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10.02.2012 Mizrael (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Gundula) def. Wishmaster (blue, Fortress, Wystan, Wystan) 147

I quickly eliminated Wishmaster's fast angel with Shakti in the early game, then switched to Gundula. In the end, 3 manticores and 2 dragons were enough to win, even with him venturing into the center on week 3. Thanks for the game.
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11.02.12 Kilgor (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def Albert@s (blue, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) SoD, Jebus Cross, 125

I'll write a detailed report tomorrow, I'm very tired, it's already 5 AM.
I don't even know what to say, I'm in shock, not a single decent draw, either 12 Gnolls, or 13 Gnolls, after all the restarts - 2 Flies came... in the end it threw - no 2nd level, 2 external dwellings of geese (one for 40+ Infernal Dogs and a chest for 10 gold - took it on week 1, the second for 50-99 Greater Demons with a library - obviously didn't take it), 6 external dwellings of Gnolls, 1 of Lizardmen, on the respawn not a single (!) hive (and why would I need one), and 1 Griffin Conservatory - took it without checking - max on 122... in total: 1.2 (gr), 3.6 in the castle and GM1, in the secondary a market, after the Conservatory with Expert Logistics and Slow (30 mana) I split into the main for mana, not a single artifact for pairs, same as no utopias on the respawn... 123 I hit GO - 10 Monarchs, 4 Angels, 40 Lizardmen, 160 Gnolls and Flies, then a pack of Hydras for 5 all, 70+ Nagas for 10 SP, then another pack of Hydras and Nagas, then a block - 20-49 gr. Hydras - he would have broken through, but I would have had 0 mana, didn't risk it, a step off-road (Pathfinding is present, but it's not enough to enter the broken treasure castle for mana, kissed the broken gates and passed the turn, Shakti attacks - 100+ mana vs my 8 (pairs 15-18-13, Mass Haste and Slow)), well no way, it would have been fine, I'd have run over in a day, but there were Bracers on top of that, Blindness and GG, thanks for the game!
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10.02.2012 herolwy(blue, stronghold, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) def Magl(red, rampart, Ivor, Ivor) 133

I had sp+1 and learned expert haste. I took a Utopia at home and got speelbinder's hat. I went into the desert, and fly into a Dungeon town on 132. Luckily, Ivor was near the town. And on 133 I attacked him. He had only 10 spell point.
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11.02.2012 Juristis (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Dessa) def Sky Pioneer (red, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar/Brissa) 125
Opp took 112, I didn't take any rests. Dealt 2 stacks, 2nd level built, Dessa comes in and picks up offense at the upgrade hut. An external dwelling of dragons is revealed. On 112 I break a camp, and there's an archangel! Got boots and a cloak 2-2, a few small crypts. I'm thinking about how to divide responsibilities between the heroes.
113 - broke the external dragon dwelling, took the secondary Rampart, built a portal.
114 - maxed out the Hive, a dragon survived on 6 HP. Shakti took an empty Pandora's box. Both heroes have Earth magic.
115 - as usual, my first turn will be terrible. Shakti goes into the throne Griffin Conservatory, turns out to be a level 3 one, well at least that. 2 moral procs on big stacks take out a dragon and 2 Wyverns. A crypt with a mini Dwarf Cottage, and I end up without a day to build because I misplayed gold. Dessa in Rampart refills mana, having previously taken 10k experience from Pandora's boxes.
116 - Rion takes a Pandora's box, and it's all Fire magic, I only learn levels 1-3. Was unlucky with Pandora's boxes this time. Dessa at the library, Shakti takes a mini Naga Bank.
117 - Shakti a level 4 Hive, a flail, Aiden takes an external Minotaur dwelling and a level 8 Hive. Dessa at the stables. Revealed another Dragon Fly Hive and a sword +6, I decide to delay my exit by a day. At home, Minotaurs in the Citadel.
121 - Shakti a level 2 Griffin Conservatory, Dessa a level 6 Dragon Fly Hive, sword +6, Deemer a mini Griffin Conservatory.
