Posts from "Новичок-2012. Winter"

10.02.12 Group F, Inok (red, Castle, Valeska, Gunnar) def Fellshut (blue, Swamp, Vistan, Pasis) 2sm4d(3) 211
we each took 1 restart and 1 technical, played in 2 sessions, the replay only took 2 hours.
fast roads, Valeska with 2 stacks, archers not built, scouting artifact, dungeon hero with harpies (for speed boost), native only with pikemen.
111 on the road a block of Zealots 20-49 guarding a prison, managed to run around through a mill, spending 8 movement points on rough terrain. Scattered across the grass, I see a stable and a prison.
112 I take the stable, delve deeper into the respawn, in the prison Moandor (necro), I reveal 2 external archer dwellings deeper in, decide to play.
113 I see a Griffin Conservatory
115 I return with Valeska from the respawn to the road, meanwhile upgrade archers, a scout hero reveals another external archer dwelling and a Griffin Conservatory deeper in.
116 Horses spawned in the castle, no decent hero came to the main, Valeska level 5, expert Leadership (well, better this than Eagle Eye and KO), but there are 2 prisons (1 behind Zealots 20-49, 2 behind Monks 50-99) I plan to hit the Monks on week 2.
117 4th external archer dwelling, waaaaaagh! I move Valeska onto a Mystical Garden, prepare to break out next turn.
121 I see that the opponent already took a secondary town, I break out, buy archers in the castle, go with 75 units into a Naga Bank, level 4 with a grand stack, I sacrifice all 37 bought pikemen and chow from skeletons/zombies, 8k gold goes to buying 5 horses and buying archers from external dwellings, no money again)
123 I take the prison - Gunnar level 10, satisfied, despite expert Ballistics and no magic, Dwarf Cottage pre-max
124 by accident! I discover a pleasant surprise for myself, cavalry at the external stable become Champions, then 3 Medusa dens scouted by heroes in a chain, all pre-max
125 I build a castle, Gunnar ran to take the secondary town
126 Pandora's Box at the secondary town behind a pile of Earth Elementals - 70 Zombies, what joy.
127 I take the necro secondary town, a small trade and I build Angels, the opponent still has more castles, sad.
131 Dwarf dwelling pre-min, the chain didn't work out, while I goofed off, dismissed a hero, hired a new one, time was tight, in the end I'm standing before the Griffin Conservatory with Valeska and didn't even speed boost.
132 Griffin Conservatory level 3
133 Griffin Conservatory level 2
134 I burst into the treasure zone with Gunnar
135 out of stupidity I lost an Angel to Genies, but I reclaimed the wings
136-137 I ran through the treasure zone, Pandora's Box with 100+ Gold Golems for 5k experience, Cap of +6 to all stats behind grand Minotaurs, a Dragon Fly Hive with 8 Wyverns, I see an exit to the surface
141 I dragged a lot of chow along, but a Dragon Utopia didn't turn up
I summon 2 Angels (all I could afford) and pop out with Gunnar from the treasure zone to the surface, hit a couple of guards, see the opponent's secondary town - Rampart.
142 I captured Rampart, bought a spell book, then burst into the Swamp
143 I captured the Swamp - absolutely all growth was bought out
144 I took an observation tower - see a treasure zone, the opponent hid from me, scouts with meat for chow in Dragon Utopias (which never turned up) scattered in all directions to reclaim castles and scout, I jump over mountains into the treasure zone - see an underground exit into it - the guard is broken, I decide to eat "his" treasure zone, take an external Angel dwelling, minimal Dragon Fly Hive, Pandora's Box for 20k experience (I train expert Archery from scratch)
I see Pasis with 28 attack, realize he ate a Dragon Utopia, maybe more than one, I decide to run
145 Pasis with his retinue in the treasure zone on speed boost 4 (Gnolls, Troglodytes) I'm on speed boost 6 (Logistics) + it's Gunnar) brazenly right before his eyes I eat a Pandora's Box behind grand Cyclopes - all the Air - excellent. + a Dragon Fly Hive, again minimal
146 he runs towards me, slowly but surely)) I run away - along the way I eat a Shield +5, 2 more Dragon Fly Hives - both minimal, I swap my own +3 defense armor for +5, the last skill given is Artillery or Eagle Eye - I cry, no magic at all. And they even offered Earth... but I decided to max out expert Archery
147 I run further, take Gloves of Speed, a Pandora's Box for 10k experience and a free level-up tree, Pasis almost caught up, a couple of turns short) Meanwhile I took all the opponent's castles except one - Barbarian - I didn't go for the monster with my weak meat.
211 Pandora's Box for 5k experience - I maxed out expert Ballista (Trollface) - in principle I could already fight, but due to the lack of any magic I decide not to risk it and play as safely as possible, I cut a wild detour with my hero through the mountains (and we ran deep, it'll take the opponent 4 turns just to get out of the eaten treasure zone) - I kill Vistan level 12, take 1 more Angel from an external dwelling, the opponent writes GG and quits.
If the Dragon Fly Hives were more substantial, maybe I would have attacked, especially since I couldn't check the opponent, what if it's just 20-49 max Wyverns)

