Heroes 6 - Discussion — General

YJMorgan

11/20/2011 3:20 PM UTC

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Remmor

It's strange, I'm playing on normal difficulty, and I only have 2 more demon portals to clear. Nastya has 50 weavers, 80 vampires, and almost a hundred liches. Lyudmila has almost 900 skeletons, 300 ghosts, and ghouls... you're probably lagging at the start + you're suffering big losses.

Read more carefully. Somewhere around the first month, I had a week in the description that said the creature growth in castles was reduced threefold. But in the calculations, there seems to have been a glitch, and everything went into the negative. I even checked specifically: I have -159374 skeletons, -105190 ghouls, -101924 ghosts, -57316 liches, -76476 lamassus, -70000 vampires, and -25512 weavers.
And Necropolis can't really suffer losses. You could even call it a cheating race.

Devolik

11/20/2011 3:23 PM UTC

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Yes, that can happen. It also happens during a plague; the troops go into negative numbers. This is a bug that they should fix as soon as possible.

Андартан

11/20/2011 3:57 PM UTC

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that's a bug that they should fix as soon as possible.

I'm already starting to think that they won't release any new patch, although such bugs as griffins not being able to fly are a disaster.

YJMorgan

11/20/2011 4:46 PM UTC

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I have another question – why can ghosts and liches not attack Dark Elementals? Is this a bug, or is it intentional? And if it’s intentional, where can I read about it? Because there’s nothing about it in the manual.

Андартан

11/20/2011 5:13 PM UTC

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I have another question – why can ghosts and liches not attack dark elementals? Is this a bug, or is it intentional? And if it's intentional, where can I read about it? There's no mention of it in the manual.

I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but both seem to have a magic attack that uses darkness, and darkness doesn't affect these elementals.

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Klivren

11/20/2011 5:30 PM UTC

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Andartan

I'm already thinking that they won't release any new patch, although such bugs as griffins not being able to fly are a disaster.

Patches are simply necessary; I'm only familiar with Black Hall from Heroes 6, but Ubisoft shouldn't disappoint fans to such an extent.

Аксиома Коула: Общая сумма разума на планете - величина постоянная, а население растет...
Асха все обращает на пользу... :smile16:

Андартан

11/20/2011 8:01 PM UTC

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Patches are definitely needed; I'm only familiar with Black Hole from Heroes 6, but Ubisoft shouldn't disappoint fans that much.

They will be released, but not soon.

Devolik

11/20/2011 11:04 PM UTC

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I'm betting that they'll release a patch within a week. It's about time.

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Taimer

11/21/2011 5:51 AM UTC

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Devolik

I'm betting that they'll release a patch within a week. It's about time.

At least a week, in my opinion. There are too many bugs, and some of them overlap. It's difficult to fix these problems without affecting something else.

Победитель

11/21/2011 6:31 AM UTC

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Yes, they are delaying the release of the patch. However, they deserve praise for 1.1.1 – it was released promptly and was beneficial :).

Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

Андартан

11/21/2011 11:05 AM UTC

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I'm placing my bet for a week.

18 days – that’s my bet.

StarSpawn

11/21/2011 1:18 PM UTC

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Winner

It's tough to play as the Tide Lord against the Necropolis faction :(. Two losses. I need to think about what to do in the Tournaments – I'm sure almost everyone will choose heroes from the Necropolis.

:smile15: The Alliance will crush everyone... and Necromancers are chosen because of the bug with Sacrifice :) But, to be objective, you have to be incredibly unskilled to lose a duel with the Alliance, which I can't even imagine.

Fortunately, I have something to be proud of; I won against a very good opponent playing as Sanctuary, and he was playing as the Alliance... the second one I faced, I was playing as Orcs, and I also did well against him, but unfortunately, a mutual disconnect ruined his chances of winning, but I was losing there because there's no counter to the Breaker... the Alliance ability is too overpowered on the Far Bridge, as is the Necromancer ability, so it's very difficult to play with the other factions there.

P.S.
I've already written that you shouldn't hold Tournaments until there are so many bugs in the game, because the balance between factions and abilities is very different. A priori, it's impossible to beat the Alliance, because they effectively get -55% incoming damage from the start, while also having 2 overpowered units; the Necromancers get immortality for 2 turns, so decide for yourselves whether you want fair play and good skill, or defective bug users who confidently defeat truly skilled players.

For now, in online games, everyone I've played against is asking for another duel specifically against these factions, because I've managed to prove that the overpowered ability doesn't always win.

Zybr

11/21/2011 2:09 PM UTC

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O_O Why don't you just play Warcraft? I don't even know...

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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Devolik

11/21/2011 4:46 PM UTC

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Well, I agreed to participate in the tournament just for fun. I lost, and that’s okay. I knew beforehand about the cheaters from the Haven faction, but a game is a game. The good thing is that it will be easier next time after the update, because now I know the specific strengths of each faction and have experienced them firsthand. It will be easier to understand the changes when you know what it was like before.

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StarSpawn

11/21/2011 5:31 PM UTC

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Devolik

Well, I agreed to participate in the tournament just for fun. I lost, and that's okay. I knew about the cheaters from the Haven faction beforehand, but a game is a game.

What's the point of playing like that, knowing you're outmatched? It's like pitting Pacquiao against Klitschko or a schoolkid against a special forces fighter in a sparring match. If you're going to play, it should be under equal conditions, not when your opponent has so many advantages!

Devolik

The good thing is that it will be easier in the next update because, knowing the specific strengths of each faction and having experienced them firsthand, it will be easier to understand the changes. It's easier to figure things out when you know what it was like before.

It might be easier, but I'm not sure if they'll nerf the Haven faction that much, because there will be a huge outcry from the young "overpowered" players, saying, "How can this be? A demonic hero beat me..." :smile40:

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