Dragon in the portal.
122 - Fiur takes an external dwelling of Cats, Shakti took a Pandora's box with 45 Harpies. Dessa before the Dragon Utopia near the ГО, boosting on a dragon.
123 - Shakti a mini Dwarf Cottage (by the way, not a single crypt with Vampires appeared out of about 10, both Dwarf Cottages are mini, Naga Bank too). Dessa hits a level 3 Dragon Utopia, -angel and Resurrection, give a helmet +6 to everything and a shield +12. Then a ГО with 100+ Thunderbirds, Titan's Plate in the treasure zone, and a prison with Elleshar with expertise in Pathfinding. Well, another Dragon Utopia, mini, with a Gladius +12 and gloves.
124 - central marsh, shackles, Earth booster behind 100 Cyclops, mini Dragon Fly Hive, and a Pandora's box with 10k gold behind 13 Power Liches (killed surprisingly easily). I kill Vistan. 3 or 4 Hives are revealed immediately.
125 - Tazar comes out, attacks. There are 3 Angels, 17 upgraded Wyverns, 3 Hydras, 11 Basilisks, 65 Gnolls, an Elixir of Life. Stats 14-20-8-9 I think, 25 mana. I have 1 Archangel, 5 Angels, 3 Dragons, 13 upgraded Minotaurs, 32 Wyverns, a couple of Harpies. 26-24-24-14, enough mana. Forgot that I could use the info scroll since any hero learned all fire magic. Maybe I would have killed Tazar that way. After the trade, opp buys back, I have 2 Dragons left, all Minotaurs, 2 Angels, and 14 Wyverns.
Immediately Brissa attacks with 15 spell power, I forget that I can buy back on Tactics, and I get hit by Chain Lightning. Angels and Wyverns remain, buyback. On the retaliatory turn, I waste 1-2 snakes each against Brissa with junk troops, and attack with 7 Wyverns and shackles using Dessa, when she has no mana left and 1 snake. I grab the Tome of Air Magic, opp surrenders. Thanks for the game. The layout was in my favor, but opp played well and could have pulled it off.
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11.02.2012 Juristis (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Dessa) def Sky Pioneer (red, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar/Brissa) 125
Opp took 112, I didn't take rest stops. Dealt 2 stacks, 2 levels built, Dessa arrives and grabs offense at the upgrade. An external dwelling of drakes is spotted. On 112 I break the camp, and there's an archangel! Got boots and a cloak 2-2, a few crypts. I'm pondering how to split the duties between the heroes.
113 - broke the drake external dwelling, grabbed a secondary Rampart, placed a portal.
114 - maxed the Hive, the dragon survived on 6 HP. Shakti took an empty Pandora's Box. Both heroes have earth magic.
115 - as usual, I make a terrible move on turn 1. Shakti goes into the throne Griffin Conservatory, turns out to be a three-stack, at least that. 2 procs of morale on the big stacks take out the dragon and 2 Wyverns. A crypt with a mini Dwarf Cottage, and I end up without a day for building because I messed up with gold. Dessa in Rampart refills mana, having taken 10k experience from Pandora's Boxes before that.
116 - take a Pandora's Box with Rion, and it's all fire magic, only learn spells levels 1-3. Unlucky with Pandora's Boxes this time. Dessa at the library, Shakti takes a mini Naga Bank.
117 - Shakti hits a Hive for 4, a flail, Ayden takes a Minotaur external dwelling and a Hive for 8. Dessa at the stables. I spot another Dragon Fly Hive and a sword +6, I decide to delay my exit by a day. Minotaurs at home in the Citadel.
121 - Shakti takes a two-stack Griffin Conservatory, Dessa takes a Dragon Fly Hive for 6, sword +6, Deemer takes a mini Griffin Conservatory.
A dragon in the portal.
122 - Fiur takes a Harpy external dwelling, Shakti took a Pandora's Box with 45 Harpies. Dessa before a Dragon Utopia near ГO, speeding up with the dragon.