Thanks for a very interesting game!

Gunnar
Pasis

Group C
10.02.2012 KaccuaH (red Tower Nela, Nela) def Tag (blue conjugation Erdamon Mefala ) 2SM4d(3) 124

We restarted terribly... He took all the goodies from me...
111 Took a prison with 67 gremlins, there's a hero, along the roads either 20-49 ghosts or 20-49 snakes...
112 Broke through the snakes, ran further..
113 Took the crypt at max with minor losses
114 5 heroes so far
115 I see that I'm 1 sulfur short for construction, so either lose all moves and hit 20-49 harpies (around 46 creatures in count)
116 Still can't see sulfur, I'm running and see that gogs are defending the road, decided to break through the ghosts...
117 Defense made of dwarves, and I see a castle
1-3 in the castle =( There's an external dwelling of nagas but it's defended by 20-49 grand elves
121 I see the opponent also has 2 castles but I'm leading in heroes, scouted the respawn 2, collected gold for a full buyback and almost everything is supplied well, broke through sulfur and built mages
122 Went deeper into the respawn, saw an entrance to the treasure zone guarded by 20-49 earth elementals, not touching it yet, I see 2 crypts
123 Didn't have enough supply to move the army by 1 move=( Built nagas and preparing a chain for the 2nd crypt and moving the army to take the external dwelling
124 Taking the crypt, collecting resources in the area, breaking through small fry, approaching the crypt
And the opponent surrenders and writes gg.
Thanks for the game...

So don't count me out just yet=)))

Group C
10.02.2012 KaccuaH (red Tower Nela, Nela) def Tag (blue conjugation Erdamon Mefala ) 2SM4d(3) 124

We restarted like crazy... He took away all the easy wins from me...
111 Took a prison 67 gremlins, there's gr, along the roads either 20-49 ghosts or 20-49 snakes...
112 Broke through the snakes, ran further..
113 Took the crypt max with minor losses
114 5 heroes so far
115 see that I'm 1 sulfur short for construction, so either lose all moves and hit 20-49 harpies (about 46 units by count)
116 Still can't see any sulfur, I'm running and see that gogs are defending the road, decided to break through the ghosts...
117 Def made of dwarves, and I see a castle
1-3 in the castle =( There's an external dwelling of nagas but it's defended by 20-49 giants
121 I see the opponent also has 2 castles but I'm leading in heroes, scouted resp 2 collected gold for a full ransom and brought almost everything okay, broke through the sulfur built mages
122 went deeper into the resp, saw an entrance to the treasure zone behind 20-49 earth elementals, not touching it yet I see 2 crypts
123 Didn't have enough moves to bring the army =( built nagas and preparing a chain for the 2nd crypt and bringing the army to take the external dwelling
124 I take the crypt gather resources in the area, break through the small fry approach the crypt
And the opponent surrenders and writes gg.
Thanks for the game...

