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Posts from Haven – "Everything is mixed up, truth and falsehood" [Campaign 3 – Mission 2]

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In reply to Heleg
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I want to share my impressions about this map. At the beginning, I kill all the neutrals and collect all the resources. I capture George's castle. Then I go underground, defeat the fort and the hero inside, and eliminate the neutrals, collecting all the resources. After that, I cross the river and capture a neutral castle, then proceed to attack one of the barons. It seems to me that the barons don't move until you cross the river; there's probably some kind of script involved. Did anyone else experience this?
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Most likely, that’s how it is, although in my opinion, there’s no point in going to the Dungeon after capturing the first Castle. I immediately captured the second Castle, and then the third, and the army started to grow at a good pace. I defended against the Barons using portals. After clearing everything on the surface and waiting a couple of weeks, I went down to the Dungeon and completed the mission. Before attacking George, I attacked his supporting hero several times, with whom he shared part of his army after resurrection, thereby reducing his own. I played on normal difficulty.
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I probably have the most idiotic question. I've "killed everyone, only one remains" a long time ago. But in "Quests," the active objective is "Eliminate George." And the mission doesn't end. Although I've beaten that George, and I remember doing it more than once. What should I do? Where should I look for him – there isn't a single hero on the map, neither above nor below ground.

P.S. I found the hidden house, captured the Necropolis castle underground – George wasn't there.

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Hey, is anyone alive?
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I probably have the most idiotic question. I've already "killed everyone, only one remains." But in "Quests," the active objective is "Eliminate George." And the mission doesn't end. Although I've beaten that George, and I remember doing it more than once. What should I do? Where should I look for him – there isn't a single hero on the map, neither above nor below ground.

P.S. I found the hidden house, captured the necromantic castle underground – George wasn't there.

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Hello, is anyone alive?
There are people alive. But what can we tell you? :) Besides the classic "It's a bug, replay," of course.
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Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
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I don't remember anything else to add; as far as I recall, George was in the Necropolis castle underground. Why he wasn't there, Ash knows:confused:
In reply to Heleg
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I replayed it. Everything worked out.
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In my opinion, the mission isn't difficult, although I'm playing on normal difficulty. I played it like this: first, I captured George's Castle (right at the end of the first week, his army was "small"). Then, I followed the path to the northwest – there was a neutral Castle, and I captured it at the beginning of the second week. I started developing both Castles – there was a shortage of crystals, but it didn't matter; by the end of the game, I had so many resources that I didn't know what to do with them. Then, "Rosalia" came, and I lost one of my Castles because I didn't manage to reach it in time. After that, I retook the Castle with minor losses, waited for reinforcements, and headed towards the bridges. I went along the one on the left and captured the Castle of one of the Barons – a lady (I don't remember her name, but it was something like Irida). I started developing this Castle as well. After that, no one bothered me anymore. I developed three Castles and went to the second Baron, who was located on the bridge to the north (his name starts with the letter G). I captured his Castle. And if you go north from Irida's Castle through the obelisks, you'll find the Castle of their helper – Cordelia, another formidable lady. Igor's Castle (the only name I remember :) is located in the upper right corner of the map, but I stormed it last because he had a strong army. I gathered reinforcements for about two weeks from all four Castles – this added to my already considerable army. After defeating the three Barons, I went to find the artifact as part of the quest (it's located not far from Cordelia's Castle – southeast of it, and it's guarded by angels; I had 90 of them). Then, I went through the portal to the Dungeon, defeated all the elemental representatives, reached Kirill, talked to him, and killed him. After that, a portal opened for me, and I went through it and found myself in the Dungeon (the exit from it is located near the first Castle that I captured from George). I wandered around the Dungeon, subdued two necromantic heroes and George along with them. He had a "strong" army. In conclusion, I want to say that it's important to develop portals so that you can quickly move around, and the "Guardian Angel" building is very useful for resurrecting riders and seraphs. It's a very convenient thing.
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I'm playing on Hard difficulty, but I read about the HARDEST difficulty here. I'm curious, where is it set? Also, I didn't know that ballistae don't target their own defenders. In the previous mission, I had them standing in an open field for the entire game; now I'll make sure to protect them. Yes, this mission is challenging. It's the end of the third week, and I'm avoiding neutral creatures because it's very rare to win without any losses. I'm severely lacking wood for building and upgrading, so I've been specifically searching for piles of logs to build something at least every other day. I have a town of George and a Dungeon fort in the northwest. I'll manage to build Riders, and Paladins will be available next week. On Monday, I'll buy everyone, luckily I built a Capitol initially, and then I'll go across the river. Maybe I'll choose the hero path after all; I have 250 points in both Tears and Blood skills. I was thinking of going with Blood, but now I'm leaning more towards Tears. Overall, I enjoyed the map's difficulty. After the previous missions, I thought I was a superhero, but now I have to really think. But it's interesting. I finally completed this map. You can't just rush to take cities and defeat everyone in sight; the enemies are too tough. Sometimes, instead of capturing a fort, I would place one of my second hero's dwellings there, and they would stay there until the end of the game. In general, I gradually expanded my territory, attacked the barons' towns, and eventually captured all their dwellings. Then, I went to Cordelia, where I could upgrade Paladins. Then, I went south, through the Cyclops, to Cyril, and then, through the spirit portal to the Catacombs to George. It took about 3-4 months, and somewhere around the 3rd month, I was able to breathe a sigh of relief and knew I was going to win. Yes, the siege book doesn't give a +1 damage bonus to catapults.
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In reply to Элементаль Бога
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Everything got mixed up – people, horses… :) The mission is pretty good. The most important thing is to quickly capture the first two castles, and then, skillfully using the portals, step by step, defeat the barons. There was a moment when quite strong heroes approached my three castles at once – the portals were very helpful. On the way to Cyril with the elementals, there were no problems at all; by that time, my army was already in the thousands, and there were only 50 elementals.
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I'm currently playing on easy difficulty. I'm just enjoying the game. The enemy armies are large (I can't imagine what it's like on a harder difficulty), but I managed to capture some red barons; their forces were small, but I won, although I lost my entire army in the process. I don't feel like replaying, so I'm hoping to win by leveling up my heroes. There's one red faction left, and I haven't reached the sleeping castle yet.
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Here's a question.
I don't know, maybe they'll explain it later, but still...

