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14 years ago
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Yes, there's actually a very fine line here. If you had written it without capitalization and the word "probably," I most likely wouldn't have understood the point.
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14 years ago
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Message from ToX
if I'm Mafia, why are you exposing me?
This is just insane. I almost covered my face with my hand when I saw it. Actually, ToX revealed himself in a completely unbelievable way on the first day, and this "N D" on the blocked Nera – he had no chance. But I hope this gave me and the others some protection from suspicion.
On the last day, when Zybr was executed, it was a necessary evil. If you hadn't been targeting me, we would have tried to execute Lynx, who would have gotten a modkill anyway the next day, or Calypso as a maniac. But when a whole bunch of other people's evidence was dug up against me, and I sincerely believe that it doesn't fit very well, I had to parry and bring to an end what I started on the second day. Namely, to condemn Zybr's behavior and tirelessly convince everyone about the additional evidence that perfectly fits him, including the fingerprint that I myself planted. The blunder with Nera also played into my hands. Honestly, if I were a Townie and didn't know for sure that you were good, I would have voted against you with a high probability. And indeed, Archik's vote wouldn't have decided anything here.

I want to say about myself that playing as Mafia is the worst thing that has happened to me. During the day, I have to squirm like a rat, and at night I have to plan bad things. But at least I got my revenge for that miserable loss in the Yakuza game.
And tell the Creator that I found a bug in the section. It kept throwing blockers at me, which I don't like. However, during the game, I didn't kill or block anyone, and if Zybr hadn't messed up, I might not have gotten my hands dirty at all.
Redirection is overpowered. Even despite the presence of four worlds without ND. The lack of notes also makes it noticeably more difficult for the Town.
I liked the team – they're good guys, it was nice to discuss and plan. However, I didn't like the constant rush. As soon as the day starts, discussions about the next move begin. I had to constantly slow things down to think properly. And ToX, who doesn't care anymore, was just adding fuel to the fire. :)
In general, this game helped me better understand the thought processes of the Mafia.



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Yeah, and we redirected you anyway.
No. At the last moment, I secretly changed the moves because I thought it through.
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14 years ago
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Congrats, guys. Great game; essentially, once we figured out who the main threat was, we had the key and could control the flow of the game as we wanted. I think that was the main reason for our victory. It could have gone very differently otherwise.

+ I really enjoyed playing as a team; everyone was active, constantly discussing things on Skype, making plans, etc. It was very interesting.

Once again, congratulations to us! Everyone gets a piece of cake; you all did great!
p/s Hosse also gets a piece for organizing

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14 years ago
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Who was the Man?
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14 years ago
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neira, haha)))
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14 years ago
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It's a shame, though, that there was no description of Calypso's assassination. It just says that the first attempt failed, and now the sniper has returned to finish the job. By the way, this is the second game in a row where the role of the sniper has been assigned.
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14 years ago
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You guys are mean. Where is your hospitality?)) You decided to kill Calypso... Horrible.
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14 years ago
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Overall, I enjoyed the Calypso game. It's quite rare for a newcomer to show such activity here, and even rarer for them to try to solve the clues.
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14 years ago
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Overall, I enjoyed the Calypso game. It's quite rare for a newcomer to show such activity here, and even rarer to try and solve the clues.
I agree.

Thank you all for the game.
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14 years ago
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To be honest, if I were a townie and didn't know for sure that you were good, I would probably vote against you.
Yeah, after the Nera incident, I would probably have voted for myself too)) Who knows))
Actually, what surprised me most was these attacks on her. That Nera started pressuring based on flimsy evidence, and even using false information. She didn't check all the facts and ended up getting blocked.
But honestly, she didn't really dig deep to find the real killer. She labeled him as either a maniac or a townie. Not a Mafia member, in any case.
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14 years ago
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Logik


Role List:

1. Morning - Kenny Leonedi
2. Deliries - Blev Zombie
3. Amko - same-doctor Zombie
4. Zybr - Vedr Zombie
5. Arandor - Captain Zombie
6. Carnicero - Red Chrisfield
7. Reinhard - Reda Clairefield
8. Kits Kitsunka - Zombie-Spider
9. Nebo - Nuisance Zombie
10. ToX - Vona Adg
11. maskharah - Kleptomaniac Zombie
12. Spear - YOBA Milovich
13. WisTrit - Brain-picker Zombie
14. Neyra Drake - Alvesk Berter
15. Kalipso - Cubehead Zombie
16. L.Depravado - Longnose Zombie
17. Thorium - Arnold Zombie
18. WishmasteR - Valya Jillentine

Night 1
1. Blocks Nuisance Zombie - Neyra's block.
3. Checks Longnose Zombie - Thorium' same-check (normal).
4. Checks Reda Clairefield - Wishmaster's check (stinks).
5. Redirects ND Valya Jillentine - Neyra's ND redirect to Neyra.
6. Protects Arnold Zombie - WisTrit's protection.
8. Compares Captain Zombie - Arandor and Maskhara comparison (same).
9. Watches Zombie-Spider - watching Morning.
10. Silences Blev Zombie - Kits Kitsunka's silencing.
11. Kills Vona Adg - Nebo's kill.
12. Kills Cubehead Zombie - skip turn.
19. Heals same-doctor Zombie - healing Reinhard.
20. Steals Kleptomaniac Zombie - stealing from Kits Kitsunka.
21. Infects with virus Alvesk Berter - infects Morning (failure). Status - stinks.

Mafia kill.
CLUE
Next to the body of the killed dead-one, the killer drew a sign for the nuclear disarmament movement.
Nuclear disarmament movement sign = pacifist = peace symbol.
Sunflower on ToX's avatar = peace symbol.

The clue is simple, but multifaceted. Alas, it brought no benefit to the mafia players.
hint at the victim's role
Sounds of gunshots rang out in the direction where the madman fled.
Now a joker
hint at the killer's role
an uzi magazine
easter egg for oldfags
excessively holey skull
easter egg for Jackson fans
a lover of MJ-style walking

ToX executed - Ada Wong.

Night 2
3. Checks Longnose Zombie - Kalipso check (stinks).
4. Checks Reda Clairefield - Neyra check (stinks).
5. Redirects ND Valya Jillentine - Amko's ND redirect to WisTrit.
7. Protects Arnold Zombie by location - protecting Morning.
8. Compares Captain Zombie - Maskhara and Thorium comparison (different).
9. Watches Zombie-Spider - watching WisTrit.
10. Silences Blev Zombie - silencing Wishmaster.
12. Kills Cubehead Zombie - killing Thorium.
13. Kills Alvesk Berter - killing Maskhara. Status - stinks.
15. Kills YOBA Milovich - killing Neyra (unsuccessful)
19. Heals same-doctor Zombie - heals self.

Kill by Cubehead.
CLUE
remained shrouded in darkness
This phrase is linked to "secret" many times.
The name "Kalipso" in ancient Greek mythology means "she who conceals".

Also a simple clue, even though I tried to blur the connection slightly. Didn't really work. Kalipso, sorry.
hint at the victim's role
Morning's pursuer
No matter how cool and muscular he was
hint at the killer's role
a huge blade instantly cut off Thorium's head

Maniac kill.
CLUE
radiant delta
"Radiant delta" - a symbol of Freemasonry.
"Le Trublion" in Neyra's profile - one of the songs in the opera about Mozart. Mozart was an ardent Mason.
hint at the victim's role
the nimble and quite agile Maskhara. Several other people's wallets were found in her pockets
hint at the killer's role
The bullet entered the forehead neatly
description of mafia fail

NNV.

