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In reply to Цікавий Льоня
15 years ago
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Interesting Lonya
I feel the most sorry for Nikolai. He fought so bravely against the demons, but he died only because the griffin's heart didn't work (and why, who knows?). And Tieru seemed to know about it. Besides, not only was he killed, but they could have just killed him and forgotten about it, but instead, Markal turned him into a Necromancer (Nikolai didn't like that) and forcibly made him a dark warrior.
As I understand it, the griffin's heart didn't work on Agrael because he wasn't a "purebred demon," but had "some dark elf blood" or something like that?:confused:
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15 years ago
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As I understand it, the Griffin's heart didn't affect Agrail because he isn't a "purebred demon," but rather has "mixed dark elf blood" or something like that?:confused:
So, it turns out that one of Agrail's ancestors was a Demon, and his wife (or whoever) was a dark elf – an interesting pairing. How could Tieru have known this? Well, a family history involving a dark elf and a demon would immediately attract attention. At least, that's how I see it. What do you think?
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15 years ago
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Agrail is a Hell Knight. In other words, he's a typical dark elf (although representatives of other races may also exist) transformed by Urgash. That's why he's immune to "antidemonic" attacks.
14 years ago
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Godric. He died too soon.
Besides him, I feel sorry for Biara and Markel.
As for the rest – they deserve what they got.
In reply to djulian13
14 years ago
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Dude, are you sure you haven't mixed things up? You feel sorry for such morally reprehensible characters as Biaru and Markal, but you don't feel sorry for the many good heroes who save the world? What's the point of that?
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14 years ago
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I don't understand why no one wants to vote for Biara. She's the coolest hero in Heroes of Might and Magic V, and she's also cunning.
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14 years ago
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Dude, are you not confusing anything? You feel sorry for such moral scumbags as Biara and Markal, but you don't feel sorry for many good heroes who save the world? What's the point?
There's something about Markal; it would be more interesting if he had survived.
I don't understand why no one wants to vote for Biara? She is the coolest hero in Heroes of Might and Magic V, and she is also cunning.
I don't understand why Biara suddenly became male. But the question of the topic sounds like "Whose death seems the most unfair to you?"; personally, I think that Biara deserved her fate, considering how many other characters she killed...
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14 years ago
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Markel has something special; it would have been more interesting if he had survived.
Markel is cunning, and even expecting his final death, he figured out how to seal his soul in the Ring of Sinners. With Zephyr's help, he could return to Ashan.
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I don't understand why Biara suddenly became male. But the topic question is, "Whose death seems the most unfair to you?"; personally, I think Biara deserved it, considering how many other characters she killed...
Well, Biara just attached herself to everyone. She was in all versions and in different forms. She was Shaday and Saint Isabella. Manipulating everyone in two add-ons is quite something.
But my opinion is Godric. This knight is truly great.
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14 years ago
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Godric truly had to die, as it was logical. Nicolas was usually defeated (it's more a pity about the resurrection than the death!!!). Tieru essentially remained alive. But Arantir, if you consider the ending to be good (because it's the true ending), died for no reason. The most frustrating and absurd death: he wanted to save the world by destroying a potential source of evil, which actually turned out to be kinder than kind.
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14 years ago
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As I understand it, the Griffin's heart didn't affect Agrael because he isn't a "pure-blooded demon," but rather has "mixed dark elf blood" or something like that?:confused:
Agrael was a demon worshiper. To be more precise, he was the archdeacon of a demon-worshipping cult within the Clan of Cruel Hearts. Railag even mentioned in a dialogue with Shadia that he was one of them. And the heart only works, as you correctly noted, on pure-blooded demons.