So don't count me out just yet =)))

It happened, he surrendered on diamond golems due to impatience)
Thanks for the game.

Kas, keep carrying us further)))

10.02.12 Group F, ariputra (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def mhhf (blue, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) 2sm4d(3) 122

used all the rests

fast roads, Shakti came with three stacks, ended up with 159 Troglodytes from the start, on 111 a Griffin Conservatory and 2 Nagas were revealed, on 112 a Griffin Conservatory and another one turned out to be singles :smile44:, 113 reinforcement took Boots of Speed from the Air Elementals and Gnoll huts on 15, on 114 a mini Naga and another Griffin Conservatory 1-stack, by the end of the week took Inferno secondary, Helm +2 knowledge and Sword +2 attack/knowledge, exit to the upper level revealed on the road, home 12346 in Citadel,

on 121 bought up and brought growth, could have gone up, but first decided to run into Inferno to buy a spell book, built Mage Guild but it turned out the book costs 500, not 132, Shakti with advanced Logistics, Boots, and Angels ran on 3000 movement points, managed to reach the metro and peek up top at a grassy respawn that turned out to be the enemy's, on 122 went up, at the fork guessed the direction and found Melody with a Master Genie in the Castle, after the attack a surrender followed,

on the other road could have met a scout hero and Kyrre with 2 Pegasi, 7 Elves, a bit further the Cape +2 to speed and almost reached two Griffin Conservatories which turned out to be a 3-stack with a Gnoll stack and a single,

thanks for an interesting game

Superman and Batman against Shakti with such a Master Genie of Troglodytes are nervously smoking on the sidelines :D