123 - Shakti takes a mini Dwarf Cottage (by the way, not a single crypt with Vampires appeared out of about 10, both Dwarf Cottages are mini, the Naga Bank too). Dessa hits a three-stack Dragon Utopia, -1 angel and a feast, they give a helm +6 to all stats and a shield +12. Then ГO with 100+ Thunderbirds, Titan's Plate in the treasure zone and a prison with Elleshar who has expert pathfinding. Well, another Dragon Utopia, mini, with a Gladius +12 and gloves.
124 - central Fortress, Shackles of War, earth boost behind 100 Cyclopes, a mini Dragon Fly Hive and a Pandora's Box with 10k gold behind 13 black dragons (killed surprisingly easily). I kill Vistan. I spot 3 or 4 Hives right away.
125 - Tazar emerges and attacks. He has 3 angels, 17 greater Wyverns, 3 Hydras, 11 Basilisk stashes, 65 Gnolls, Elixir of Life. Stats around 14-20-8-9, 25 mana. I have 1 Archangel, 5 angels, 3 dragons, 13 greater Minotaurs, 32 Wyverns, a few Harpies. 26-24-24-14, enough mana. I forgot you can use a View Info scroll if any hero took all the fire magic. Would have maybe killed Taz that way. After the trade, the opp resurrects, I'm left with 2 drakes, all Minotaurs, 2 angels, and 14 ducks.
Brissa immediately attacks with 15 spell power, I forget you can seize the initiative and get chained. Angels and ducks remain, I resurrect. On the return turn, I sacrifice hero slingers to Brissa for 1-2 serpents each and attack with 7 Wyverns and Shackles of War with Dessa when she has no mana left and 1 serpent. I grab the Air Book, opp surrenders. Thanks for the game. The odds were in my favor, but the opp played well and could have pulled it off.

As usual, a stupid block of Scorpicores decided it. I had to keep going around it, a couple of Hives on the main are placed awkwardly, so I didn't go towards the block at all on week 1. And yet I should have. Later, through the scouting, a Dragon Utopia and +4 speed were revealed! I was faced with a dilemma: either get stuck for a couple of days but take the Dragon Utopia and speed, or go to ГO, grab the Elixir along the way and take a certain thing at the entrance to the treasure zone. I chose the second. ГO with 23 greenies with a huge stack fell quite easily, luckily I tried for the Elixir. The very next turn was already contact, Dessa with stats and a Wyvern stack, Tazar has only 17 Wyverns, 3 angels and some smallfry, but on that same turn I pulled out Brissa, level 30, gave her that certain thing, because Tazar had barely any mana. I probably should have gone into battle with Brissa with all the firepower, unclear why I split the artifacts. In the final fight, Tazar fought decently with the Shield's support, but couldn't stand against such a difference. Magic could have decided it, but I forgot about the Shackles of War, and was punished for that.
Thanks for the game.
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11.02.12 Messiah (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Gunnar) def Shamys (Red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska), 143, SOD
In the tavern, Gunnar and Crag Hack are present; under the city, there's a stable, but one direction is blocked by Orcish chieftains guarding a lair. I decided to play, and it was worth it; on day 2, I found an outer dragon lair.
113 +1 dragon and another +1 from the portal.
114-116, I find 3 more outer minotaur lairs, 1 medusa lair, and 1 harpy lair; I take them all and capture the lair behind the Orcs, which gives +6 vipers.
117, behind the lair, there's another +1 dragon. Pandor's lair +30 harpies. Resources are scarce; I really wanted minotaurs, but I didn't have time.
121, I'm standing at the Guardian of Order with 5 dragons and can't decide, because there are 100+ undead liches or 50+ cyclops kings. I turn back towards Pandor's lair, and it's empty).
I level up, double my mana, gather money, build up my army, and attack the liches (7 stacks of 20 each) on day 123; losses are 2 dragons, half the minotaurs, all the troglodytes, and a few harpies. There's almost nothing left to move forward with, but I have a lot of mana, slow, and harpies. In a day, I reach the central Rampart, passing 3 dungeons. No lairs..