How do we encounter Kirill in this campaign?
Isn't he somewhere deep in Inferno?
And why didn't they even talk before the battle, like brothers?
And if I defeated him, how will he participate in the following Inferno missions (although Anton could have left him alive, but he killed the others, it seems, if they need to be resurrected on the altar later)?
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Actually, they are communicating. But this isn't Kirill; it's more like his... shadow, created by Kate for testing purposes.
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Guys, help me out... I've already read all your advice, but nothing helps... I've been trying this mission for half a year, if not more... I've even tried it on easy mode, but nothing works... Can you explain in more detail how to do it? Please... Thanks in advance)):smile45: I've captured all 3 or 4 castles on the surface, and only Igor's castle remains... He has a pretty strong army... I can't defeat him... My army grows 5 times slower than his in a week... What should I do? How can I win?
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MaRiNkA
People, help me... I've already read all your advice, but nothing helps... I've been trying this mission for half a year, if not more... I've even tried it on easy mode, but nothing works... Can you describe in more detail how...? Please... Thanks in advance)):smile45: I've captured all 3 or 4 castles on the surface, and only one castle belonging to Igor remains... he has a pretty strong army... I can't defeat him... my army grows 5 times slower than his in a week... What should I do? How can I defeat him?
There are only six castles on the surface, and Igor's castle is, if I remember correctly, "Fortress" in the upper right corner? I went there last, and by that time my army from five castles had completely destroyed it. But still, it's strange: even if you only have three castles, the growth should at least be equal, and if you have all five castles, it should definitely be more than the enemy's. In this mission, the Altars of Resurrection built in the castles are very helpful.
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Yes, play through the entire game using only cavalry, with reinforcements. Resurrect units at altars. Don't spend money on other units. By the way, remind me, does this map have dwellings for elite creatures?

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