Night 3
3. Checks Longnose Zombie - Morning check (normal).
5. Redirects ND Valya Jillentine - Neyra's ND redirect to Amko.
8. Compares Captain Zombie - Kalipso and Spear comparison (different).
9. Watches Zombie-Spider - watching Kalipso.
10. Silences Blev Zombie - silencing Reinhard.
12. Kills Cubehead Zombie - killing Spear.
17. Kills Reda Clairefield - killing Kalipso.
19. Heals same-doctor Zombie - healing Morning.
21. Infects with virus Alvesk Berter - infects Amko. Status - stinks.

Kill by Cubehead.
CLUE
in honor of internet day
Internet Day is April 4th.
Kalipso (Lat. Kalypso) — a large asteroid of the Main Asteroid Belt, discovered on April 4, 1858
hint at the victim's role
Spear, playing with his knives, walked calmly down the corridor
hint at the killer's role
a huge sword fell on him
cut Spear in half

Mafia kill.
CLUE
"Code of the Ideal Warrior"
"Code of the Ideal Warrior" = Bushido Code.
"I should stop expecting so much" in Reinhard's profile - a phrase by samurai Mitsunari Ishida from the Samurai Warriors game series.

Googleable immediately.
PLANTED CLUE
a sole print with a strange cross
Cross, church, Cardinal Reinhard Marx.

Left the word "strange", because an annoyed Reinhard said it could be linked to the Third Reich.
hint at the victim's role
constructed a shield from something like a web
hint at the killer's role
in his lair is a sniper

NNV

Night 4
3. Checks Longnose Zombie - WisTrit check (normal).
5. Redirects ND Valya Jillentine - Kalipso's ND redirect to Amko.
8. Compares Captain Zombie - Kalipso and Morning comparison (different).
10. Silences Blev Zombie -
12. Kills Cubehead Zombie - killing Arandor.
17. Kills Reda Clairefield - killing WisTrit.
19. Heals same-doctor Zombie - healing WisTrit (failure)
21. Infects with virus Alvesk Berter - infects Arandor. Status - stinks.

Mafia kill.
CLUE
a book with an epic poem
"Epic poem" = "Nibelungenlied"
"Brunhild" in Reinhard's profile - Brunhild, one of the main characters of the epic.
hint at the victim's role
Presence of quite fresh muscles
not-yet-rotted brains
hint at the killer's role
a shot rang out in the distance
image of a newspaper

Kill by Cubehead.
CLUE
an anomalous artifact
"Anomalous artifact" - a reference to the novella "Roadside Picnic" by the Strugatsky brothers.
The phrase in Kalipso's signature - from the novella "Roadside Picnic" by the Strugatsky brothers.
hint at the victim's role
preparing to take another slime bath there
hint at the killer's role
the steel of a huge blade pierced through

Zybr executed - Vedr Zombie.

Night 5
3. Checks Longnose Zombie -
5. Redirects ND Valya Jillentine - Neyra's ND redirect to Deliries.
8. Compares Captain Zombie - Morning and Wishmaster comparison (different).
10. Silences Blev Zombie - silencing Reinhard.
12. Kills Cubehead Zombie - killing Arandor.
17. Kills Reda Clairefield - killing Kalipso.
Alvesk Berter is inactive. Status - stinks.

Modkill L.Depravado.

Mafia majority, victory.

A few words on GMing:
1. I made the newspapers as clear as possible, sacrificing descriptions and other techniques. It's not great when players can't decipher ND — they won't even get to the clues then. Each action is a separate paragraph. The nickname is highlighted. The clue is stated precisely, not lost in the text. I could have written it better, but that was already the line where players might be exposed.

2. I gave the clues themselves in an attempt to bring back the old-school theme. Like Vegtam's in games 9 or 12. Without sheets of clue chains and illogical associations. Everything is quite clear and rational. Multifaceted, yes. Overall okay.

3. There were no notes because they partially or entirely kill the roleplay for many. Personally, I believe so. The role should work during the day too. And with the head.

4. Most of all, I'm dissatisfied that I introduced redirection into the game. I realized during the first night that I had created a very strong mafia. But it can't be fixed now — therefore, a fail.