124, Pandor's lair +10 horses as a lifesaver, and I rush with joy towards the Book of Earth. The book is mine! And behind it, a teapot). Now everything is easy; I can go into Utopia.
At the beginning, Valeska came out with a formidable army. I had already managed to gather most of what I needed. Gunnar was moving quickly and could have "caught Valeska and the scouting party with their army on the move," but I couldn't bring myself to do it. Besides, my opponent gave me an autosave at a difficult moment (not a loss) :smile20:.
We played for another week, and then came the finale:
At the beginning, the vipers resisted the explosion, which could have changed the course of the battle, but it didn't happen.
Thank you for the game!
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11.02.2012 Katherine (blue, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) def Antoshkin (red, Rampart, Kyrre, Alkin) Jebus Cross 224
In the tavern, Bron with 6 Master Grendels, a Scroll of Knowledge, a Candle, Cloak of Velocity, 2 Dragon Utopias, end of week 1 - 123456 in the castle. On the second week, I gather components for the Elixir of Life :cool: a couple of Dragon Fly Hives and run to the center with 34 upgraded Wyverns. Only boxes there, nothing visible in pairs, after gathering more Wyverns, I send the scout hero to take the home Dragon Utopia while Taz replenishes mana (got a level 5 hat). There was a bugged passage to the neighboring respawn, I decide to use it, break through the GO and immediately a Griffin Conservatory (2). I take a village there, a couple of Dragon Utopias (+6 and +4 to all stats) and Griffin Conservatories (level 2). Then I run around searching for a Town Portal (built level 4 in 3 castles - nothing), while the opponent was somewhere up top clearing the treasure zone. I fly over and take his capital. Finally the scout hero stumbles upon the KZ, I fly there immediately, simultaneously breaking through the GO to the remaining respawn. While collecting the opponent's 2-week growth, I head to the last respawn, take a Griffin Conservatory (3) there, a village, notice 3 Dragon Fly Hives and an angel external dwelling. 224 means surrender. Thanks for the game.
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Can I vent a little? The game hasn’t been played yet, but damn, I can’t keep cursing to myself anymore... ГО behemoths... 40 of them!!! :smile07: FORTY!!!! hoooooow???? what the f***??? usually around 22-28, but here it’s forty!!! and I have no oil... how they’ve spread me out... Yesterday I nearly broke my keyboard with my jaw dropping when I saw how many there were.
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If you calculate the number of behemoths per gold in the Grand Order, you'll see that it's a perfectly reasonable amount. 22-28 is more suitable for ghost dragons. In the last party, for example, there were 25 angels in the Grand Order (whose value is noticeably higher than that of behemoths).
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02/11/12 Messiah (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Gunnar) def Shamys (Red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska), 143, SOD
In the tavern, Gunnar and Crag Hack are present; under the city, there's a stable, but one direction is blocked by Orcish chieftains guarding a lair. I decided to play, and it was worth it; on day 2, I found an outer dragon lair.
113 +1 dragon and another +1 from the portal.
114-116, I find 3 more outer minotaur lairs, 1 medusa lair, and 1 harpy lair. I claim them all and take the lair behind the Orcs; there's +6 vipers.
117, behind the lair, I find another +1 dragon. Pandor's lair +30 harpies. Resources are scarce; I really wanted minotaurs, but I didn't have time.
121, I'm standing at the Guardian of the Oasis with 5 dragons and can't decide because there are 100+ undead liches or 50+ cyclops kings. I turn back towards Pandor's lair, and it's empty).
I level up, double my mana, gather money, build up my army, and attack the liches (7 stacks of 20) on day 123. Losses: 2 dragons, half the minotaurs, all the troglodytes, and a few harpies. There's almost nothing left to move forward with, but I have a lot of mana, slow, and harpies. In a day, I reach the central Rampart, passing 3 dungeons. No lairs..
