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#544
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Thank you, and the same to you!
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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#545
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Hmm... I really don't understand what personal dispute you're talking about... Cash and I didn't even argue... And the fact that one of our posts after your rant (sorry, I can't find other words) caused half the forum to react – that's just ridiculous. We expressed our opposing opinions on the topic of "Tribune" and its further existence on the forum. We did so politely, without resorting to personal attacks or offending each other or other forum members.
As for what we wrote in the private thread – yes, as moderators, we managed to do that. However, I didn't start it. First. Second – everyone had time to express their opinion. You all did. Now, here are the results. You get what you asked for.

If you have any questions, ask, and I'll answer. But if this continues, I'll ask the Creator to delete the thread completely!!!! And after that, you can write a collective petition to remove my moderator powers... That's it.

I wish everyone would use their brains.
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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#546
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I think it's important not only the "type of violation," but also the situation in which this violation occurred. But trolling should be penalized, simply because it is becoming an incredibly common practice. And people feel a sense of impunity.
Yes, the situation is called "They told Zubr the truth." Everything said in relation to you is trolling, and if it's also well-argued, then it's an insult.
And, of course, when unable to answer for their words and actions, they start using arguments like "we have a heroic forum here, so take your mafia and go to the forest!!" and "all complaints should be directed to the creator!!"
The ideal of moderation.
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#547
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Zybr
No one is obligated to explain anything to the user. Read the rules.
That's probably why many receive unjustified scores. Sometimes they just happen to be in the right place, and sometimes they simply don't appeal to someone. That's not good.
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Yes, the situation can be described as "Zubru was told the truth." Everything said about you is trolling, and if it's also well-argued, then it's an insult.
And of course, when unable to answer for your words and actions, you start using arguments like "this is a hero forum, so take your mafia elsewhere!" and "all complaints should be directed to the creator!"
This is the ideal of moderation.
If you can't distinguish trolling, then that's just a reflection of your own shortcomings. I gave a clear example of L.Depravado's trolling, a phrase that was just a sarcastic jab, not an expression of any thoughts.

You can find a dozen similar outbursts from you, WisTrit.
That's probably why many receive unjustified points. Sometimes it's just random, sometimes someone doesn't like them. It's not good.
Don't stir up trouble. Returning to that phrase of yours that I showed you – what was the response? Did you agree? No, you referred to subjectivity. And who among those who received points agrees that they deserved them? That's why the point of explaining to a user where they violated the rules is lost.

Although, I can provide justification for each of my actions. Whether you agree with it or not is subjective, for the reason I mentioned above.
However, I agree that points should be periodically removed. Perhaps moderators should be given the ability to remove them.
More likely, it should be the coordinators, because a moderator should still work within the boundaries of their "domain." And removing points cannot be considered within the context of a single thread. At most, a moderator can give a coordinator advice on how to deal with a particular user.
It's true that what's done is done. In the end, everyone is satisfied, so there's no need to argue.
It seems that in this case, no one is arguing, but rather expressing their opinion.

But the coordinators should move all the off-topic discussions to the "Discussions with Moderators" thread.

P.S.
By the way, you could always ask questions there, like "why did I receive points for this post?" At the very least, it would be the right place to ask them.


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"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#549
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If you can't tell the difference between trolling and something else, then it just reflects poorly on you.
If after this statement someone still considers you a reasonable moderator, then perhaps you should provide links to relevant posts:
OH MY GOD, IT’S TROLLING
/topic/at/508404/
/topic/at/508695/
/topic/at/508112/
/topic/at/508101/
/topic/at/509217/
/topic/at/508173/
/topic/at/508731/
And of course, the highlight of the show, a blatant insult:
/topic/at/508522/