P.S.: I feel the most sorry for Arantir, as he is my favorite character :(
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14 years ago
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I feel the most sorry for Markel. And also for Ornella. Godric was an insane fanatic who couldn't think about anything other than serving the Empire. When he died, I thought, "Thank God. Now he won't bother us with his pompous speeches." Tieru had already lived a long life (over 400 years). And even after death, he continues to exist as a ghost. So I don't feel sorry for him. Nicholas was a naive idiot (he's somewhat similar to King Cailan from Dragon Age). He was to blame for his own death. He shouldn't have relied on the heart of a Griffin. Alaron and Cyrus are traitors and incompetent rulers, incapable of strategic thinking. The entire Ashan is threatened by a demon invasion, and they refuse to form an alliance with the Empire. And during the 5th Eclipse, they proved themselves to be talentless commanders. If they hadn't been plagued by doubts, Alex wouldn't have died, and Kha-Beleth would have been killed 20 years earlier. IMHO, if you're a bad diplomat and can't fight, don't take the throne, otherwise many of your subjects will face death. The same applies to Kurak. Stupid and arrogant. Before going to war, take the time to assess your strength. Biara was a very interesting character at first, but towards the end, she somehow became dull. She was to blame for her own death. I don't feel sorry for her. Tolgar was also an incompetent king. He couldn't figure out that Red Isabel was Biara. He should have wondered why the Red Queen formed an alliance with him against Wulfstan, Duncan, and other rebels. But I feel the most sorry for Markel. He was just an ordinary astrologer. Yes, he was involved in intrigues, but can you name a single politician who isn't involved in intrigues? And when Fiona died, Godric and Nicholas exiled him from the Empire for almost no reason. Of course, after Nicholas's death, Markel wanted revenge. And since Godric initially accepted him (albeit with great suspicion), it means that Markel hadn't done anything terrible before his exile. Markel, in a way, saved Ashan. If he hadn't intervened in the course of history, what would have happened? Then, in the final mission for the Dark Elves, Railag could have persuaded Isabel to cleanse herself of Kha-Beleth's corruption, perhaps with Zehir or another mage. But during the ceremony, Shadia would have once again turned into Biara and stolen Isabel. The combined forces of humans and dark elves, without the help of elves and mages, would hardly have defeated Kha-Beleth. Because Alaron and Cyrus, whom Markel wouldn't have killed, would have refused to form an alliance. After defeating Railag's and Godric's forces, the demons would have attacked the Griffin Empire again. Could the young King Andrias have resisted their hordes? Could he have persuaded the thick-headed Alaron and Cyrus to form an alliance? Unlikely. The Empire would have fallen. And then the demons would have turned to Irollan and the Silver League and destroyed them. Sareta would have raised Kha-Beleth, and then, after the coming of the Dark Messiah, Ashan would have had no chance. Markel, however, saved Irollan and the Silver League from foolish rulers. If Zehir hadn't killed him, perhaps Markel could have united all of Ashan, gathered a huge undead army, and defeated the demons once and for all. It's unfair that such a remarkable character was killed.
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14 years ago
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I disagree about Kurak (he did calculate his strength, and after his death, his work was brought to completion), but the idea about Markel is interesting! In fact, I also like this character, although not enough to consider him the savior of Ashan).
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14 years ago
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Arantir is a pity; he did so much for Ashan and died (but if you judge it that way, Ornella is the most pitiful – to die to take the Holy Flame = to die in vain, and Arantir would have taken the city even without Ornella). But he would have been defeated anyway.
Tieru, whether alive or dead, is just the same... only the density is different.
Sirius only belongs there.
Godric is old, and it's a pity that he didn't die his own death, but then it would be a pity for Frida.
Alaron, the long-thinking deserter-suicide, refused to be the last to leave the sinking ship.
Nicholas is shy, and this shyness killed him. Well, he died, and everyone forgot about him, but no, they had to resurrect his body and curse his soul.
Kurak is a strong warrior, but he miscalculated his strength. That's why he died.
Biaru is a pity as a good actress, and that's all.
Tolgar is old and senile. That's where he belongs.
And Markel is an ordinary necromancer-intriguer, like Biaru, only law-abiding...
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14 years ago
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Dyrman
if you consider the ending to be good (because it is the true one), he died for no reason.
How is it the "true" one? It seems that all endings are equally canonical so far.

My vote is definitely for Arantir; I feel almost as sorry for Markel. The others, for the most part, don't matter much (except perhaps Ornella). It turns out that I feel the most sorry for the Necromancers, even though dying should be a common occurrence for them;
And the death of some of them was actually quite pleasing - Kurak and Biara.
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14 years ago
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SAF
How can it be called the "true" ending? It seems that all endings are equally canonical so far.

My vote is, of course, for Arantir; I feel almost as sorry for Markel. The others, for the most part, don't evoke much emotion (except perhaps Ornella). It turns out that I feel the most sorry for the Necromancers, although dying should be a common occurrence for them.
And the death of some of them was actually quite pleasing – Kurak and Biara.
In the dark mission, we had a choice regarding the fate of Ashan. And the "true," that is, the canonical, ending is considered to be the good one.
But I feel a little sorry for Biara. She got confused. So much effort was put in... Although demons don't usually feel compassion.

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