124, Pandor's lair +10 horses as a lifesaver, and I rush with joy towards the Earth book. The book is mine! And behind it, a teapot). Now, nothing matters; I can go to Utopia.
At the beginning, Valeska appeared with an impressive army. I had already managed to gather the main forces. Gunnar was moving quickly and could have "caught Valeska and the scouting party with their army on the move," but I couldn't bring myself to do it. Moreover, my opponent gave me an autosave at a difficult moment (not a loss) :smile20: .
We played for another week, and then came the finale:
At the beginning, the vipers resisted the explosion, which could have turned the tide of the battle, but it didn't happen.
Thank you for the game!

You're welcome, and thank you too
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Let me vent a little? The game hasn't been played yet, but damn, I can't even curse to myself anymore... ГО behemoths... 40 of them!!! :smile07: FORTY!!!! how???? what the f..??? usually around 22-28, but here it's forty!!! and I'm without oil... how they spread me out... Yesterday I almost broke my keyboard with my jaw dropping when I saw how many there were.
Well, 40 is a normal number for them. If you're too lazy to calculate how many of each there will be, do it simpler. Create about 100-200 Jebuses in the map editor and see how many of each appears. You can even see the approximate range if you have enough patience :)
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Well, 40 is a common number for them. If you're too lazy to calculate how many of each there will be, just do it the easy way. Create 100-200 Jebus creatures in the map editor and see how many of each appear. You can even get an approximate range if you have the patience.

I've already counted... and it turns out to be 40. I had a double Gold Order, the first wave had 26 Hydras, I killed them without even noticing, and then I thought there were no more than 30 Behemoths. But there were... a whole bunch of them. Oh well, I'll hope my opponent has it even worse :)
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11.02.2012 Katherine (blue, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) def Antoshkin (red, Rampart, Kyrr, Alkin) Jebus Cross 224
In the tavern, Bron with 6 Master Gremlins, a scouting telescope, a cape of speed, 2 Dragon Utopias, end of week 1 - 123456 in the Castle. On the second, I collect the elixir of life components :cool: a couple of Hives and rush to the center with 34 upgraded Wights. There are only boxes there, nothing visible on the pairs; after gathering more Wights, I send a secondary to take the home Dragon Utopia while Taz replenishes mana (got the hat level 5). There was a bugged passage to the adjacent respawn, I decide to use it, break through ГО and immediately Cons (2). There I take a village, a couple of Dragon Utopias (+6 and 4 to all) and Cons (twos). Then I ran around looking for a town portal, (built level 4 in 3 castles - none) while the opponent was somewhere up top clearing the treasure zone; I flew in and took his capital. Finally the secondary stumbles upon КЗ, I fly there immediately, simultaneously breaking through ГО to the remaining respawn. Taking the opponent's 2-week growth, I head to the last respawn, grab Cons (3) there, a village, spot 3 shrines and an external dwelling of Angels. 224 follows the surrender. Thanks for the game.
Confirmed. It was a good game from the opponent's side. We finished playing at 8 AM. Too bad there was never a finale.
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10.02.2012 Mizrael(red, Dungeon, Shakti, Gundula) def Wishmaster(blue, Fortress, Wystan, Wystan) 147
That happened to me too. I decided not to re-take the slow routes – I was tempted by two nests that were revealed on the first day, an external dwelling of Gorgons, and a Dragon Utopia (later, I found two more). But overall, the rewards from the external dwellings weren't great, except for the Gorgons – one Lizardman camp and about ten Gnolls, which I lost miserably. The main joy of the game came from getting 80 Lizardmen at the first Pandora’s Box location. I ventured into the center at level 127, and only started attacking the Dragon Utopias starting from level 132. I found three Tomes of Magic, but my magic stats were weak compared to Gundula. By the beginning of the fourth week, I had gathered a horde of Vivacs, got the Red Orb, drove Gundula out of the center, and became bolder, venturing towards my opponent's respawn point, where, before reaching his capital, I was punished.
Thanks for the game!
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Gondza and Magl, please upload the save files from your game against herolwy.

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