Group D
10.02.2012 AlexAG (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def Demon13 (blue, Tower, Solmyr, Solmyr) 2SM4d(3) 136
We started playing a long time ago, played until turn 115, then my opponent had some sort of internet and computer issue - we had to postpone the game for a while (due to a 9-hour time zone difference, it was hard to coordinate)
As for what happened in the first 5 days - I remember it very vaguely, one thing I can say for sure - without a wood mine (which, as it turned out later, was behind a guard of a hive - a group of cyclopes) I somehow managed to build levels 1-5 in the castle in the first five days, but I had exactly 0 wood left... At the same time, in the first 5 days, two minimal Dwarf Cottages were scouted and opened
The passage to the secondary town was blocked by another Dragon Fly Hive with a guard of a group of wolves - nothing to be done, had to break through with what I had (which was a hundred Troglodytes, 3 Minotaurs, 4 Medusas, 7 Evil Eyes, 3 Archers, and a couple of Harpies). All the Minotaurs and a small part of the Troglodytes were lost on the wolves.
On turn 117, I barely reach a pile of wood in the secondary town - and manage to build a Manticore, though, I don't have that much gold left.
On turn 122, a minimal Griffin Conservatory with a large stack is discovered in the secondary town, and a chain awaits a small influx of gold to transport the Manticore and new Minotaurs to the Conservatory.
Turn 123 - I take the secondary town, take the Angel, gather a bit more gold
Turn 124 - I send troops back to the main via chain, Shakti is defeated and recruited in the main
Turn 125 - I open a minimal Naga Bank, have some gold to upgrade the Minotaurs and Manticore
Turn 126 - I open a Dwarf Cottage (30), stand next to the teleporter for a speed boost.
Turn 127 - I break through the teleporter (it leads underground), immediately behind it I see an underground exit - I break through it and get an exit to the opponent's main with one road. Shakti runs back, a scout hero runs to scout instead, and the troops leave for an upgrade via chain. The scout hero dies in the passage, though.
Turn 131 - the troops with reinforcements and upgrades return, Shakti slowly trudges to the opponent's main
Turn 132 - a second scout hero runs after Shakti, runs a bit along the road and discovers the road leads to a grass secondary... Shakti runs away through the snow in the opposite direction looking for the castle and Solmyr.
Turn 133 - Shakti runs out to a road, in one direction the road clearly leads to the GO, so it's decided to run the other way - that's where the opponent's Tower turns out to be, in which Solmyr sits with five Nagas and a small army (the main stack of Gremlins, as it turned out later, was wandering on the other end of the map)
On the second-to-last turn, Shakti kills the scout hero at the castle entrance, on the last turn - reaches Solmyr, a large Fireball follows (why large - because there were a couple of small ones afterwards). I have - 12 upgraded Minotaurs, a hundred-plus upgraded Troglodytes, 30+ regular Troglodytes, 20+ Evil Eyes, 10 Scorpicores, the opponent has - 5 Mages, 5 Nagas, 50 Gremlins, and a couple of Golems/Gargoyles. During the Fireball, two unpleasant surprises emerged - first, Solmyr managed to use Chain Lightning a couple of times - level 4 guild was a complete surprise... And second, the drunk Minotaurs decided to parade along the city walls and conveniently died on the fourth mine - if not for this, the opponent would have surrendered immediately and wouldn't have tried to finish me off for three more turns :)
After the battle, 123 Troglodytes and 20 Evil Eyes remain, but Shakti still has no spell book and can't reach the castle to buy one...
4 Mages are hastily bought in the castle to not surrender the castle to the opponent for free...
During the transition, the opponent reaches Shakti with 200+ Gremlins, but 20 Evil Eyes noticeably shorten the Gremlin stack, killing almost all of the rest, after which Shakti escapes on two Evil Eyes.
Turn 134 - Shakti is immediately recruited in the Tower, takes the 4 Mages and a couple of Gargoyles, buys a spell book, and runs to finish off the opponent's scout heroes.
Turn 135 - The scout heroes are in no hurry to throw themselves under the hooves, so Shakti runs into the marketplace, exchanges most of the unnecessary resources for gold, and with the received 11K, the Medusas are upgraded in the main, after which all Medusas and Harpies are recruited and sent to help
Turn 136 - the troops arrive at the destination, another unsuccessful attempt to kill Shakti follows during the transition, after which "GG" comes from the opponent

Thanks for the game :)

Group D
02/10/2012 AlexAG (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def Demon13 (blue, Tower, Solmyr, Solmyr) 2SM4d(3) 136

That's exactly what happened; when the opponent's hero ran out of the dungeon, Solmyr was defeated (although he barely managed to gather enough resources to buy him back, otherwise it would have been game over right away). However, about two hundred gems with gargoyles remained below, and it wasn't possible to pass them along in a chain... In general, the whole game was full of failures, but I hoped to avenge Solmyr and finish off Shakti until the very end. Thanks for the game:smile54:

I watched the match described above, and very enthusiastically at that, I liked it. Regarding the unsuccessful attempts to finish off the Sharptooths, they were practically successful; just a trifle was missing — one more morale for the Gremlins, or a bit more damage, plus they had +1 Luck. The shooters from the Wight missed a +1 turn with a direct arrow and failed to finish off 2 Evil Eyes, and a bit of mana to finish off after the Ring of Cold with an arrow, or a slightly different hero in a different place, and the match would have ended differently. The Sharptooth player was lucky, of course, with all 4 battles

10.02.12 Group F, ariputra (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def mhhf (blue, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) 2sm4d(3) 122

Confirmed.

Everything was going well: Solmyr and Kyrre were fighting on two fronts. Skeleton transformers, artifacts, the elven external dwelling, the stables, wells as if on order, a Dragon Utopia under the castle. I took the secondary hero (68 gogs) fairly quickly, enough money to buy creatures.

It seemed that I was ahead of my opponent both in the number of heroes and in tempo. I set up in a line before the dead knights (cloak giving +2 to speed), then two Griffin Conservatories, and gave the army for an upgrade.