On the game:
I didn't like the town's activity. Two and a half people played. Even Kalipso wrote slightly less toward the end, WisTrit was killed quickly, and Zybr only opposed accusations. The others weren't very noticeable. With things as they are, it's no surprise that the mafia won.
Although, I don't know how it is in private, but Morning carried everyone in the thread. Only because of him is the mafia victory not purely ND-based.

In short, a mediocre game.
Well done WisTrit, who essentially justified his role and insisted on ToX's execution. Seriously, I'm very pleased. I even want to apologize for old attacks.
ToX's execution was pleasing overall. ToX completely exposed himself. The team didn't pull him out. Berber on a blocked player... kind of cruel. The vagueness of ToX's excuses is similar to the vagueness of Thorium's ideas. Even if it's a minus for the town, he died deservedly — spamming associative versions and leading them nowhere is not an A-grade way to play.
Morning well done. I know he doesn't like being mafia, but this time it turned out great. Led the team to victory.
And Kalipso pleased me too. Even if she was wrong, she was active and tried to figure things out. That's okay.

That is all.
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14 years ago
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That was fun. Thanks to everyone for the game, and congratulations to the winning team; it was interesting. Once again, I wasn't able to be very active while playing as a Mafia member – I was even surprised that no one suspected me because I didn't write much. :)
By the way, we saw the second clue about Calypso a little differently: April 4th is the birthday of Tarkovsky, the director of the film "Stalker," which was based on "Roadside Picnic."
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14 years ago
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Overall, I enjoyed the game. I was disappointed by the inactivity and passivity of some players, as well as Arandor's behavior. Zubr, I apologize, but you really raised suspicions with your behavior; you acted like Tox, so I simply had no other choice. Mafia got incredibly lucky that the blocker managed to block the killer just as the Mafia were about to switch the killer. Seriously, I don't want to offend anyone, but a lot here was decided by chance. I liked Morning's game; he didn't raise any suspicions, and in fact, he only inspired trust. That's probably why, in the end, I chose to eliminate Zubr with my barbarian and because of his behavior, rather than Loken, for whom the evidence was even worse. I'll just say that from day one, I didn't have a chance, and that I shouldn't be carrying the town with a killing role. Thanks to everyone, I'm out. P.S.: Hossi did a great job as the GM; the clues were good, and the descriptions were also fine, so you're an excellent GM.

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Yes, congratulations to the Mafia; you still deserved the win.

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Yes, Calypso, I apologize for the attacks in the middle of the game; I just didn't want the town to execute me, so it was in my best interest to try to portray you as the killer. I didn't really want to be so rude. Although, it's really funny when the killer frames a town member.
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14 years ago
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I don't hold any grudges against anyone. I don't fully understand why the game didn't work out as planned. But it definitely didn't work out for the town. And it's not Hostor's fault. He was excellent as the Game Master. The clues were quite complex and ambiguous. Freemasonry was assigned to Nereus, but it worked wonderfully for me with Reinhardt. He also could have been a good target. I've already mentioned that this is only the second game with clues that I've played. It was still very difficult for me to understand the meaning of the night phase – who is with whom, where, when, etc. I still haven't fully figured everything out. The only downside, it seems to me, is that the balance was too heavily skewed towards the Mafia. Either the most active players ended up on that team, or playing two games simultaneously didn't allow the "town" to play at full strength. Yes, on the last day, I gave up. I wrote to Kitse, "It feels like I'm left in the game with only Mafia players." Which turned out to be close to the truth. I have very mixed feelings about the game. I haven't drawn any conclusions for myself yet. But thank you all very much for the game. Thank you for not tearing me apart for killing Torii, and even finding words of encouragement. I rate my own game as a 3--.
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14 years ago
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"It feels like I'm left in the game with only mages."
I've had that happen too, haha.

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Well, at least I can now relax knowing I'll never have to waste time searching for clues again.

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