You apparently don't quite understand the meaning of the word "trolling" on the internet; if someone teases or says that someone is wrong, it doesn't mean that everyone suddenly becomes a TROLL and comes to destroy ХВ and humiliate everyone.
You acted inappropriately, were guided by personal motives, personal dislike, and your own sense of self-importance. You were pointed out about this – you started giving points to everyone for trolling and insults.
You also didn’t take responsibility for your words, constantly referring to the Creator.
Double standards, what can you do? Especially considering that there is no less trolling on your part, and most of your actions as a moderator can be characterized as trolling and insults.
And who among those who received points would agree that they deserved them? Thus, the point of explaining to the user where he violated the rules is lost.
It wouldn't be so bad, but you are the one assigning these points unfairly, and EVERYONE agrees with this.
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#550
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WisTrit
If after this statement someone still considers you a reasonable moderator, then perhaps you should provide links to
So, it seems that this was the work of someone, and that someone even confirmed that it was their doing. Or did they do it together?
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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#551
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So it seems like someone was behind this, and that someone even confirmed that they were involved. Or did they do it together?
No. I didn't give you any points.
I don't know why this was brought up.
And of course, the highlight of the show, a blatant insult:
/topic/at/508522/
I reported on fixing this violation to the Creator.
As well as reporting on the Naire violation. That’s all; I didn’t flag anyone else.
You probably don't quite understand the meaning of the word "trolling" on the internet.
The opposition is sending out another S.O.S.!
Amko, don't delete this!
Here is your trolling. A clear, unambiguous attempt to provoke the "opposition."

I will also support Arandor. This whole thing with deleting threads reeks of personal dislike. Who was so bothered by these polls? Why was the thread deleted without even talking about it with Arandor (who is also a moderator, by the way)? At least that's disrespectful. 2-3 people decided that it wasn't according to the rules (although I haven't seen any rule stating: You can't create polls) and they just deleted the topic because they felt like it. This is arbitrary; you still need to show respect for others.
This is for comparison with your comment. L.Depravado's post could only be called trolling if it had been published after the "discussions" were over. In all other cases, it’s a perfectly acceptable and reasonably polite message.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#552
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No. I did not award you any points.
I don't know why this is being cited.
Because you are from the same coalition and you fully support(ed) the decisions of other moderators who are involved in this matter.
I reported the recording of this violation to the Creator.
As well as the recording of Neira's violation. That's all, I didn't assign the rest.
The Creator, naturally, compromised, since the entire HeroesWorld is in his hands. But everyone else sees that YOU ARE WRONG.
As for not assigning the rest – well done, seriously.
Here is your trolling. A clear, unambiguous attempt to provoke the "opposition."
What did I say that was so bad? Simply that the opposition, once again losing ground, is asking the Creator for help. Whoever wants to see a provocation will see one (just as with rudeness).

All the posts there are reasonable and points were awarded for all of them. There is nothing special in my remark.
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#553
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What exactly did I say?
The point is that your words have a very pronounced emotional tone. Partly, it's a form of teasing. It provokes responses of the same type.
I'm not suggesting that you should be penalized for this, I'm just illustrating what I consider to be wrong and explaining exactly why.
Then, you are from the same coalition and you fully support (or supported) the decisions of other moderators who are involved in this matter.
Um, no, I honestly didn't even look at everything for which points were awarded, just a few posts. And then I made a suggestion about why these points were awarded. Nothing more, nothing less.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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The point is that your words have a distinctly emotional tone. Partly, it's a form of teasing. It provokes responses of the same type.
I'm not suggesting you should be rewarded for this, I'm simply illustrating what I consider to be wrong and explaining exactly why.
In the rest of the world, this is called a discussion, conversation, dialogue, or argument – anything but what's happening here.

I'd suggest you take a look at it first.
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#555
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Option 7 really offended me; it shows disrespect towards my religion!
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#556
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How can I view my posts? (Where is this "profile" located, if not by unsubscribing and simply clicking on it?)
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#557
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Heroes2006, it's located at the top of the website under the title "Control Panel" (below the current theme's title).
 

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#560
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Zybr
Went too far.
Excellent post from the moderator, very appropriate and completely devoid of negativity or personal attacks.