — a market, a bunch of unguarded water mills and gardens. A Dragon Fly Hive behind the crocodiles and zombies, an external dwelling of angels behind unupgraded demons, and a Pandora's Box right there for a pack of Wyverns. A glimmer of hope appeared. Kyrre found a bypass to a secondary town, picking up free pikemen along the way — and suddenly I had a secondary Tower town. Earlier than my opponent.

I played very frugally, immediately decided to go for angels at all costs, and didn't buy any army. I bought one extra hero, ran along the road in the opposite direction from everything, but there was a block — wasted money. The angels finally went up in the citadel. Then things really started going my way. On day 121, I took the external dwelling of angels, then a Pandora's Box for 10k experience, a Pandora's Box for 5k, a max-level Dragon Fly Hive, expert attack, logistics. For some reason, Water Magic was pushed on me, and, I don't remember at what stage, I had to take Wisdom. On the way to the second village, I take a Dragon Fly Hive (8), 2 external dwellings of horses, I burn another Dragon Fly Hive and a Griffin Conservatory. On the other edge of the map, another external dwelling of angels.

I take a Pandora's Box behind a stack of upgraded Liches and get all of level 5 magic. I couldn't believe my eyes. At first, I was scared it would be taken from me right away :) I just completely forgot when I had mastered Wisdom. I even checked the spellbook to make sure all the spells were there :). I took another Pandora's Box behind Nomads: +40 Marksmen. By the way, I had already sent all the other Marksmen to eat. On day 127, with the Loaches, I took the second external dwelling of angels. The guard and the angels themselves were fed by 5 Fanatics and 3 Horses. I felt sorry for the Horses.

On day 131, I took an angel from the external dwellings. While passing along the chain, I dropped a Hat +3 and a Shield +5. Moved into the Griffin Conservatory. Max-level, of course :) From there, I broke Kyrre into a village to refill mana and take the Dragon Utopia, passed the turn, and then Mephala appeared in person. She smashed the GO from a stack of upgraded Behemoths three days' travel from my main and slipped back into the darkness. Mephala's stats weren't too impressive, I didn't see the army composition (except for the grand stack), but I got worried. The next day, I took a min-level Dragon Fly Hive, transferred troops to Kyrre, cast Fly, captured another min-level Dragon Fly Hive, freed Thane level 5 and Vistina with expert logistics, but couldn't reach the Dragon Utopia. I passed the turn and watched Mephala moving from the darkness along the road toward my main. I was ahead in army and stats.

On day 134, I finally take the Dragon Utopia. The meat was only what Vistina and Thane brought, and it was all devoured in the first round. I had only 45 mana after Fly, the enemy was at the gates, so I cast nothing. As a result, 6 Wyverns died for a Sword +12, an anti-resistance Sphere, a Chain +4, and a Necklace of Lightning. I break into the main, transfer troops, upgrade the Archangel for the first move. Mephala is a couple of squares short of reaching my main. I don't understand at all what she's doing here. I attack. The opponent writes GG and quits after the first turn's Implosion takes out 42 Grands.

Thanks to Zzzloi for the game.
What else can I say? Play Heroes, it's cooler than poker.
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22.03.2012 In0k (Red, Stronghold, Dessa, Dessa) def PlayHeroes_HP (Blue, Swamp, Tazar, Ciele) 8mm6a, 211

111 wolves not built, placed orcs. starting artifact amulet +3 mana/turn, in the skeleton a shield +4 defense
112 in the cart a chain +4 attack
113 cleared 60 dwarves, in the prison a hero lvl 5 with native meat, stable by the road.
114 placing a thousand
115 found some gold, put down the Citadel
116 along the chosen direction I hit a block of 20-49 Liches, now 3 more turns to run back to the fork, pointless to fight (same distance from the castle to run)
117 bears are up, just need to find gold for buying.
123 caught a bug, took a prison – didn't get the hero, a shame though (
127 took Inferno (Efreeti not there, no castle, income a thousand, ugh) the opponent skips deep into the respawn, too lazy to chase.
132 1 Inferno hero dies, building capitol in main
134 killed Conflux, learned Earth magic in the castle
135 went down to the treasure zone, leveled up Expert Earth
136 like a noob I held onto a couple mana points and lost the bear (even though I have 30+ of it and 9 per turn) slapped myself in the face, playing on
137 mini Dragon Fly Hive, revealed 2 Griffin Conservatories on Conflux, Phoenixes in the fort.
141 library, gloves of speed, ring +1 HP from the grave, I see another ring for HP.
speed boost comes to 3500-4400
took a max Dragon Utopia, gave away all the Barbarian meat (Goblins, Orcs, Wolves) instead of bringing some from Conflux, got Wings, a sword +5 to all, cloak +2 speed
147 3+1 Griffin Conservatories
211 pre-max Dragon Utopia: Captain's hat, bag of gold, book of Air, and Dragon Blood (collected +25% to HP)
opponent surrendered, we never found each other, though I wasn't in a hurry, had Air scrying.
Thanks for the game, too bad we didn't finish.
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22.03.2012 In0k (Red, Stronghold, Deesa, Deesa) def PlayHeroes_HP (Blue, Fortress, Tazar, Ciele) 8mm6a, 211

111 wolves not built, placed orcs. starting artifact amulet +3 mana/turn, in skeleton shield +4 defense
112 in cart chain +4 attack
113 killed 60 gnomes, in prison hero lvl 5 with native meat, stables on the road.
114 I place a thousand
115 found some gold, slapped down a Citadel
116 along the chosen direction I hit a block of 20-49 liches, now another 3 turns running back to the fork, pointless to fight (from the castle it's the same distance)
117 bears are up, just need to find money for the buyout.
123 got a bug, took the prison - didn't get the hero, quite upsetting though(
127 took Inferno (efreeti not standing, no castle, income a thousand, ugh) comp skips deep into the spawn, can't be bothered chasing him.
132 1 Inferno hero killed, I place capitol in main
134 killed Conflux, learned Earth in the castle
135 went down to treasure zone, leveled up Expert Earth
136 like a noob I held back a couple of mana points and lost the bear (even though I have 30+ and 9 per turn) slapped myself on the face, we play on
137 mini Dragon Fly Hive, revealed 2 Griffin Conservatories on Conflux, phoenixes in the fort.
141 library, gloves of speed, +1 HP ring from the grave, I see another HP ring.
speed boost comes out to 3500-4400
took max Dragon Utopia, gave all Barbarian meat (goblins, orcs, wolves) instead of bringing it from Conflux, got wings, sword +5 to everything, cloak +2 speed
147 Conservatories 3+1
211 pre-max Dragon Utopia: captain's hat, gold bag, tome of air and blood of the dragon (got +25% to HP)
opponent surrendered, we never found each other, though I wasn't in a hurry, had air scout.
Thanks for the game, too bad we didn't finish.

that's exactly how it was, I made a bunch of mistakes -))

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