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Offline Werevolka
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To be honest, I only recently found out that a person in timeout leaves when the number of points decreases to an acceptable amount, and these points decrease automatically each week. (Or am I misunderstanding something again?)
Why not simply assign a specific punishment for each specific violation (I mean a ban for one, two, three days, a week, a month, a permanent ban)?
The point system is really not very flexible. For example, if a person has accumulated enough points in the past, they have no incentive to change their ways because they will be banned for even a minor violation.
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Offline Ment
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To be honest, I only recently found out that a player in timeout leaves when the number of points decreases to an acceptable amount, and these points decrease automatically every week. (Or am I misunderstanding something again?)
The idea is that this is not how it works. Points are deducted once, and specifically, one week after being placed in timeout, the number of points is reduced by 5.
 

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Offline Mestear
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Lynx was immediately banned for a minor infraction, but the moderator didn't explain why my posts were considered a violation. That's the problem. The system definitely needs to be upgraded.
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Offline Zybr
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Lynx was immediately banned for a minor infraction, but the moderator didn't explain why my posts were considered a violation.
No one is obligated to explain anything to the user. Read the rules.


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Offline Wistrit
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And moderators should not be guided by personal motives; please read the rules.
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Except the ones we've made
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Offline Arandor
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Even if it's an abuse of power, as in this case, the moderator should be stripped of their privileges.

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Offline Dirty_Player
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Such behavior should result in the moderator being stripped of their privileges.
But who will investigate and determine who is right and who is wrong? The creator? He doesn't need it at all. So, it turns out that someone gets authority and starts assigning points after seeing an insult or, even worse, trolling. :D
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Offline Zybr
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But who will sort it out and determine who is right and who is wrong? The creator? He doesn't even care. That's why someone gets authority and starts assigning points after seeing an insult or, even worse, trolling.
With the current state of affairs, there's always something to criticize.


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Не думай, что будет потом,
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Offline Wistrit
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I think you should also give awards for all similar posts. Why not? There are coordinators; we should send them the links.
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Offline Arandor
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But who will sort it out and determine who is right and who is wrong?
Users can hold a vote. I remember that moderators used to be chosen that way.

Yes, some might see trolling where there is none.

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Offline Dirty_Player
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Given the current state of affairs, there's always something to rate.
Everyone has skeletons in their closet. But that doesn't mean you should give points for everything right away. I believe that points should only be given in cases of truly serious violations and insults. Why give points for trolling or off-topic comments when you can simply delete the post? If there was proper moderation, the system would work normally. I myself have a lot of points for what is essentially arbitrary reasons.

P.S.: I should probably use the official procedure to have them removed :D
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Offline Zybr
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Everyone has skeletons in their closet. But that doesn't mean you should assign points for everything at once. I believe that points should only be assigned in cases of truly serious violations and insults. Why assign points for trolling or off-topic posts when you can simply delete the post? If there was proper moderation, the system would work normally. I myself have a lot of points for what is essentially an unfair reason.
I think it's important not only the "type of violation," but also the situation in which the violation occurred. But points should be assigned for trolling, simply because it is becoming an incredibly common practice. And people feel a sense of impunity.


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Dirty_Player
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Arandor
Users can set up a poll.
We are still choosing the HW2009 skin...

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But trolling should be penalized, simply because it is becoming an extremely common practice. And people feel a sense of impunity.
The main thing is that it should be harmless. It's better to have fun communication than empty silence.
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Offline Zybr
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The main thing is that it should be harmless. It's better to have fun communication than empty silence.
Of course :) Excessive emotional discussion of a hero's game/tournament shouldn't be punished. But this only applies to the third game. And you know better what and how it should be done.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
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Offline Arandor
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We're still choosing the HW2009 skin...
This is different. It's much easier to revoke moderation privileges, believe me.

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