But then I got attacked and killed :)
Thanks for the game.

10.02.12 Group E, kalababa (red, Stronghold, Gurmi, Gurmi) def. Snooppy (blue, Castle, Valerka, Valerka) 2sm4d(3) 117
The opponent at 117 wrote that he may have violated the rules; the saves were sent to Pete, and the investigation revealed a violation.

02/10/12 Group E, kalababa (red, Stronghold, Gurney, Gurney) def Snooppy (blue, Castle, Valerka, Valerka) 2sm4d(3) 117
The opponent wrote on turn 117 that he might have broken the rules; the saves were sent to Pete, and the analysis revealed a violation.

Confirmed! It generated all sorts of nonsense... all my roads on all secondary structures - I got confused in the template and didn't notice that the guard wasn't guarding anything (i.e., shifted to a secondary structure). When I realized this, it was already critical...

Thanks for the game and your time!

P.S. The first (and only) secondary structure I captured was in zone 6 :smile40: (a bugged passage thanks to the metro in the treasury).

29.01.2012 group E 7z(blue, Citadel, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) def Kalababa(red, Inferno, Pire, Pire) 2sm4d(3) 112

it was, thx for the game

The leaderboard results have been updated! Yesterday was a very active day:smile54:
I hope more players will join over the weekend and in the coming days!!!:smile14:

Group E, I have two games left. marader-kisa I think I see him on the forum, and we can negotiate via PM. But he says he can't send me a message on the game. However, I see him in someone's Hamachi, so I'll try to contact him there. 7z It's not a problem to find him; he's an active player. We'll play.

Group F
11.02.12 mhhf (red, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) def Memphis (blue, Tower, Neela, Neela) 2sm4d(3) 125

The respawn was mediocre, stretched vertically; picking up the lower observation tower confirmed this. I thought so until I found an external dwelling of unicorns and stables on the border of the visible area. I had to go upward.
The upper exit to the secondary zone (grass) broke through easily after the Medusa upgrade, Kyrre already had Tactics, and Pegasi were delivered by cart. By the end of the week, I took and partially cleared the Conflux. I ran down, there was another Conflux. I cleared the crypts, maxed the Medusa dwelling, knocked off a few artifacts.
I wanted to stall the game; it was time to go into the treasure zone.
Suddenly, the opponent broke through the ГО and was clearly going to take my Castle, but he got greedy, killed a scout hero on the way, captured the Castle, but didn't manage to sit down.
That's when I caught him with Kyrre.

Thanks for the game.

Group F
11.02.12 mhhf (red, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) def Memphis (blue, Tower, Neela, Neela) 2sm4d(3) 125

The respawn was average, stretched vertically — taking the lower scout confirmed this. I thought that was the case until I found an external dwelling of unicorns and stables on the edge of the explored area. I had to go up.
The upper exit to the secondary (grass) after the medusa upgrade was breached easily; Kyrre had already picked up Tactics, and the cart delivered pegasi. By the end of the week, I took it and cleared some of the Conflux. I ran down, there was another Conflux. I cleared the crypts, maxed out the medusa dwelling, knocked off a few artifacts.
I wanted to stall the game; it was high time to go to the treasure zone.
Suddenly the opponent breached the GO and was clearly about to take my castle, but got greedy — killed a scout hero along the way, captured the castle, but didn't manage to sit down.
That's when I took him down with Kyrre.

Thanks for the game.

Confirmed. In the first week, after taking the secondary, the only road was blocked by a stack of mighty gorgons (20-49). I broke through it on the second try by bringing 3 nagas, but didn't have enough gold to buy all of them out. There turned out to be 30 gorgons; I lost the nagas and 40 gremlins. Later I realized it would have been better to take golems — they withstand hits better. And in the final fight, I had no chance. Kyrre with Expert Tactics and pegasi + unicorns wiped out my main gremlins in one turn. I think even if I had managed to sit in the castle, my chances were slim.
Thanks for the game.